It can be. If you left the standoff in place in the chassis and put the motherboard over the top of it then yes. short circuit is likely. Good practice to remove standoffs and only place those that fit the mounting holes to insure that you did not accidentally put the motherboard on top of a standoff without a corresponding motherboard mounting hole.Isn't it risky for a short circuit
Hi, that's why I asked. Because the standoffs in this case are not removable so I was wondering how other guys remove them. I was thinking about drilling it out but since no one mentions anything about removing maybe they didn't or they insulate ...It can be. If you left the standoff in place in the chassis and put the motherboard over the top of it then yes. short circuit is likely. Good practice to remove standoffs and only place those that fit the mounting holes to insure that you did not accidentally put the motherboard on top of a standoff without a corresponding motherboard mounting hole.
Just to let anyone with the same problem know, I used a drill to drill out the standoff. And then with some pliers removed the remainsHi, that's why I asked. Because the standoffs in this case are not removable so I was wondering how other guys remove them. I was thinking about drilling it out but since no one mentions anything about removing maybe they didn't or they insulate ...
|Motherboard||Gigabyte W480M Vision W (LGA 1200)|
|CPU||Intel Xeon 1.9GHz W1290T (10C/20T)|
|CPU Cooler||Noctua NH-L9i|
|RAM||16GB DDR4 ECC SDRAM|
|GPU||not needed right now with Intel QuickSync|
|PSU||Enhance 7660B 600W (Platinum) or FSP Flex GURU 500W (Gold)|
|HDDs||8x 16TB WD Easystore|
|M.2 Drive #1||1TB NVMe 4.0 M.2 SSD (Samsung 980 Pro)|
|M.2 Drive #2||1TB NVMe 4.0 M.2 SSD (Sabrent Rocket)|
|HBA Card||Not needed with selected mobo|
|Other||Noctua NF-S12A PWM Fans (2x)|
|Other||Noctua NF-A4x10 (PSU Fan Replacement)|
|Other||PCI-E Riser Cable (10GBe card in future)|
|Other||Miscellaneous Cables / Extenders?|
Remote access when all else fails is certainly one of the things IPMI can do for you, though it depends on why the server crashed - if it's a hung Windows or other OS problem than yes, assuming you had IPMI set up correctly you could log in and see it what's going on, reset power, possibly even fix the problem via diagnostics - it gives you a remote terminal in to the system. If the system doesn't have power or hardware failed obviously there's not much to be done.I considered the 804 but it simple is too big for me (13.5" x 12.1" x 15.3" vs. the 810A is 12.4" x 10.8" x 7.8"). If I had the space, I probably wouldn't have messed around with the SFF but alas I can't move out of my apartment so I need something that fits with my restrictions. I don't think there is any case that comes anywhere near as small for at least 8 bays + mATX as the U-NAS chassis.
I haven't ever used IPMI and wasn't sure how much I would need that feature (but certainly is a good feature of the Asrock W480D4U). I'm currently facing a big issue with my existing server (Windows), it crashed in a city 1000 miles away so I have no way to restart it currently. Is that what IPMI solves for? I thought having unRAID running would somewhat solve for any "container / docker / windows VM" crashes, and I would also have a Amazon Alexa plug to remote shut on / off for future uses (i.e. force a reboot on power loss).
That is really unfortunate on the Gigabyte...I really like that motherboard given the 2.5GBe ethernet. The ASRock W480D4U seems to not have any audio ports as well, and I don't want to buy a motherboard that has to attach a separate PCI audio card since i'll likely also have this hooked up to my TV.
I'd consider IPMI as one of those things I never thought was worth the substantial extra costs involved, now I consider it essential - even for the little server sitting two feet away from me, it's so much more convenient to log in to the IPMI interface to keep an eye on bootup or rejiggle the BIOS than schlepping around with a monitor and a VGA cable.I haven't ever used IPMI and wasn't sure how much I would need that feature (but certainly is a good feature of the Asrock W480D4U). I'm currently facing a big issue with my existing server (Windows), it crashed in a city 1000 miles away so I have no way to restart it currently. Is that what IPMI solves for?
