EU UK Cheap Fusion-io £150 3.2TB and £400 6.4TB PCI-e SSDs

DouglasteR

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I'd disable anything you have that pulls drive temps/etc that might run at startup and see if that fixes it.
ANNNDDD problem is SOLVED.

SIV64X was the culprit :(

Without it everything is working just fine.

Thanks for the help acquacow :*
 

DouglasteR

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Just for the record, managed to get in touch with SIV dev and after some logs and fussing he updated the software and now it is totally compatible !

Cheers :yes: !
 
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clubman

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so just got one of these cards, not sure whether its dell/hp/sandisk, used the dell drivers (3.2.15) but it doesnt seem to extraxt the files for the utils, just leaves an msi file of them and i have no way of extraxting (when running ti it starts then closes itself)
anyone have any ideas? windows version im using is windows 10
 
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clubman

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have the same thing with the sandisk one, same version 3.2.15.1699.
installs files and driver for card, but doesnt properly extract the utils.
have also tried the dell 3.2.14 also and is the same.
any help would be gladly appreciated, as want to check the state of the card etc
 
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clubman

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sorry, sorted now........if i run fio-status -a it gives me all the info, dont need to be in the directory.
me being a bit thick, aslo drive showing 81% pbw....was sold as a grade A so will be messaging seller
 
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jaysa

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3.2TB cards are for sale again at £240 or make an offer (Grade B).
They also have Grade A cards at £320 but the endurance on these is so large that the Grade B cards seem a better bet ...
UK sellers ships to EU, US, Canada

The thread title says £150, so apologies if you feel click-baited !
 

Svetgar

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Hello, I picked up one of these recently. I read through this thread and have it working but I am a bit concerned about the temperature. This is just after installing, at idle, and side of case is open.

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Internal temperature: 71.36 degC, max 72.84 degC
Here are the rest of the stats

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C:\Program Files\Common Files\VSL Utils>fio-status -a

Found 1 ioMemory device in this system
Driver version: 3.2.15 build 1699

Adapter: Single Controller Adapter
        Fusion-io ioScale 3.20TB, Product Number:F11-002-3T20-CS-0001, SN:1439D1552, FIO SN:1439D1552
        ioDrive2 Adapter Controller, PN:PA005064001
        External Power: NOT connected
        PCIe Bus voltage: avg 11.66V
        PCIe Bus current: avg 1.02A
        PCIe Bus power: avg 12.01W
        PCIe Power limit threshold: 24.75W
        PCIe slot available power: unavailable
        Connected ioMemory modules:
          fct0: Product Number:F11-002-3T20-CS-0001, SN:1439D1552

fct0    Attached
        ioDrive2 Adapter Controller, Product Number:F11-002-3T20-CS-0001, SN:1439D1552
        ioDrive2 Adapter Controller, PN:PA005064001
        SMP(AVR) Versions: App Version: 1.0.20.0, Boot Version: 1.0.6.1
        Located in slot 0 Center of ioDrive2 Adapter Controller SN:1439D1552
        Powerloss protection: protected
        PCI:05:00.0
        Vendor:1aed, Device:2001, Sub vendor:1aed, Sub device:2001
        Firmware v7.1.17, rev 116786 Public
        3200.00 GBytes device size
        Format: v500, 781250000 sectors of 4096 bytes
        PCIe slot available power: 25.00W
        PCIe negotiated link: 4 lanes at 5.0 Gt/sec each, 2000.00 MBytes/sec total
        Internal temperature: 71.36 degC, max 72.84 degC
        Internal voltage: avg 1.01V, max 1.02V
        Aux voltage: avg 2.48V, max 2.48V
        Reserve space status: Healthy; Reserves: 100.00%, warn at 10.00%
        Active media: 100.00%
        Rated PBW: 20.00 PB, 74.28% remaining
        Lifetime data volumes:
           Physical bytes written: 5,143,404,482,151,352
           Physical bytes read   : 5,201,374,848,697,872
        RAM usage:
           Current: 152,835,968 bytes
           Peak   : 152,840,128 bytes
        Contained VSUs:
          fct0: ID:0, UUID:df865028-e56d-4c8b-b1b8-4f317efc85fe

fct0    State: Online, Type: block device
        ID:0, UUID:df865028-e56d-4c8b-b1b8-4f317efc85fe
        3200.00 GBytes device size
        Format: 781250000 sectors of 4096 bytes
 

acquacow

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Ideally you'd have some airflow over the heatsink, the ideal spec is 300LFM of airflow at peak write workload.

