Topton Jasper Lake Quad i225V Mini PC Report

[pioneer-1]

yes ... all of those are default

i think you should check for the gap and mitigate it .... you will get way better temps. i have the exact same model.

do you have windows installed ?
im curious if your unit boosts and maintains 2.8 ghz until thermal limit if you put PL1 to at least 20w .....but that needs to happen after you fix the gap because otherwhise it will cap really soon

sorry, which gap do you mean?
i found no Option so far to bring the power consumption to zero, when the device is switched off. It seems it is because of the lan ports, because they still blink.
i use the pc as a Opnsense router, no windows installed.

in this case, yes, the switched-off-power consumption is irrelevant, but would be nice to know.


another question: does anybody know which pin from the 4 pin fan header is for what and what kind of plug it is exactly? I wanted to add some internal 40mm fan.

 

[gandsr]

another question: does anybody know which pin from the 4 pin fan header is for what and what kind of plug it is exactly? I wanted to add some internal 40mm fan.

Great timing! My connector came in the mail today, I've installed it and it's functioning correctly. I've attached a photo of the connector I used.
I attached a noctua 4010 5v 4 pin pwm fan it uses the conventional pwm fan pinout.

 

[pioneer-1]

Great timing! My connector came in the mail today, I've installed it and it's functioning correctly. I've attached a photo of the connector I used.
I attached a noctua 4010 5v 4 pin pwm fan it uses the conventional pwm fan pinout.

That’s great! I want to install the same fan like you. Do you know which pin is for which of the four PWM cables? From left to right

 

[gandsr]

That’s great! I want to install the same fan like you. Do you know which pin is for which of the four PWM cables? From left to right

Pin 1 is the one with the triangle pointing at it. I started there with black, next yellow, then green then blue. See attached diagram.

 

[agent_kenshin]

Hello, reporting back on my (V2 I think which has a rs232 COM port) N5105 x6 225v Topton box running Proxmox. The project has been moving pretty slow due to time on my part. The unit just sits on my desk which runs a couple of Linux VM's which I use for troubleshooting things, TrueNas core small storage vault to host troubleshooting tools/steaming a video file or 2, and OpnSense.

I installed 5.19.7-1 Edge back in early Sept and I think it is safe to say that this is stable. A couple weeks after I did this, they made the 5.19 opt-in.

My TrueNas VM I reported over a month ago froze out of the blue on me on this kernel but has been fine for the last 38 days but needed some manual intervention during a Upgrade this week; it never restarted after a update which pegged the CPU at 100% which also happened during that first freeze incident. No problems with crash guests and one of my Debian 11 VM's had the same 76 days uptime with 1 reboot last week which was needed for some tools. No Issues on one of my Arch VM's I built a package from source the other day which took over 10 hours with a couple of CPU's pegged at 100% topping out at 77C

So tonight I went ahead to live life more on the edge and updated PVE Edge 6.0.9-1 (2022-11-16). Too early to tell but everything went well and is good so far. I am amazed after I shut it down and cold booted it and told my main 3 VM's TrueNas, OpnSense, and MX-Linux to start at boot, everything was back up in less then 1 minute and 30 seconds. About to build that same package from source on that Arch VM to monitor for any freezes.

I just found out as of writing this that Proxmox VE 7.3 just got released with updated 5.15 and optional 5.19 kerenls. Details here Proxmox VE 7.3 released!

I am going to wait on 7.3 since just did the 6.0.9-1 kernel and have not heard any details on this yet and 7.3 since it got released. Also I heard some earlier versions on this 6.0 Edge kernel was causing Debian guests freeze but the details on this are sketchy. Might be worth checking this out if anyone is having any issues with the i226V nics.

I will report back if I have any issues or if I go ahead on the 7.3 update.

 

[omrij]

Is this product legit?

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLJuNRW

Haven't seen i7-1165g7 with i226 on CWWK

 

[rfox]

Hello All and Happy Thanksgiving!! Just got my Ryzen 5800U unit - waiting for memory upgrade for dual channel (32GB) - Makes a good impression so far . . . I did see the latest article and video from Patrick - I think I found a potential cable for that strange NVME connector on the motherboard - Just gotta find out where to get one . . .