Ah I wasn't aware that onboard audio is totally irrelevant if using HDMI (yes will be connected via HDMI to AV receiver which then connects to my 4K TV), that solves my only other issue with the Asrock board away from needing a separate PCI 10G card. I agree it will be expensive between needing to pay $300 for the Asrock W480D4U, $215 for the 7660B and $250 for the chassis itself, but luckily I haven't spent any money on myself this year so I'm treating it as a birthday gift / christmas gift / you worked hard during COVID so buy something nice for yourself.Why do you care about onboard audio if you are hooking it up to a TV? You'd want to send audio over HDMI, usually, unless you have some unusual requirement or we're talking about a really old TV.
Finally, I hear you on the size, though again I recommend looking at the overall tradeoff picture. You have to make quite a few concessions in your build with that smaller case + it costs more (the case and power supply each are more than an 804 and ATX PS by a hundreds of dollars), and the 804 isn't that much bigger (biggest difference is depth) - maybe there's somewhere else you can fit it? Worth thinking about anyway.
I'm coming from Windows so I'm a bit unfamiliar with all this. I have an Nvidia Shield connected to my AV receiver / 4K TV so I don't imagine connecting super often to display, but is there literally no way besides adding a GPU to get a video out from the server if using QuickSync as part of my Plex docker? If relevant - I'm not going to immediately move over to a full docker build, I'll probably start off with a Windows VM that pulls my existing 60TB library contained on StableBits Drivepool then slowly build out a full uNRAID solution until I feel comfortable ditching Windows.Also - you mentioned leveraging Quicksync, I assume for transcoding (Plex, etc.)? If you do that via the P630 onboard the Xeon you won't be able to also use it for display purposes (at least not if you are passing it through to a container via Unraid/etc.)
haha no worries, I actually was so set on ordering the Node 804 in September until I found this little U-NAS case on Reddit and had to double check the dimensions as I didn't believe a 8 bay case was available with < 8" depth (my TV stand is only 12" deep). I get it, for all things practical it makes sense to go a little bigger (and probably it would've made sense from UNAS' perspective to make the 810A even slightly bigger).If you pass a hardware device through to a VM or container it's usually exclusive, particularly with video cards. Technically the iGPU (P630) on that Xeon isn't a "video card" but from a hardware point of view it is. If for example you pass through Intel Quicksync to Plex (or Emby, or whatever) whether it's running in a VM or a docker container you'll lose use of that video output for other things.
If you are running Unraid on the box you don't need a video output, really, since Unraid is managed through a web console you can access with something else (even mobile). The only thing you'd need an output for is to troubleshoot, and if you get the board with IPMI you'll have that covered since you can get console access over the network too. You can mount USB drives, iso, etc. and do remote installs even; people do it all the time.
If you have a Shield then you have the client part settled, you don't also need to hook the server up to your TV. Use it as a NAS/Plex (or whatever) server and the Shield as a client. Tons of folks do that, works great.
Frankly this also removes the need to have this server in your TV cabinet which brings us back to...reconsidering the case As for suitcase portability, I personally wouldn't be comfortable hauling around even the 810a as-is, at the very least you should remove the drives and pack them separate, also you'll want to make sure things like CPU coolers/etc are secure in the case. I know people haul these things around but if you are talking about taking it on a plane/long ride a few times a year my point is neither solution is simple to port.
With the Node you can remove both drive cages (4 each) with a thumbscrew and bubble-wrap them, that's what I did when I moved houses a while back. I'll shut up about the Node now though because I'm starting to sound like a salesperson from Fractal and I'm not
|UNAS 810A||TVS-h1288X||TVS-h1688X||TVS-872N/XT||Node 804||TM D5-300c|
|H1688X vs 1288X||872XT vs. H1288X|
|Length vs. 810A||2.16||2.16||0.56||1.14||(3.46)||–||1.60|
|Width vs. 810A||1.76||1.76||0.18||4.49||(1.97)||–||1.58|
|Height vs. 810A||1.48||4.20||(0.35)||4.33||(2.40)||2.72||1.83|
|Volume (in3) vs. 810A||–||652.41||1,151.01||15.95||1,465.57||(617.49)||498.60||636.46|