Not really usable like this for me. Want to run VM with OPNsense and need 3 port in there (passthrough). Plus the one for Proxmox.
Any experience how they react?
No idea, I never complained (because China and I only order what I can write off without headaches). My J3160 box also lost one port after a while and after more time it reappeared in the hardware overview, so it looks like it was only on holidays without giving me an "out of office" note before leaving. Personally I don't care as I only use two ports and still have one spare port left before running into issues.
When you deal with the dispute, get as much information as you can. Provide pictures and screenshots of everything. check for any info in the bios about the cards being recognized or not, any other listing besides the lspci output you posted earlier.
It should be a pretty easy case, they should offer a refund or a replacement. Make sure the seller pays (or even better straight sends you the traceable shipping labels) for the return shipping on the defective unit.
About your power draw data, it depends a lot on bios settings. The box unoptimized will draw a lot more than a fully customized setup with correctly set c-states (there are some tweaks you need to do in proxmox too). Mine with three ports enabled, a pentium 7505 and a few optimizations between bios and OS draws about 12-13W idle with a 120mm fan at 5V on top.
Do you have any hints? have not found any specific information about this matter so far.
C-states to work for me, but CPU clock is fixed to 2Ghz, as I can only change power staes between performance and powersafe
I got the box (by now it has i226) and followed the advice about setting C3 sleep states and the ASPM support in the bios. Its running the latest 2.7 beta of pfsense and its "barely warm to the touch" after my morning Teams video meeting (ie. light consistent internet packets coming and going for 20 minutes).
pfSense reports cpu temp is 30 degrees Celsius and I haven't even removed the factory heatsink paste or done anything else.
Super happy with this so far. I ordered the bare kit and put in an old SATA SSD and a 4 gig stick of DDR4 I had lying around.
I agree with T.Sharp that the fears of these things overheating are way overblown. I know people want to run the CPU at 100% all the time and then complain they are not good bitcoin miners or whatever but for a router in the home this thing is a sweet ride.
Still haven't gotten around to running any tests to see how fast it can handle openvpn traffic, but so far so good. I did see one error after I did the C3 sleep states but it hasn't repeated in over a week now.
Feelin good about my new setup
*edit* also wanted to mention I don't need to do any fancy key combos to get into the advanced bios settings. The bios on my machine allows you set a ton of parameters on the cpu and the PCIE bus and USB and everything else. Definitely full featured in this revision.
*edit* also wanted to mention I don't need to do any fancy key combos to get into the advanced bios settings. The bios on my machine allows you set a ton of parameters on the cpu and the PCIE bus and USB and everything else. Definitely full featured in this revision.
Glad it's working well for ya! I just added a link to my config in my signature, so hopefully it's a bit easier for people to find (although it looks like signatures are hidden by default, you can still find it from the "about" section on my profile)
Do you happen to know the bios build date of your box? Mine is 09/07/2022.
Glad it's working well for ya! I just added a link to my config in my signature, so hopefully it's a bit easier for people to find (although it looks like signatures are hidden by default, you can still find it from the "about" section on my profile)
Do you happen to know the bios build date of your box? Mine is 09/07/2022.
Thanks for the pointer to your full config. I knew I had seen it before I bought the router but damned if I could find it again when the time came to set it up! Maybe Ill get a chance to apply the rest of it over the long weekend.
Thanks for the pointer to your full config. I knew I had seen it before I bought the router but damned if I could find it again when the time came to set it up! Maybe Ill get a chance to apply the rest of it over the long weekend.
Thanks for checking, looks like you have the V14 bios like Foxtrot. I'm trying to find out if the older i225V models can be updated with that bios, but haven't found any download source or info. I might try messaging the Aliexpress store.
A lot of the config settings I listed are optional and make no real difference in power consumption, I just wanted to disable superfluous features. Sounds like you got the important ones though
Have a look at your ISP settings, you might need to set the modem in bridge mode and configure the WAN interface on OPNsense to PPPoE instead of IP mode. Most likely the VLAN tagging on the VDSL side will be handled by the vigor and you'll need to set nothing about it in OPNsense.
