Hello to all,
I have been following the abovementioned processor introductions quite closely.
I have an ageing (july 2009) HP Z800 2xXeon W5580. Upgrades 48Gb RAM / 1TB SSD /USB 3.0/ Quadro K5000 with dual 4k 32" screens. I use CAD CAM FEA and specific acoustic BEM sofware. I have never kept a workstation for so long.
On the same week as Intel released a new generation of Xeons or anew generation of prosumer processors there was a flurry of product introductions - Z800=>Z820=>Z840 at HP and similar at Dell, Lenovo.
This is the first time that I have had to specifically search if workstations or even simple desktop machines with i9 79**X were available. Nothing at HP, Dell, Lenovo, no marketing, no reviews of finished workstation products. No HP Z860 or Z660 no Dell 7920 or 5820.
Even the small specialists like Microway or Puget Systems talk and bench but do not offer anything.
I have never seen this before, I understand Threadripper and Epyc are very new and unavailable, I understand i9-79**X was a late decision in reaction to AMD but what I find unbelievable is the absence of workstations with Gold/Silver/Platinum when the processor is supposed to have started delivering since a year to large customers and has beeen planned and announced years in advance (E5-****v5 before the name change).
The CAD CAM CAE FEA CFD operators have not gone to compute cloud datacenters in great numbers, most still run these and Video Sound editing on workstations.
I smell a rat specific to workstation (i.e. non server) use (heat? well that's known on i9-79**X but the enormous new Xeon sockets seem better fitted for heat dissipation). In the past I would have attempted a "build" but if neither the big boys nor the small custom builders do it this is not very encouraging.
Eric
I have been following the abovementioned processor introductions quite closely.
I have an ageing (july 2009) HP Z800 2xXeon W5580. Upgrades 48Gb RAM / 1TB SSD /USB 3.0/ Quadro K5000 with dual 4k 32" screens. I use CAD CAM FEA and specific acoustic BEM sofware. I have never kept a workstation for so long.
On the same week as Intel released a new generation of Xeons or anew generation of prosumer processors there was a flurry of product introductions - Z800=>Z820=>Z840 at HP and similar at Dell, Lenovo.
This is the first time that I have had to specifically search if workstations or even simple desktop machines with i9 79**X were available. Nothing at HP, Dell, Lenovo, no marketing, no reviews of finished workstation products. No HP Z860 or Z660 no Dell 7920 or 5820.
Even the small specialists like Microway or Puget Systems talk and bench but do not offer anything.
I have never seen this before, I understand Threadripper and Epyc are very new and unavailable, I understand i9-79**X was a late decision in reaction to AMD but what I find unbelievable is the absence of workstations with Gold/Silver/Platinum when the processor is supposed to have started delivering since a year to large customers and has beeen planned and announced years in advance (E5-****v5 before the name change).
The CAD CAM CAE FEA CFD operators have not gone to compute cloud datacenters in great numbers, most still run these and Video Sound editing on workstations.
I smell a rat specific to workstation (i.e. non server) use (heat? well that's known on i9-79**X but the enormous new Xeon sockets seem better fitted for heat dissipation). In the past I would have attempted a "build" but if neither the big boys nor the small custom builders do it this is not very encouraging.
Eric