AMD EPYC 7302p+ Supermicro H11SSL-i version 2

[swinokur]

Hi there,
I just wanted to chime in and say that I also purchased from @ebay tugm4470 and was really happy with the purchase process, speed of shipping, and quality of packing!

My system has been sitting on the test bed running Memtest & OCCT for a while, waiting for some other parts to arrive...

One question for y'all -- does your motherboard beeper ... beep? Mine does not. I also tried attaching a speaker to JD1, pins 4-7 and no beeps there either. (btw, 4-7 is silkscreened on the motherboard, which doesn't match the manual!)

 

[sabre66]

Hi I also purchased tugm4470, ended up with 7302 non p. Of coarse all was well shipped and Is running great on my test situation. I do have a question though.....I update the BMC firmware to the latest through IPMI. Can I trust to due the same for the BIOS? Is the file to use for the BIOS the .rom file? if done through the IPMI. BTW I have the 64mb board. Oh I have never heard the beep but then again its in my basement Im getting old and my wife says deaf as well...LOL

Thank You.

 

[RolloZ170]

I do have a question though.....I update the BMC firmware to the latest through IPMI. Can I trust to due the same for the BIOS?

yes

Is the file to use for the BIOS the .rom file?

is a bin or if old non signed can look like "H11SSL9.625"
BIOS size is 32mb.

 

[sabre66]

yes

is a bin or if old non signed can look like "H11SSL9.625"
BIOS size is 32mb.

Ah s*** posted in wrong sub section. Move on nothing to see here.

 

[mattlach]

Hi I also purchased tugm4470, ended up with 7302 non p. Of coarse all was well shipped and Is running great on my test situation. I do have a question though.....I update the BMC firmware to the latest through IPMI. Can I trust to due the same for the BIOS? Is the file to use for the BIOS the .rom file? if done through the IPMI. BTW I have the 64mb board. Oh I have never heard the beep but then again its in my basement Im getting old and my wife says deaf as well...LOL

Thank You.

Not sure what it is you don't trust.

I have flashed the BIOS through the BMC. It uploads it on the next boot attempt if I recall. I vaguely remember having to go back to the BIOS update screen and select it after it was flashed, but I can't remember for sure.

As always it is a good idea to have a UPS when flashing BIOS, just in case, but it appears as if the Supermicro implementation allows for multiple staged BIOS revisions, so if it fails, it is probably not the end of the world, as you can probably just try again.

Edit: (from my BMC)



Yeah, looks like there are 4 different slots for the BIOS. BIOS, BIOS Backup, BIOS Golden and BIOS Staging.

Presumably you can switch between them (or at least move one of the other three to current BIOS) but I am not 100% sure how you do that.

 

[sabre66]

Its not that I dont trust it. In fact just done the bios update and all is well....Just wanted some assurance.

 

[killermojo]

tugm continues to be a fantastic seller. Helped me through an issue, will buy again the next time I need something.

 

[TopQuark]

I had fun reading this thread. My offer to tugm4470 got rejected . I hope I'm not 2 years too late. It looks like the pricing in the US has, finally, caught up with the prices in China. I went all local instead.

 

[vegardx]

I bought a similar system from inwm9492. I went with the Supermicro H11SSL-i and a clock-optimized AMD Epyc 7371. In retrospect I think I should have looked at a threadripper-based system instead. Or at least have gone for the Supermicro H11SSL-NC, as that board supports NVMe-disks on the SAS-controller. You have bifurcation (8x8, 4x4x4x4) on the PCIe-ports, so it's not a huge deal. I put a ASUS Hyper M.2 x16 Card V2 in there and it boots up perfectly fine.

The stuff arrived very quickly, but it took a good two months before I found time to actually power it on, and to my dismay one of the memory sticks didn't show up during POST. I quickly chalked this down to one memory stick being of a different brand (7 Magnolia and 1 SK Hynix), and sent a message on Ebay asking about it. A few hours later I got a message back that they're really sorry, something wrong must have happened and that they've shipped a new memory stick similar to the 7 others. It arrived a couple of days later.

But it still didn't show up during POST. Turns out that the stupid was between the keyboard and the chair, and I have forgotten to remove one of the stand-offs from the case that I put the stuff in, and it shorted two pins on one of the DIMM slots. I'm a little surprised that it actually booted. By pure chance I had plugged the SK Hynix memory stick into that very slot, and concluded a little too quickly that the memory stick was the reason.

The IPMI was configured with a user called ipfsunion, so I'm guessing the systems have been used for some kind of crypto currency mining.

When it comes to updating firmware on the BMC and BIOS make sure that you do things in the right order. I've had tons of issues with this in the past on other Supermicro systems, mostly out of laziness and not reading the fine print on install.txt. There is a jumper you can short to disable the BMC so that you can boot your system and update the BIOS by other means. But if you do it in the right order you can do it all through the BMC, and it's fairly easy to obtain a license key to the BMC so unlock those features.

 

[osrk]

I had fun reading this thread. My offer to tugm4470 got rejected . I hope I'm not 2 years too late. It looks like the pricing in the US has, finally, caught up with the prices in China. I went all local instead.