That is a 55W FPGA under that little heatsink, so perhaps look into an Antec spot cool or using a pci-e bracket fan to get some airflow over it.

I think those are still the industrial FPGAs on those, they will start write throttling the card around 85F and take them offline at 95F I think.

Antec Spot Cool: https://www.amazon.com/Antec-Spot-Cool-SpotCool-System/dp/B000I5KSNQ

PCI-e fan bracket: https://www.amazon.com/NOYITO-Graphics-Cooling-Side-Blown-Vertical/dp/B073QLQ87R

-- Dave
 
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Svetgar

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Thanks for the help. I've got a side vent and added a fan there blowing directly onto it. I'm in the process of building a whole new setup so right now this is just temporary. Is it possible to do a repaste on these? ;)

I was mostly concerned if I should request a replacement from the seller or if those temperatures were normal.

Edit to add, the other one I got is idling at 55 degrees. Thats what got me concerned with this one.
 

acquacow

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With no airflow, 70C is definitely a possibility. Mine used to run about 70-80c before I put a fan on them, especially when they are sandwiched together.



In one of my old builds, I had a bunch packed together with a 10gige card, sas, card, and some other things... Got pretty toasty in there:


I had a 120mm blower pulling air from the front of the case via the drive cage to get air on them, plus a 140mm fan directly over the pci-e slots to pull the air back out:


I've done similar in pre-built HP Z workstations:


I've even put fans on some in some cases...
 

Svetgar

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That's quite the setup!

Again, thanks very much for helping me with this. I understand from reading this thread that you are or were somehow involved with the development of these drives, so if you say it is alright, then it is alright.
 

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Not development, but I was a sales engineer with the product for 6 years. I've installed them into nearly every kind of server/workstation/desktop/etc. I've built up prototype POC's with nearly every software stack as well.
 

mr.squishy

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Made an account just for this. Got mine the other day for $205. Didn't get super lucky on drive life with only 67.43% life remaining but at 13.4 PB of life I'm sure that's fine for my gaming rig. Had a funny experience with it, I couldn't initially get it to work, I spent 3 hours trying to figure it out without being able to get the drive to detect so I finally decided to sleep on it and try it the next morning. It instantly detected the next morning (without me touching anything) and has worked flawlessly ever since. Go figure.
 

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Just remember, that's the warrantied "drive life" and not actual drive life. With adaptive flashback/etc on the card, it'll probably go way beyond that.
 

philfromqueens

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How do you guys check the endurance and how much life is left on the drive?

When I run fio-status.exe -a I get this result:
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Rated PBW: 20.00 PB, -6.23% remaining
-6.23% remaining doesn't seem right.
 

thingy2098

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What's the rest of the output? It'll tell you exactly how many bytes were written on the next line. Sounds like you're roughly at a bit over 21PB written.

I'd also look at the "Reserve space status" line a little further up.

The manufacturers' estimates are generally pretty conservative, and it's not uncommon for an SSD to be able to exceed its 'rated' write endurance by even an order of magnitute, although you are obviously rolling the dice at that point.

The SSD Endurance Experiment: They're all dead - The Tech Report
 

philfromqueens

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Code:
Lifetime data volumes:
           Physical bytes written: 21,245,839,286,930,928
           Physical bytes read   : 25,656,803,924,434,488
        RAM usage:
           Current: 152,852,608 bytes
           Peak   : 152,852,608 bytes
so i guess that means that the one i bought has already exceeded its lifespan? geez i should look into returning this drive
 
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