 

[DomFel]

Can anyone with n6005/n5105/j6413 show the output of

iperf3 -s -D && iperf3 -c 127.0.0.1

Under opnsense/pfsense
Thanks in advance

N6005 from Proxmox

[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 3.46 GBytes 29.7 Gbits/sec 2 767 KBytes
[ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 3.61 GBytes 31.0 Gbits/sec 0 767 KBytes
[ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 3.78 GBytes 32.5 Gbits/sec 1 767 KBytes
[ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 3.68 GBytes 31.7 Gbits/sec 0 767 KBytes
[ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 3.64 GBytes 31.2 Gbits/sec 0 767 KBytes
[ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 3.46 GBytes 29.7 Gbits/sec 0 895 KBytes
[ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 3.79 GBytes 32.5 Gbits/sec 0 767 KBytes
[ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 3.33 GBytes 28.6 Gbits/sec 4 767 KBytes
[ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 3.27 GBytes 28.1 Gbits/sec 1 895 KBytes
[ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 3.62 GBytes 31.1 Gbits/sec 1 895 KBytes
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 35.6 GBytes 30.6 Gbits/sec 9 sender
[ 5] 0.00-10.04 sec 35.6 GBytes 30.5 Gbits/sec receiver

N6005 from pfsense within Proxmox

[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 3.17 GBytes 27.2 Gbits/sec 0 862 KBytes
[ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 2.89 GBytes 24.8 Gbits/sec 0 1.62 MBytes
[ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 2.64 GBytes 22.7 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
[ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 2.57 GBytes 22.1 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
[ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 2.61 GBytes 22.4 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
[ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 2.49 GBytes 21.4 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
[ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 2.61 GBytes 22.4 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
[ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 2.57 GBytes 22.1 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
[ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 2.62 GBytes 22.5 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
[ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 2.62 GBytes 22.5 Gbits/sec 0 2.01 MBytes
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 26.8 GBytes 23.0 Gbits/sec 0 sender
[ 5] 0.00-10.08 sec 26.8 GBytes 22.8 Gbits/sec receiver

 

[mervincm]

Having never purchased china direct before, advice would be appreciated. After 94 pages it seems the right purchase for a standalone PFSENSE /OPNSENSE box is the 4 i226 interface model with the v5 motherboard, and the 5105 CPU, specifying that I want the optional fan included and to purchase it directly from the systemboard maker CW, and the base 128GB SSD and 4GB RAM are fine if not excellent value. Does that make sense?
Since I want the optional fan included, I have to contact customer service directly, but I can't seem to find out how to do so.

 

[dazagrt]

Having never purchased china direct before, advice would be appreciated. After 94 pages it seems the right purchase for a standalone PFSENSE /OPNSENSE box is the 4 i226 interface model with the v5 motherboard, and the 5105 CPU, specifying that I want the optional fan included and to purchase it directly from the systemboard maker CW, and the base 128GB SSD and 4GB RAM are fine if not excellent value. Does that make sense?
Since I want the optional fan included, I have to contact customer service directly, but I can't seem to find out how to do so.

On the whole, yes, but buy the RAM and SSD yourself, it's cheaper and better quality that way.

 

[mervincm]

OK, barebones it is. 55 can$ will get me 250G adata NVME and 8GB gskill SODIMM. Any idea how to contact CW customer survice to request they include the fan for a few extra $$$

 

[dazagrt]

Any idea how to contact CW customer survice to request they include the fan for a few extra $$$

Just click on the contact link from the main CWWK store page or from the "Contact" link on the product page.

Click on my photo (above) to see it in a large size.

 

[sqrwv]

• When switched off and power plug is still attached to the device, it consumes 3 watts - Why? Wake on LAN is switched off on bios. The power supply unit is from liteOn and seems to be ok, since it consumes no power when the computer is plugged off.

With box powered off, the USB ports still power the connected devices.
Disconnect everything from all USB ports.
Here I have 1.6W powered off.

• The cpu requires 1,7 volts in bios. Maybe quite high?

That's normal, N5105 uses intel FIVR (Fully Integrated Voltage Regulators), it means the voltage is regulated inside the soc and a lower voltage is used.

