1.5TB Intel P4800X U.2 for 400$
Will post SMART data when I receive mine.
EDIT: Marked deal as expired.
Will post SMART data when I receive mine.
EDIT: Marked deal as expired.
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There was a $20 off coupon on the Newegg drive last week, so it does go on sale. I don’t think this eBay drive is a good deal.Nice find!
Note, listing says $10 shipping for me to CA.
Also, note 905p is $400 new on Newegg right now: Intel Optane 905P Series 1.5TB, 2.5" x 15mm, U.2, PCIe 3.0 x4, 3D XPoint Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDPE21D015TA01 - Newegg.com Drive specs list different endurance ratings, but afaik hardware is rumored to be the same under the hood.
I have seen several 905p drives with degraded health after really not very many writes, a small p4800x would, for example, be barely exercised at 200TB, but this screenshot from a current ebay listing suggests that there really is a hardware difference.Drive specs list different endurance ratings, but afaik hardware is rumored to be the same under the hood.
Was it "Sold & Shipped By Newegg"? If so, and it still didn't come in retail packaging, that seems... fishy!?Regarding the 905P 1.5TB NewEgg deal, the drive I bought did not come in retail packaging, and the serial number did not register on Intel's website.
I also bought 2 960gb 905P drives also from NewEgg 2 years ago, both of those have valid warranties on Intel's site and came in retail packaging.
Yep, it was Sold & Shipped by NewEgg.Was it "Sold & Shipped By Newegg"? If so, and it still didn't come in retail packaging, that seems... fishy!?
I agree there is definitely a hardware difference (specs show 10DWPD for the 905P and 30DWPD for the P4800X), but HDSentinel uses the same algorithm for SSDs as it does for spinning disks. So, using even 1% of spare space can drop a drive from 80%+ on health down to less than 30% health, if you are using the "strict (for servers)" setting.I have seen several 905p drives with degraded health after really not very many writes, a small p4800x would, for example, be barely exercised at 200TB, but this screenshot from a current ebay listing suggests that there really is a hardware difference.
I've never used anything but smartctl, so I assumed this windows util showed the same SMART lifetime attribute, good to know it just comes up with something basically random instead. The seller has since added a screenshot from smartctl that shows the drive is perfectly fine, so that makes me feel better about the 905p series: Intel Optane SSD 905P 960GB SSDPED1D960GAY PCIE NVME **READ** | eBay (not that I think this is a great price.)So, using even 1% of spare space can drop a drive from 80%+ on health down to less than 30% health, if you are using the "strict (for servers)" setting.
I posted at their forum, and I'm hoping they listen and modify the algorithm for SSDs. For hard drives, HDSentinel is a much better indicator than smartctl, because it takes into account multiple SMART counters and turns them into much more human-readable information.I've never used anything but smartctl, so I assumed this windows util showed the same SMART lifetime attribute, good to know it just comes up with something basically random instead
mint@mint:~$ sudo smartctl --all /dev/nvme3
smartctl 7.2 2020-12-30 r5155 [x86_64-linux-5.15.0-76-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-20, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Number: 0X91751190053310INT00P5800X0001T61000000
Serial Number: REDACTED
Firmware Version: NQ00
PCI Vendor ID: 0x8086
PCI Vendor Subsystem ID: 0x1275
IEEE OUI Identifier: 0x5cd2e4
Total NVM Capacity: 1,600,321,314,816 [1.60 TB]
Unallocated NVM Capacity: 0
Controller ID: 0
NVMe Version: 1.3
Number of Namespaces: 128
Local Time is: Thu Mar 7 03:07:33 2024 UTC
Firmware Updates (0x18): 4 Slots, no Reset required
Optional Admin Commands (0x001e): Format Frmw_DL NS_Mngmt Self_Test
