VRM modify ICC_MAX to run high TDC OEM cpu

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Mion

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Hello friends.
I try to fix status in BMC(PROCHOT issue) with 8175m on x11dpi-n and forget to create backup files for mp2955a, mp2956a, mp2958a.
Can anyone help with XLSX for mps gui with reference value?
Thanks for attention.
 

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RolloZ170

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I try to fix status in BMC(PROCHOT issue) with 8175m on x11dpi-n and forget to create backup files for mp2955a, mp2956a, mp2958a.
Can anyone help with xml with reference value?
sorry, we only change ICC_MAX of MP2955A (std.def. E4h(228), new FFh(255) )
 

BIOS-iEngineer

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Hello!
I used a non-standard method, fully adapted the latest BIOS version for the OEM CPU and some things else.
For the experiment I have Supermicro X11SPi-TF, Xeon Gold 6268CL, Xeon Platinum 8272CL, Xeon Platinum 8124M (240W TDP, work with VRM mod firmware + BIOS), Xeon Gold 6150., I did not use the outdated BIOS, at the moment when I started working I had BIOS 4.3, TDC 228A. The TDC 228A to 255A unlocking was done with the help of additional .efi with added BIOS menu item and the parameters by default TDC 255A. The Resizable BAR functionality was also added, if did not pay attention to the answers of Supermicro's "technical specialists" - "here is not supported at all". Adding RAM timing settings added an additional 15% of the performance with minimal adjustment. I also created a TPM2.0 SPI type 10 pin, specifically for this board, I used SLB9672 FW:16.13, because Supermicro didn't this, or I found in sale outdated TPM World versions for a more 100€ price or 30€ for crooked Chinese fakes with Chinese firmware. In this way I got SHA-1, SHA-256, SHA-384, TXT Support. This BIOS has transformed a so bad, so slow routine PC into a beautiful workstation in a wonderful way!


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you set current limit to 255A, but thats no the point.
"the guy" uses a special BIOS with tweaked Intel SPS.
This guy used what I gave him for his 6268CL and I did not modify his SPS and it requires TDC-255A, if the TDC-228A limit is left the 6268CL will not work. You can remove the TDC limit check, then the OEM CPU will work, but their performance will remain poor. I currently have several OEM CPUs coming that will also require TDC-255A.
I was recently scammed by eBay, the seller sent a damaged Platinum 8259CL (210W) instead of the one advertised as new, and the test failed. During the disassembly of these CPUs, the Chinese use screwdrivers to remove the heatsink and they damaged the CPU PCB, this CPU had to be returned.
But I can assure you that the ability to switch TDC in the BIOS is a very useful option, which allows you to use almost all LGA-3647 compatible CPU. Because disabling TDC checking does not solve the problem.
 
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RolloZ170

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This guy used what I gave him for his 6268CL and I did not modify his SPS and it requires TDC-255A, if the TDC-228A limit is left the 6268CL will not work. You can remove the TDC limit check, then the OEM CPU will work, but their performance will remain poor. I currently have several OEM CPUs coming that will also require TDC-255A.
understand...
well i have seen weird things with 6268CL and co.
the newer the BIOS is, the less the performance was. maybe SM applied a lower max. current.
 
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Mion

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understand...
well i have seen weird things with 6268CL and co.
the newer the BIOS is, the less the performance was. maybe SM applied a lower max. current.
Maybe not a bios, just new microcode from Intel. I upgrade the microcode for p-8124 3stepping and can't see the trouble with performance between 2018 and 2023 version on my x11dpi-n. But my current on vrm(mp2955a) for PL1 250A(50a per phase), last bios 4.3. For less current indication with tdp limit, maybe need shunt mod)
on vrm max PL2(TDC)=PL1+20%
on cpu TDP=PL1 I'm not remember, maybe pl2=pl1+25% in stock bios. You can check current limit override setting , pl2 can be 0~25%
165+25%=205w and can be lower, RAPL setting i never touch - only troubles.
if cut off 4 cores from 6268cl it is work fine with 3.4ghz without c-states(c0\c1).If not cut off the cores with no limit c-states, situation will be better, but not for long workload.
8275CL so hot, but stable. 8259cl cold, but stable turbo boost. 6248R best choice.
If enable c-state c1e, limit for temperature will be higher by 4-6 degrees Celsius
 

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I don't think I ever saw this specifically mentioned, but will ES CPUs work with these mods?

I have a Dell T7920 tower, and I'm torn between grabbing a pair of 8260 ES, 8259L ES, or 8259CL (non ES) chips off eBay. There's also a 8260M QS chip, but they're nearly double the price (and only 165W).

Also do any of the "known good" chips support DDR4-2933 memory speeds? If they're all stuck at DDR4-2666, I guess packing the DIMM slots with Optane memory might not be a bad idea.

Thanks!
 

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I don't think I ever saw this specifically mentioned, but will ES CPUs work with these mods?
this mod does not change anything in BIOS or CPU.
if your BIOS don't support your ES it will not work, and vice versa.
 

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I have a 7920T on BIOS 1.7.1 and I am planning to upgrade and update it. Would the 8259CL be the best chip (with this mod) or does the new-ish microcode make this chip no longer worth the effort (0x5003003)?

What other CL/ES/QS options does this mod open up that are compatible with Dell's latest bios? I'm using 2666 ram and plan to add optane.
 

Mion

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I scalped p-8124,8175m,qq8a(es2 5stepping) only thermal paste between cpu and IHS. Has anyone checked 8275cl and 8259cl?
 

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Hi, I had a quick question regarding the dual-socket boards such as the X11DPi-N(T) - Is the use of both sockets required to perform the mod, or can you do it for the relevant socket with just that one main socket populated?
 

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Hi, I had a quick question regarding the dual-socket boards such as the X11DPi-N(T) - Is the use of both sockets required to perform the mod, or can you do it for the relevant socket with just that one main socket populated?
you can only mod the 2nd CPU VRM with a CPU populated there and in first socket, the controller are disabled without CPU populated.
 
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