24x 2.5 600GB sas drives in 5.25 bays CMStormTrooper

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  1. dude05

    dude05 New Member

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    Hi All, I am looking at building a new rig with 24x sas drives 2.5" 15mm 600GB drives inside a CMStormtrooper case. I already know of the Icydock 4x2.5 bay for 15mm drives to slot into the 5.25 bays. Thats 80-100$ a cage.

    I was wondering if there is any known cheaper alternative that works in the same manner? I am ok to change case and hold 24x of em internally. What would be the cheaper alternative?

    My target is i9 7900X on X299 Gaming 9 Board with dual TitanXp(or a Quadro P6000 if i can afford), 1882ix-24 and an Ajakona3G along with the 24x sas drives. What PSU would you recommend?

    thanks for your inputs and suggestions
     
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    how would you connect the HBA to those SAS drivers sit in the bays?
     
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    If you are OK with a rackmount then you can find supermicro SC216 chassis for around 250-300 shipped on eBay.
     
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    I found some cheap HP D2700 chassis for $250 around locally
     
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  5. dude05

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    sorry. forgot to mention, i need to keep it all within the case. so external cage is not an ideal solution. planning to move this around a bit.
     
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  6. T_Minus

    T_Minus Moderator

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    Have you ever moved a 24x SAS HDD chassis? It's nothing you move around a bit, especially if you're going to put in mobo+2x video cards+ power supplies, etc...

    The SC216 gets my vote for the 24xSAS drives go with an expander backplane, and you can easily connect to your main system.
     
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    Icy make an 8x2.5" cage and the quality is very good. I have one myself.
    3 of those would take the entire 24 drives. With so many drives in an array, I wouldn't skimp on the enclosures or you will have a bad time.
     
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    Something worth considering is your cabling. Getting cages or backplanes that either have an expander or at least use sff-8087 will avoid 24 SATA cables which will quickly get unwieldy.
     
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    Worth considering but much more expensive.
     
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    It's a nice cage and all, but they'll only take 7mm drives, OP's drives are 15mm, hence his own reference to icyboxs 4x2.5" cage.
     
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    Ah right, sorry I didn't realise the 8x only took 7mm drives. you are quite right. Cheers for pointing that out.
     
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  12. sfbayzfs

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    If you really want it in a tower case, I like these Supermicro 2x 5.25" -> 8x 2.5" adapters, and the trays are the same as in a SC216 case:
    Supermicro | Products | Accessories | Mobile Racks | CSE-M28SAB-OEM
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    There is a non-OEM version with a fan cage on the back as well.

    The only mod you'll potentially need is to smash down every other set of 5.25" supports like I do with 2/3 of them for 3x5.25" -> 5x 3.5" adapters

    They made a SAS expander version, but it was SAS1, so bandwidth limited, and no >2TB drives, stick with the direct connect, or run your own SAS expander.
     
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  13. dude05

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    nope. only had the 24bay supermicro chasis for 3.5 drives. how heavy can it be? i see ~20kg in ebay listings
     
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    Well... each drive weighs 1.5lbs * 24 = 36lbs in HDD alone.

    SC216BA-R920LPB | 2U | Chassis | Products | Super Micro Computer, Inc.

    Specs state it weighs 53lbs.

    So, yes, I think 53lbs + 36lbs + cables/adapters/etc (likely 2-5lbs more) + rail weight.
    So lets just say the 2U, tiny case with power supplies, drives, cables, and jbod board will weigh in around 95lbs. Now, with a motherboard + video cards + ssd for boot/os you're EASILY at 100lbs+

    That's not portable :) at all by any stretch of imagination ;)
     
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    Thankyou. This seems much better than icydock cages. Precisely what i was hoping for. just one clarification - this can hold the 15mm thick 2.5 drives right? or only thin 10mm ones?


    thanks again
     
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    Yes, all Supermicro 2.5" bays I have ever seen are definitely compatible with 15mm thick drives since most SAS 2.5" spinners are 15mm thick.

    If you shop around, you can get the CSE-M28SAB 8-drive adapter for about $150+shipping from a number of resellers.

    BTW, I do have a 1x 5.25" to 4x 2.5" IcyDock bay adapter - the construction is fairly solid, and it does at least 12.5mm drives if not 15mm, I will check when I find it next. I will probably never use it though since I want to stay compatible with my Supermicro trays...
     
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    Yes, it looks like it is only meant for proprietary mounting in Intel 2U servers. but I took a look at the spec sheet, and it seems to be a direct connect model from 2014 meant for use the the Intel SAS2 expanders if you want expander instead of direct.

    I checked because the Intel 4x and 6x 3.5" bay adapters often seem to contain older SAS1 expander backplanes, some models of which seem to use only 2 SATA cables to attach their 3G expander back to the controller, although I haven't used them myself to confirm. Those models often have 3GEXP in their model numbers, but perhaps not always, and I expect they would be to be avoided for potential large drive compatibility and bandwidth reasons.
     
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