Optional NVM Commands (0x004e): Wr_Unc DS_Mngmt Wr_Zero Timestmp
Log Page Attributes (0x1e): Cmd_Eff_Lg Ext_Get_Lg Telmtry_Lg Pers_Ev_Lg
Maximum Data Transfer Size: 32 Pages
Warning Comp. Temp. Threshold: 70 Celsius
Critical Comp. Temp. Threshold: 80 Celsius
Supported Power States
St Op Max Active Idle RL RT WL WT Ent_Lat Ex_Lat
0 + 22.00W - - 0 0 0 0 0 0
1 + 20.00W - - 0 1 0 1 0 0
2 + 18.00W - - 0 2 0 2 0 0
=== START OF SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
SMART/Health Information (NVMe Log 0x02)
Critical Warning: 0x00
Temperature: 23 Celsius
Available Spare: 75%
Available Spare Threshold: 0%
Percentage Used: 0%
Data Units Read: 303,055,113 [155 TB]
Data Units Written: 14,274,089 [7.30 TB]
Host Read Commands: 1,328,685,698
Host Write Commands: 317,187,650
Controller Busy Time: 515
Power Cycles: 51
Power On Hours: 9,783
Unsafe Shutdowns: 41
Media and Data Integrity Errors: 0
Error Information Log Entries: 0
Warning Comp. Temperature Time: 0
Critical Comp. Temperature Time: 0
Error Information (NVMe Log 0x01, 16 of 256 entries)
No Errors Logged
mint@mint:~$ sudo nvme id-ns -H /dev/nvme3n1
NVME Identify Namespace 1:
LBA Format 0 : Metadata Size: 0 bytes - Data Size: 512 bytes - Relative Performance: 0x2 Good (in use)
LBA Format 1 : Metadata Size: 8 bytes - Data Size: 512 bytes - Relative Performance: 0x2 Good
LBA Format 2 : Metadata Size: 0 bytes - Data Size: 4096 bytes - Relative Performance: 0x2 Good
LBA Format 3 : Metadata Size: 8 bytes - Data Size: 4096 bytes - Relative Performance: 0x2 Good
LBA Format 4 : Metadata Size: 64 bytes - Data Size: 4096 bytes - Relative Performance: 0x2 Good
optane also has rather pathetic power-off data retention even by SSD standards, it's not a problem for server use at all but I've wondered what would happen with consumers who pull a drive and leave it on a shelf for a year or two. That might well show up as bad blocks too.That said, the drives in your screenshot have about 200 total drive writes over 3 years, which is 0.18DWPD. That's barely consumer level endurance. Are we sure those are real 905P drives?
❯ smartctl -a /dev/disk7
smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [Darwin 23.4.0 x86_64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Number: 0X91751190053310INT00P5800X0001T61000000
Serial Number: REDACTED
Firmware Version: NQ00
PCI Vendor ID: 0x8086
PCI Vendor Subsystem ID: 0x1275
IEEE OUI Identifier: 0x5cd2e4
Total NVM Capacity: 1,600,321,314,816 [1.60 TB]
Unallocated NVM Capacity: 0
Controller ID: 0
NVMe Version: 1.3
Number of Namespaces: 128
Local Time is: Sat Apr 6 13:18:27 2024 MDT
Firmware Updates (0x18): 4 Slots, no Reset required
Optional Admin Commands (0x001e): Format Frmw_DL NS_Mngmt Self_Test
Optional NVM Commands (0x004e): Wr_Unc DS_Mngmt Wr_Zero Timestmp
Log Page Attributes (0x1e): Cmd_Eff_Lg Ext_Get_Lg Telmtry_Lg Pers_Ev_Lg
Maximum Data Transfer Size: 32 Pages
Warning Comp. Temp. Threshold: 70 Celsius
Critical Comp. Temp. Threshold: 80 Celsius
Supported Power States
St Op Max Active Idle RL RT WL WT Ent_Lat Ex_Lat
0 + 22.00W - - 0 0 0 0 0 0
1 + 20.00W - - 0 1 0 1 0 0
2 + 18.00W - - 0 2 0 2 0 0
=== START OF SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
SMART/Health Information (NVMe Log 0x02)
Critical Warning: 0x00
Temperature: 42 Celsius
Available Spare: 100%
Available Spare Threshold: 0%
Percentage Used: 0%
Data Units Read: 311,804,595 [159 TB]
Data Units Written: 9,403,204 [4.81 TB]
Host Read Commands: 1,240,823,557
Host Write Commands: 202,631,782
Controller Busy Time: 638
Power Cycles: 57
Power On Hours: 12,112
Unsafe Shutdowns: 39
Media and Data Integrity Errors: 0
Error Information Log Entries: 0
Warning Comp. Temperature Time: 0
Critical Comp. Temperature Time: 0
Error Information (NVMe Log 0x01, 16 of 256 entries)
No Errors Logged
Self-test Log (NVMe Log 0x06)
Self-test status: No self-test in progress
No Self-tests Logged