SunSoont SST-MTG8T4XS 12 Port 10G Web Managed Switch

[blunden]

I don’t understand this fascination with no-name hardware. Especially switches. Especially these crappy switches.

Outside of China or China adjacent geographies no one is gonna buy them. Why? Because they‘re crap.

Because the value for money is great and the feature set and performance is good too. They also have low power draw, which matters a lot in many regions. They can have a few bugs, but those can generally be worked around.

What’s the point of bringing these things up on STH, which is primarily a US audience??

Because people are interested in buying them? There is a lot of discussion about these kind of switches here if you didn't notice. Clearly people are interested in them.

There are lots of people here from other regions so that's just an incorrect assumption on your part.

 

[kapone]

Because the value for money is great and the feature set and performance is good too. They also have low power draw, which matters a lot in many regions. They can have a few bugs, but those can generally be worked around.

This is not true at all. You could buy a used top grade switch like Mellanox SX6036 (36x40/56gbps ports) for under $100 and it idles at ~35w. There's ZERO bugs in the MLNX-OS software, given it's maturity and it offers way more functionality and density than these switches.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. It takes a lot of resources and time to develop a rock solid switch software/OS and these switches aint it.

 

[blunden]

This is not true at all. You could buy a used top grade switch like Mellanox SX6036 (36x40/56gbps ports) for under $100 and it idles at ~35w. There's ZERO bugs in the MLNX-OS software, given it's maturity and it offers way more functionality and density than these switches.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. It takes a lot of resources and time to develop a rock solid switch software/OS and these switches aint it.

Compared to the smaller fanless desktop units, that's still an idle power consumption 5-10 times higher.

For these larger rack mounted switches with active cooling, your objection makes a little more sense though. Unfortunately, these Mellanox switches are more expensive in other regions and shipping from the US + VAT can easily get expensive so they might not be an option.

Regardless, I find these things fascinating (and the desktop units immensely useful).

 

[Shonk]

This is not true at all. You could buy a used top grade switch like Mellanox SX6036 (36x40/56gbps ports) for under $100 and it idles at ~35w. There's ZERO bugs in the MLNX-OS software, given it's maturity and it offers way more functionality and density than these switches.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. It takes a lot of resources and time to develop a rock solid switch software/OS and these switches aint it.

So this is your solution for SOHO users?
Passive cable - 126W
Active cable - 231W



That thing is bigger than my server and uses more power

I dont care if it uses 36W with nothing plugged into it
I actually use my lan and its active 24/7

You clearly are being elitist and have no idea about the quality of switches
as you havnt tried them

I have been on the internet since 1994
and went fully wired gigabit with 3com Office connect switches in 1999
when i got broadband before that i had coax networking around the house

I have not once had an unreliable switch

Realtek Switch Platforms are super stable and always have been
Aquantia/Marvell Nics on the other hand are trash and should be avoided
i see people sh1t talk realtek all the time but they have no idea what they are talking about
its my prefered chip manufacturer as their stuff just works
they also provide long term driver support with no games played like alot do

There are NIC power requirements ontop of that old dinosaur's power use

Do you have any idea how much that pile of e-waste would cost me to run it
in the UK at about 60c a KWh

A RTL9313 Core + 2 x RTL8264B 4 PHY on the other hand will use about 36 watts fully populated
with 10Gbps nics

realtek networking has been around since 1987 mellanox on the other hand are newer to the game
realtek know how to make a switch for the target market at a decent power budget
and provide a fully mature switch sdk to oem's to compile
but your snobbery blinds you to this

 

[kapone]

A RTL9313 Core + 2 x RTL8264B 4 PHY on the other hand will use about 36 watts fully populated
with 10Gbps nics

I've got an SX6036 almost fully populated (36x 40gbps ports) using QSFP+ DAC cables, and it's at ~58w. When the downstream systems start pumping packets, that consumption will go up.

You're comparing the power consumption of a 36 port switch to something with 10-12 ports, and at 1/4 the speed. In this pic, it's ~3/4 populated, I finished the rest after this was taken.

Do you have any idea how much that pile of e-waste would cost me to run it
in the UK at about 60c a KWh

"A pile of e-waste" - is your opinion and you're entitled to it. Which is why I said, different strokes for different folks.

 

[Shonk]

I understand why you have gone with what you have gone with
and in a world where i didnt have to think about power budget and the size for home use
it would be fine

Im not the one who said " I don’t understand this fascination with no-name hardware. Especially switches. Especially these crappy switches "
in a thread about Mellanox switches

Keep to your lane man if you have no experience with them
keep it to your self

Also your using DAC's which are low power use
which are useless for home use apart from limited things by the switch

 

[kapone]

Keep to your lane man if you have no experience with them
keep it to your self

You're free to do what you want, and so am I.

