Friends, currently the price of Supermicro-H12SSL-I in China has risen to $900 because the official no longer sells individual motherboards to suppliers as before. There are two versions of the South China Gold Medal motherboard H12D-8D, and the cost price with BMC is $350. If the cost including eBay is added, the minimum cost price is $380, and the cost without BMC is close to $320. Adding eBay's fees will result in a cost of $350, however, we need to provide high shipping costs as the motherboard needs to be well protected. The actual cost of using express delivery is usually between $60-80, so our cost is close to $440. Therefore, the profit we obtained was not significant. If there is a return situation, our losses will be huge. The profit we obtained is not as high as the cost of returning the productI got a guy who says he can get this board for roughly $320 from another distributer. The Tugm4470 distributer tax is a little excessive, like numerous asia based sellers with multiple ebay shops.
Just shop around bud.
Indeed Huananzhi is a pretty big company and has numerous outlets, and the pricing varies considerably depending on units purchased as is the norm, but ontop of that the 'distributer' tax varies considerably.
Supermicro H12SSL-i, H12SSL-C, H12SSL-NT, H12SSL-CT boards - notes, experiences
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I'm happy for you, but this is not available to 99% of people on STH
a distributor is usualy located in your region to serve support and warranty for the far away manufatcurer.
You are really trying to be insufferable.
Got an email from another supplier today (translated from German):
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Unfortunately, we don't get any delivery times from Supermicro for boards, so the only thing you can do is to pre-order them.
We usually receive them within 4 weeks - but no guarantee.
If you get this board faster elsewhere, you can cancel your pre-order.
H12SSL-i - 433€ net, 515€ gross incl. tax
H12SSL-NT - 538€ net, 640€ gross incl. tax
I was thinking about H13SSL since prices around are similar to H12SSL, but CPU prices are insane. Is there ANY SP5 CPU for reasonable price available? Otherwise my best bet is still H12SSL-NT.
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My friend, currently the price of H13SSL motherboards in China exceeds $950. Today, we just sold 50 H13SSLs to the server agent of China's Meichao because they do not have separate motherboards, and our current inventory only has 6 motherboards. However, the price of 9004-9005 CPUs has not changed yet. We have a sales contract, and you can guarantee that what I said is true because it is difficult for us to obtain separate motherboards in China at present
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My friend, currently the price of H13SSL motherboards in China exceeds $950. Today, we just sold 50 H13SSLs to the server agent of China's Meichao because they do not have separate motherboards, and our current inventory only has 6 motherboards. However, the price of 9004-9005 CPUs has not changed yet. We have a sales contract, and you can guarantee that what I said is true because it is difficult for us to obtain separate motherboards in China at present
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我在考虑H13SSL，因为它的价格和H12SSL差不多，但是CPU的价格太离谱了。有没有任何SP5 CPU以合理的价格提供？否则我最好的选择仍然是H12SSL-NT。
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我的朋友，目前中国H13SSL主板的价格超过950美元。今天，我们刚刚向中国美超的服务器代理商出售了50块H13SSL，因为他们没有单独的主板，而我们目前的库存只有6块主板。然而，9004-9005 CPU的价格还没有变化。我们有一个销售合同，你可以保证我说的是真的，因为目前我们在中国很难获得单独的主板。
我在考虑H13SSL，因为它的价格和H12SSL差不多，但是CPU的价格太离谱了。有没有任何SP5 CPU以合理的价格提供？否则我最好的选择仍然是H12SSL-NT。
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我的朋友，目前中国H13SSL主板的价格超过950美元。今天，我们刚刚向中国美超的服务器代理商出售了50块H13SSL，因为他们没有单独的主板，而我们目前的库存只有6块主板。然而，9004-9005 CPU的价格还没有变化。我们有一个销售合同，你可以保证我说的是真的，因为目前我们在中国很难获得单独的主板。
After a long time of persuading myself I don't need it, I ordered H12SSL-I for €458. It's definitely most expensive board I ever bought. Hope it serves me well. Thanks a lot everyone here that helped me with my choice
Lovely board, as long as you treat it right with good cooling, good dust filtering, clean stable power.After a long time of persuading myself I don't need it, I ordered H12SSL-I for €458. It's definitely most expensive board I ever bought. Hope it serves me well. Thanks a lot everyone here that helped me with my choice
Obviously a little late, but personally I would have recommended the 'NT' version as it comes with two x8 slimsas ports that expand out for direct passive 4 x U.2/U.3 drives, couple these ports with the most reliable passive slimsas cables for gen 4 drives such as the 'Highpoint' range of slimsas to 2 x 8639, and you have a fantastic server with plenty more room for expansion.