Yes unfortunately the prices for sp3 boards have gone up a lot. I got a h12ssli locally because it was cheaper but got the cpu from tugm, shipped quickly and reliably.

Idk why all these used epycs are ending up in china but I’ll take it.

 

[vvkvvk]

Yeah I bought local retail board because they were getting close in price, at the moment they're actually cheapr. 550 euro for fully warrantied and European consumer protected item vs. something the SM support will not help due to dubious origins is not that deal atm.

 

[TopQuark]

Yes unfortunately the prices for sp3 boards have gone up a lot. I got a h12ssli locally because it was cheaper but got the cpu from tugm, shipped quickly and reliably.

Idk why all these used epycs are ending up in china but I’ll take it.

CPU's are also very competitive in eBay now from US sources. One can get lucky every now and then. I scored a reasonably priced 7452. Memory is competitively priced too.

Part of the reason why so much Epycs ended in China is a result of the AMD-China joint venture agreement for x86 based CPU's. AMD must have thought it is tough to penetrate the US server market with Intel having a lock on it so they went after the 2nd largest market, China.

 

[wildpig1234]

CPU's are also very competitive in eBay now from US sources. One can get lucky every now and then. I scored a reasonably priced 7452. Memory is competitively priced too.

Part of the reason why so much Epycs ended in China is a result of the AMD-China joint venture agreement for x86 based CPU's. AMD must have thought it is tough to penetrate the US server market with Intel having a lock on it so they went after the 2nd largest market, China.

What kind of "reasonable" price are you talking about for a 7452? How much of a gain is the 7452 over 7551? The last 7551 I got was for around $68 each.

 

[TopQuark]

What kind of "reasonable" price are you talking about for a 7452? How much of a gain is the 7452 over 7551? The last 7551 I got was for around $68 each.

7551 for $68 is an excellent value. For 7452, I would say $300 is reasonable but that depends on what you plan to do with the processor. 7452 performs a bit better on all metrics but whether the difference is good enough is a matter of personal choice. For example, I went for a bit lower TDP in my case because of high electricity cost in my area and I want to add a 30W Nvidia card. I could have gotten a more powerful 7502 at a lower price at bit higher TDP but I decided to cap my TDP.

 

[wildpig1234]

7551 for $68 is an excellent value. For 7452, I would say $300 is reasonable but that depends on what you plan to do with the processor. 7452 performs a bit better on all metrics but whether the difference is good enough is a matter of personal choice. For example, I went for a bit lower TDP in my case because of high electricity cost in my area and I want to add a 30W Nvidia card. I could have gotten a more powerful 7502 at a lower price at bit higher TDP but I decided to cap my TDP.

Yeah, I love the valued 7551 cpu. For under $170, you can get two and get about 70% of the 7702 performance... for much cheaper than 70% of the price of a 7702 cpu....lol..

 

[Joel]

I bought a similar system from inwm9492. I went with the Supermicro H11SSL-i and a clock-optimized AMD Epyc 7371. In retrospect I think I should have looked at a threadripper-based system instead.

Immediately after pulling the trigger on a Rome CPU (7F52) and a new ASRock ROMED8-2T motherboard I thought I should cancel the orders and look at TR-Pro to hyper converge with the main PC. Pricing out a $2600 7965WX plus another $1000 for DDR5 memory cured me of that notion pretty quickly.

 

[wildpig1234]

Immediately after pulling the trigger on a Rome CPU (7F52) and a new ASRock ROMED8-2T motherboard I thought I should cancel the orders and look at TR-Pro to hyper converge with the main PC. Pricing out a $2600 7965WX plus another $1000 for DDR5 memory cured me of that notion pretty quickly.

DDR5 price just too expensive compared to ddr4 right now. I just checked on ebay. DDR5 ECC compared to DDR4 is like day and night difference in price...lol.. It's worse than comparing ddr3 to ddr4 .... lol

 

[RolloZ170]

DDR5 price just too expensive compared to ddr4 right now. I just checked on ebay.

The ebay prices of DDR5 RDIMM shocked me too. in europe they are cheaper new from hardware-dealers.
16GB Kingston DDR5-4800 UDIMM ECC 72 €
16GB Kingston DDR5-4800 RDIMM 82 €

 

[bullerwins]

Hi!

I'm trying to decide the RAM speed to get, 2133 vs 3200... I haven't found any benchmark in server ECC memory, only for gaming. Any recommendation? is it worth to upgrade to 3200?

My use case is:
-VM's with containers: web servers, media servers, vpns, password manager... < I guess for this doesn't matter
-Truenas as a NAS < I guess for this doesn't matter either
-And Machine Learning stuff, mainly loading Large Language Models, for the models that won't fit in VRAM, offloading them to RAM < Not sure about this one

 

[lopgok]

Hi!

I'm trying to decide the RAM speed to get, 2133 vs 3200... I haven't found any benchmark in server ECC memory, only for gaming. Any recommendation? is it worth to upgrade to 3200?

The more critical thing is to use all 8 memory channels. Right now, I have a H11SSLi and a H12SSLi. I only have 4 ddr4 sticks, so I would double my bandwidth by going to 8 sticks.