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jack16v

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Hi guys and happy holiday....i've a problem, the telecom bring to my home internet with optical fiber 10Gbps....how i can use all this speed with my mobo?I've onlu 2 pcie 3.0x1......usb 3.0 gen 1......and one m.2 pcie gen3x4 used with for ssd.....if i don't understand bad pcie 3.0x1 can manage only 0,985GB/s .......(font https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express)....help
 

Tech Junky

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There's a Gen 4 10ge nic that fits a x1 slot but, either way you need to upgrade your system for 10ge.
 

jack16v

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What do you meaning?upgrade the mobo?1703625222444.png



in this table I can't understand what 8.0 GT/s means in transfer rate per lane and what...x1=0.985 GB/sin pcie 3.0
Can Ethernet if it is 10 Gbps pass on a x1 lane? It's not a bottleneck?
 

Exhaust8890

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Theoretically, if my math is correct, you'll need at least PCI-E 2.0 x4 or PCI-E 3.0 x2 to FULLY utilize 10Gb. 10Gb = 1.25GB/s
 
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jei

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I'm getting crap speeds on 10GBASE-T no matter which Gen is in use. If you're getting fibre, do yourself a favor and keep it as light and don't convert to copper (atleast 10GBASE-T).
 

MrGuvernment

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I'm getting crap speeds on 10GBASE-T no matter which Gen is in use. If you're getting fibre, do yourself a favor and keep it as light and don't convert to copper (atleast 10GBASE-T).
Had to use 10Base myself and no issues while doing basement renos...off a Brocade ICX using fs.com as the source for adapters.

Just note OP - you wont saturate 10Gbps from likely any internet source. and you should be putting that 10Gbps link into a firewall / router not direct to your computer connected direct to the internet.
 

jei

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Had to use 10Base myself and no issues while doing basement renos...off a Brocade ICX using fs.com as the source for adapters.

Just note OP - you wont saturate 10Gbps from likely any internet source. and you should be putting that 10Gbps link into a firewall / router not direct to your computer connected direct to the internet.
Have you been able to get speeds that would saturate 0.985GB/s link? With 20% overhead that would be 750-800MB/s in real world.

And good point about the firewall. Routing 10Gb is no task for old HW.
 

jack16v

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Have you been able to get speeds that would saturate 0.985GB/s link? With 20% overhead that would be 750-800MB/s in real world.

And good point about the firewall. Routing 10Gb is no task for old HW.
My goal for the Moment Is that....saturate 0.985GB/s on the X1 lane that Is very close to 1,25Gb considering that the Fiber Will bring me only 8gb real.....but my question is, if a pcie card like Asus Xg-c100c_v2, that is a 4x card, can work on a X1 lane slot, without divide his teorical 10gb band for 4.....otherwise why Asus build that card with 4x socket?
 
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Hello jack16v,
please clarify the difference between gb (gigabits) and GB (gigabytes) :)
it seems you have some misunderstanding on that.
Regarding saturation on 0.985GB/s on the X1 lane - the speed you are more likely to see with x1 PCIe 3.0 lane is around 6-7Gbps (gigabits per sec) = 650-700MB/s.
 
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jack16v

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Ciao jack16v,
si prega di chiarire la differenza tra gb (gigabit) e GB (gigabyte):)
sembra che tu abbia qualche malinteso a riguardo.
Per quanto riguarda la saturazione su 0,985 GB/s sulla corsia X1, la velocità che è più probabile vedere con la corsia x1 PCIe 3.0 è di circa 6-7 Gbps (gigabit al secondo) = 650-700 MB/s.
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Yes i know the difference between gigabit and gigabyte but my question is of with a 4x pcie card mounted on a X1 slot, the card use all the band (0,985 GB/s)
 

jack16v

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Yes i know the difference between gigabit and gigabyte but my question is of with a 4x pcie card mounted on a X1 slot, the card use all the band (0,985 GB/s)
 

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The card will use whatever is available up to rated speed. You can stick a x16 card in a x1 slot as long as it physically fits, but you will be limited to x1 bandwidth.

Back in the GPU mining days, people would use super basic (and cheap) PCIe extenders to mount 6-8x x16 GPUs with only x1 bandwidth each. This wasn't a problem for crypto mining, since it had very low bandwidth requirements MB <--> GPU.

If you put your 10G adapter in a x1 slot, your adapter will be limited to 0.985GB/s of bandwidth. Subtract off a bit for PCIe overhead (??? MB/s) and that's what's left for your internet. I'd guess you'll be left with somewhere in the range of 600-700MB/s. Someone who knows more than me can provide a more exact answer.
 

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The card will use whatever is available up to rated speed. You can stick a x16 card in a x1 slot as long as it physically fits, but you will be limited to x1 bandwidth.

Back in the GPU mining days, people would use super basic (and cheap) PCIe extenders to mount 6-8x x16 GPUs with only x1 bandwidth each. This wasn't a problem for crypto mining, since it had very low bandwidth requirements MB <--> GPU.

If you put your 10G adapter in a x1 slot, your adapter will be limited to 0.985GB/s of bandwidth. Subtract off a bit for PCIe overhead (??? MB/s) and that's what's left for your internet. I'd guess you'll be left with somewhere in the range of 600-700MB/s. Someone who knows more than me can provide a more exact answer.
Yes, exactly, around 600-700MB/s which is around 5-6Gbps. That's my experience as well.
 

jack16v

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Ok so it's perfect for me because i bought a Asus card mentioned up ....for only 60 euro......One day i'll buy a new motherboard for the Moment It's perfect......that meaning when the card Is mounted on a X2 slot divide the same load for 2.....on x4 for 4 etc? I thik that Is for limitate the situation of the lane?!
 

jei

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I'm getting crap speeds on 10GBASE-T no matter which Gen is in use. If you're getting fibre, do yourself a favor and keep it as light and don't convert to copper (atleast 10GBASE-T).
I'll have to retract this. Today I managed to get "wire speed", 1.1GB/s over samba. Had to buy some expensive NIC/modules but it works even thru the house (random CAT6). Fiber is still cheaper.

What worked was a combination of buffer tuning on both ends and Chelsio T580-LP-CR (40G)-> ICX7450 + FS.COM latest 10G 100m module (10G)-> Intel X710-T2L.