Yes, have the Vigor running with Unifi USG for a few years in that setting - pppoe pass-through and so on.
Just wanted to do an easy switch
Currently following a hint, that latest Vigor FW might break working with OPNsense and pfsense.
Will know in a bit if this help.
UPDATE:
The PPPOE connection issue between OPNsense and Vigor130 was related to the Vigor 130 FW version! Only FW 3.8.4 or older so work. Reason unknown...
So I bought a cheap Cqenpr 2.5G 8-port switch with POE ($160 at the time) which externally is identical to a couple others that go for $185. It is also virtually identical to the Hasivo reviewed previously here. I was surprised that the one I got supports 90W on port 1 (after looking at the Mokerlink it says so in its description).
I also got this POE splitter which is supposed to be good for 24W and that is powering my CWWK N5105 box running Opnsense. Says gigabit, but like also with some (most?) injectors, it is good for 2.5Gb as well.
For WiFi I connected my Omada EAP670 through its POE port. This I had a bit of trouble with it negotiating 2.5G, it only does 1000 Mbps after powering up, but a reboot from the GUI fixes this, so not too big a deal.
So I have simplified my power sources and cabling, but the cost is that the whole system now consumes about 6W more than it was doing with their separate power supplies (idling, 29W -> 35W), and instead of the new switch, it was a 5-port Trendnet TEG-S350.
To update, I've been running this for two weeks as my router/server, running about a dozen services on Ubuntu 22.04, bare metal. It's been rock solid - no problems at all.
Be sure to see this thread, where @fta posted an unlocked BIOS. With the settings there I and others are getting benchmark tests off the charts for the CPUs in these systems. This make the charts on the aliexpress listings understate the CPU power by quite a bit. Because the 8505 isn't tested as much, it's the most understaed, and as shown in the other thread performs much closer to the 1215U than the listing.
The system does not get very hot, even at full blast. I don't see temperatures much higher than 70°, and the case also never gets too hot. Overall it cools quite well.
Ubuntu Server 22.04 would not install properly. First, I needed to add nomodeset to the boot arguments just to get the installer running, but then another installer bug would pop up. I just installed desktop (no issues), and manually switched it to a server install.
The blue power LED is extremely bright. Easily leaking out of my server (bedroom) closet. I put a cover over it.
The included screwdriver is useless as an actual screwdriver, but makes a great fidget toy.
I think the Gold 8505 would be just fine, and save ~$60. My use case involves sitting mostly idle, then a short, bursty process every minute or two (incoming request, email, or something). Ideally it shouldn't need the extra P-core of the i3-1215U much if at all. However, as seen on this post, the scheduler doesn't always put jobs on the ideal core on the 8505. I haven't noticed that with my 1215U, though it could be just because I haven't run the benchmark enough times for it to happen, or it just happens much less frequently because of the extra P-core. I'd also bet that the Linux scheduler improves over time and starts hitting the P-core more frequently. With all that, in the end I don't think I'd notice the performance difference much. But on the other hand, I'm also not going to notice $60 spread over the lifetime of the one computer much either, so I guess either way is fine.
In my experience, with the boost TDP tuned properly, I can get all two cores to boost permanently to 3.4 GHz for an almost indefinite time. With a 120mm fan running at 5V, during these tests the worst I've seen is 55°C on the cpu.
My machine is currently running "idle" at 8% cpu load (proxmox, OPNsense, Ubuntu Server, Home Assistant + InfluxDB and Grafana). I've ran a few test with from the proxmox's console both with sysbench and stress-NG and these are the results:
Number of threads: 1
Initializing random number generator from current time
Prime numbers limit: 10000
Initializing worker threads...
Threads started!
CPU speed:
events per second: 2505.85
General statistics:
total time: 10.0002s
total number of events: 25063
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