 

[T.Sharp]

Is there any real advantage to the i226 systems? Apart from just being slightly newer, I haven't seen evidence that they preform better or save enough power to justify the price increase.

You can get a barebones N5100 i225 box for $100 with the coupon on the WooYi store. Uses the same mobo as some of the Topton store units.
I think I'm going to order a second one to play with.

@sqrwv that BIOS unlock trick is pretty cool. It looks like you should be able to undervolt the actual CPU core and other rails. Just to experiment, I reduced VCCIO from 1.1 to 1V, and put a 50mV negative offset on all the other rails I could find. No issues yet, but I really need to put Windows back on it so I can stress test the different settings.

Even appears that there's an override to increase the max CPU multiplier, but I haven't tried that yet. You can also overclock memory above 2933MHz.There's more settings than most high end overclocking motherboards.

 

[SandlesNoSand]

Having never purchased china direct before, advice would be appreciated. After 94 pages it seems the right purchase for a standalone PFSENSE /OPNSENSE box is the 4 i226 interface model with the v5 motherboard, and the 5105 CPU, specifying that I want the optional fan included and to purchase it directly from the systemboard maker CW, and the base 128GB SSD and 4GB RAM are fine if not excellent value. Does that make sense?
Since I want the optional fan included, I have to contact customer service directly, but I can't seem to find out how to do so.

Add a name-brand SSD yourself. Don't trust the stock Chinese SSD. The failure rate is too high. Your best bet is to get the barebones version of the firewall and separately order some cheap Crucial ram (4-8gb) and a reliable SSD from Samsung (anything over 32gb)

 

[mervincm]

Is there any real advantage to the i226 systems? Apart from just being slightly newer, I haven't seen evidence that they preform better or save enough power to justify the price increase.

You can get a barebones N5100 i225 box for $100 with the coupon on the WooYi store. Uses the same mobo as some of the Topton store units.
I think I'm going to order a second one to play with.

@sqrwv that BIOS unlock trick is pretty cool. It looks like you should be able to undervolt the actual CPU core and other rails. Just to experiment, I reduced VCCIO from 1.1 to 1V, and put a 50mV negative offset on all the other rails I could find. No issues yet, but I really need to put Windows back on it so I can stress test the different settings.

Even appears that there's an override to increase the max CPU multiplier, but I haven't tried that yet. There's more settings than most high end overclocking motherboards. Can even overclock memory above 2933MHz.

I only wanted to get the i226 to make 100% sure I was not getting an older board with the defective first gen i225 NICs

255can$ vs 155 can$ yeesh, that is quite a big difference ...

 

[T.Sharp]

I only wanted to get the i226 to make 100% sure I was not getting an older board with the defective first gen i225 NICs

255can$ vs 155 can$ yeesh, that is quite a big difference ...

From everything I've seen, the Jasper Lake i225 boxes are all using V3/B3 revisions now. The one I linked above does for sure.

 

[pioneer-1]

From everything I've seen, the Jasper Lake i225 boxes are all using V3/B3 revisions now. The one I linked above does for sure.

it seems the link is not working…. It says „Sorry, the page you requested can not be found“
could you please check again?

 

[dazagrt]

it seems the link is not working…. It says „Sorry, the page you requested can not be found“
could you please check again?

The link works fine. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/1005004302428997.html

Edit; if you can't see it you might be geo-blocked, use a VPN to a different country and try again.

 

[rfox]

Is there any real advantage to the i226 systems? Apart from just being slightly newer, I haven't seen evidence that they preform better or save enough power to justify the price increase.

You can get a barebones N5100 i225 box for $100 with the coupon on the WooYi store. Uses the same mobo as some of the Topton store units.
I think I'm going to order a second one to play with.

@sqrwv that BIOS unlock trick is pretty cool. It looks like you should be able to undervolt the actual CPU core and other rails. Just to experiment, I reduced VCCIO from 1.1 to 1V, and put a 50mV negative offset on all the other rails I could find. No issues yet, but I really need to put Windows back on it so I can stress test the different settings.

Even appears that there's an override to increase the max CPU multiplier, but I haven't tried that yet. You can also overclock memory above 2933MHz.There's more settings than most high end overclocking motherboards.

Where did you get the coupon? Link maybe? Thx.