I'm currently on the wall with the new superfast Epyc cpus, just love the idea of having a performance-desktop-like single-thread speed rating mega-core server cpu, but *cough* they're still priced in the thousands and then the board and memory would also probably lead my better-half away from our holy union. If only the pricing was back to 1999 levels lol
ps. I bought the H12SSL-NT back when it first came out for roughly 200 bucks.... Klaus Swarrrb and co really did help their elitists filthy-rich buddies to screw us regular folk over indeed, yup, make 'scarcity' the norm, produce less, ramp up prices to keep the margins as before. Clever barstarrrds. If I could, I'd like to reset them and see how they like it. Oh and I'd also love to scalp the scalpers too who help turn things from bad to terrible.
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Anyone using them as desktop? Considering doing that, but a bit concerned about noise and idle power consumption (I leave my desktop computer running as I tend to access it remotely often from within my flat or outside. Perhaps I should move to VMs…)
As long as you happy with long boot-up times. Personally I would never use or promote a server-board as a desktop candidate, also I not sure if these server-grade boards like being daily turned on and off, indeed YMMV, but one has to remember that boards are designed by manufacturers for particular use-cases, and that use-case 'window' is where the manufacturers do all their testing, once you go out of that window, you're kind of on your own. But this is where fellow STHers can come along and chime in with their experience, but should always be taken with a barrel of salt because what works for Mr A, maybe down to quality of Mr A's board and specific attached devices and not necessarily apply across the broad spectrum of millions of different configurations.
But if you need a great server that's always running and you can RDP/Moonlight into it or even run VMs with passthrough GPUs and USB cards for running virtual workstations, then it is a great board for that.
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Yup, I hear ya, but sometimes we realise after-the-fact that we should have spent the 25% at the start rather than jigging crap together in the future, the beauty of those slimsas ports is that supermicro has some wonderful integrated redrivers already in there, which helps when you do eventually plan to strap lightening fast nvme drives to the board in an nU chassis.Yes, I know about NT version, but it was €100 more
But anyhoo, enjoy!
Didn't know about redrivers, thanks for info. Maybe when I will be changing for H13SSL, I take NT version insteadYup, I hear ya, but sometimes we realise after-the-fact that we should have spent the 25% at the start rather than jigging crap together in the future, the beauty of those slimsas ports is that supermicro has some wonderful integrated redrivers already in there, which helps when you do eventually plan to strap lightening fast nvme drives to the board in an nU chassis.
But anyhoo, enjoy!
For now, I'm happy with 7 PCIe ports. I currently have three.Yeah, I've had this as a personal workstation/gaming/general desktop for 2 years and I've nothing bad to say. I just leave it running at all times, idle is ca. 130-140 W with 6 spinny disks, some NVMe and 7443p. Boot times are long, and you need to fiddle with BIOS options to get regular AMD consumer cards working (7800XT needed fiddling, RTX "quadro"s and Pro Radeons have worked out of the box)
Noise is just fine, using the ipmitool to control fans, I've got CPU fans chained to Linux sensors tctl temperature and chassis fans on power consumption by custom script.
90 seconds of time waiting is a lot of money, once you lose that 90 seconds, its gone for good, theres no getting it back. My desktop takes exactly 15 seconds to log in and it has a hell of a lot more grunt than anything a H12SSL could muster.
Kidding aside, it isn't too bad, no way comparable to the HP servers of old taking forever to start up.
Things like this are always going to be a personal preference, for some of us, waiting for something is too annoying, Amazon same-day delivery and HP Elitedesk minis spoilt us lol
Kidding aside, it isn't too bad, no way comparable to the HP servers of old taking forever to start up.
Things like this are always going to be a personal preference, for some of us, waiting for something is too annoying, Amazon same-day delivery and HP Elitedesk minis spoilt us lol