I still think it's a waste of money, but if it makes you happy it's money well spent for you.You're the one who said it was a waste of money.
I still think it's a waste of money, but if it makes you happy it's money well spent for you.You're the one who said it was a waste of money.
The cost of the memory isn't the question, the question is whether it's necessary to spend more money on a complete system for a router for a house because ECC is required for that purpose and any other limitations in the system should be disregarded because it has ECC. Obviously for some it's important, but I don't think it's at all realistic to say that it's essential.Except ECC is not really a premium at all and if you choose a d-1508 which is similar to i3 in performance and you get 10g Intel networking finding ddr4 ECC is easy especially for small modules.
I would say that the low power is definitely less strict than cost and performance, though I'd like to keep power down as much as I can with those other two factors in place. If that makes sense. I'd also like it to be quiet of possible, since I am planning to run it in the living room. However, if something was good enough in a shallow depth 1U, I could instead rack it in a cabinet I gave in the office, it I would still want something relatively quiet. Did you have any specific models in mind that would fit this description?If it's strict ultra low power, the netgate gear is hard to beat. Otherwise you can find some deals on used 1U shallow depth boxes that would work just as well.
The catch on the bay trails is that Intel turned off the aes-ni to segment the market. It's a fine choice unless you want to do crypto/vpn. I don't understand why so many vendors are still selling those and didn't update to braswell.JBC200F9N-E4IN :: HBJC200F9N-E4IN :: Intel Celeron Bay Trail N2930 with Daughter Board Gen2 Barebone :: JETWAY COMPUTER CORP.
Can be had for about $270 + cost of ram + boot media. Uses a 60w external power brick. That's what I have and it's silent. They have a rack mount version if that's what you prefer.
That is not entirely true. Higher core count parts were delayed again recently. Also, I/O is going to be a different model than we see on Avoton/ Rangeley, E5 V4, E3, and Xeon D.If anything I would be waiting till denverton now, the first c3000 chip has landed, the rest can't be far behind. (10 x SATA will also make a good storage platform for a lot of people)
Thanks. I'm putting together a couple build lists on pcpartpicker, including this one,so I can compare price and make a final decision.This is the most promising mitx board I've seen, but I haven't tried it: ASRock > H270M-ITX/ac Has m.2 (sata or nvme), pcie3 x16 slot, i219 + i211 nics, and 6x sata3 for about $100.
The CPU options start at about $40 for a G3930 and you can can spend $20 more at a time as you work your way up the range.
Should be an M (four lanes) but B+M will work also. NVMe is faster, but that might not matter much unless you're hitting the disk. The performance and size requirements depend on what you're using it for; basically anything will be enough for pfsense. I wouldn't advise buying something huge with the thought that you'll use more later, the storage will only get cheaper and it's easy to add. If you think you might want to add more later I'd be inclined to start with a small 2.5 inch SATA and save the nvme slot for a bigger/faster drive in the future.On pcpartpicker, for storage, they list M.2 (M) and M.2 (B+M). I'm not sure which one I should be selecting here. Or should I be getting regular SSD instead? Or NVME? Or a combo? And what size disks should I be getting if I want to have enough space to run any and all apps I choose? I am a bit hazy on storage.
Thank you very much.Should be an M (four lanes) but B+M will work also. NVMe is faster, but that might not matter much unless you're hitting the disk. The performance and size requirements depend on what you're using it for; basically anything will be enough for pfsense. I wouldn't advise buying something huge with the thought that you'll use more later, the storage will only get cheaper and it's easy to add. If you think you might want to add more later I'd be inclined to start with a small 2.5 inch SATA and save the nvme slot for a bigger/faster drive in the future.
When will it be published? I'm waiting to decide on a pfSense router build until the new C3000 series is available before going for Xeon-D/Pentium-DThat is not entirely true. Higher core count parts were delayed again recently. Also, I/O is going to be a different model than we see on Avoton/ Rangeley, E5 V4, E3, and Xeon D.
I have a main site piece ready to go on it. Just have to hit publish.
Decent for what? A D series Xeon would be great if you wanted a 10 gig firewall, I guess? Even the system the OP is putting together is overkill for a firewall, but he said he wanted to be able to run anything he might come up with on it. For just firewalling up to the hundreds of megabits/s it's hard to beat the APU2 platform for about $150. If you want gigabit VPN then you're gonna spend more. But in general it seems like a lot of people are over-specing their firewalls.It seems that no matter what I go with, I'm looking at a minimum of $400 for a dedicated pfSense build, if I want to have something decent.
I am planning for this week. But the availability will lag announcements and STH reviews of chips.When will it be published? I'm waiting to decide on a pfSense router build until the new C3000 series is available before going for Xeon-D/Pentium-D
Thank you. The Xeon D wouldn't just be for firewall. It would be for the purpose of running a whole virtual environment in my home, which could include a pfsense vm.Decent for what? A D series Xeon would be great if you wanted a 10 gig firewall, I guess? Even the system the OP is putting together is overkill for a firewall, but he said he wanted to be able to run anything he might come up with on it. For just firewalling up to the hundreds of megabits/s it's hard to beat the APU2 platform for about $150. If you want gigabit VPN then you're gonna spend more. But in general it seems like a lot of people are over-specing their firewalls.
These are your picks for my needs? We're talking about a dedicated machine here or for what I was talking about for a home virtual host to replace my Dell R715, which I would run a pfsense vm on?I am planning for this week. But the availability will lag announcements and STH reviews of chips.
D1508, D-1518, C2758 or C2558 are my current picks.