 

[Shonk]

You're free to do what you want, and so am I.

Oh right i will get right onto sh1t talking in a Mellanox thread your in now
even though i dont have one or use one
i mean im free to do it right

As i said man keep it to your self no one cares

 

[kapone]

Oh right i will get right onto sh1t talking in a Mellanox thread your in now
even though i dont have one or use one
i mean im free to do it right

As i said man keep it to your self no one cares

Like I was saying..

 

[Shonk]

Its swag day bb
no £50 customs charge either..

Its made by Shenzhen HongRui Optical Technology Co., Ltd. btw..
the same as my Ampcom WAMJHJ-8125MNG

it came from korea not china for some reason
alibaba gave me the flight number and it was seoul south korea to bangkok thailand
when the box arrived it had country of origin south korea..

Have plugged it in quickly to test it

will take the cover off later and post pictures of the internals
will be putting pads under the sfp+ ports to the base
and checking the fan will be fitting a Noctua NF-A4x20 PWM tomorrow















10G BASE-LR LC-LC Duplex SM 1310nm 10KM Module


Xircom SFP+ RJ45 2.5G/5G/10G 80M Module (No 10m/100m/1G)


ATS SFP+ RJ45 10m/100m/1G/2.5G/5G/10G 30M Module

 

[pimposh]

 

[Shonk]

Breakdown of the hardware with photo's
will be pulling the heatsinks soon and replacing the thermalpad with Arctic MX4 Paste
and putting pads under the SOC, PHY's, SFP+ Modules

Hardware Manufacturer = Shenzhen HongRui Optical Technology Co., Ltd.
Firmware = 1.1.1.31 Jan 10 2025 - 07:21:26
PCB DOM = Week 45 2024
PCB Etching = PCB-510S-8T4XS-V1_0_1_21318
PCB Sticker = SUB00002378 038-21170
PSU Sticker = SUB00002249 EN-96-124WF 038-12641
Case Fan = ZYC-4020B 12V 0.10A Shenzhen Zeyucheng Technology Co Ltd (10th November 2024)
Case Warranty Sticker = May 2025 (lol)
Serial Number another odd one
SSTMTG8T4XS then Year Month Day Item number built that day
They seem to add 2 months onto the manufacture date for production/shipping stock sat in the warehouse etc..
Mine indicates 11th May 2025 Item 0001 (first made that day)
So my guess is it was made 11th March 2025 Item 0001 (4 days after i ordered it)


Switch Chip = Realtek RTL9313
PHY 1 = Realtek RTL8264B
PHY 2 = Realtek RTL8264B
GPIO Expander = Realtek RTL8231 (companion chip often used with RTLxxxx SoCs to extend the number of available GPIOs or LED outputs)

Nanya NT5CC256M16EP-EK 512MB DDR3L 1866 ( 4gbit ) #DOM Week 48 2023
Winbond 25Q256JVFQ 32MB (256mbit) SPI Flash #DOM Week 35 2021
Texas Instruments CKV304 Clock Buffer PCI-X Compliant
Texas Instruments LV08A 35KG4 D208 = Current Sense Amplifier
Q4801S #DOM Week 46 2024 Lan Transformers (between RJ45 jack and PHY to clean up the signal before hitting the PHY)
ADT7476RQZ = Onsemi PWM Fan Controller #DOM WEEK 23 2023
74HC125 = Buffer / Line Driver

Unknown Chips
4A35 ADC
JWXWJ 4R09M

Lots of Large photo's of the PCB

Switch — Postimages

postimg.cc

 

[kapone]

Why? I really mean it. Why? It’s a damn switch, and pretty run of the mill.

why go to so much effort to capture the internals of the switch?? Who cares??

 

[thigobr]

Thanks for sharing this data!

Do you have power consumption numbers? What about subjective fan noise?

A few months ago I tried an EnGenius ECS5512FP that's based on a similar Realtek platform but the fan noise was too high even in idle with nothing plugged in. Power was also not low at around 37W without nothing plugged in.

 

[Shonk]

Why? I really mean it. Why? It’s a damn switch, and pretty run of the mill.

why go to so much effort to capture the internals of the switch?? Who cares??

Hey man dont you have people to cry at on reddit
if you have nothing productive to say why open your mouth

 

[Shonk]

Thanks for sharing this data!

Do you have power consumption numbers? What about subjective fan noise?

A few months ago I tried an EnGenius ECS5512FP that's based on a similar Realtek platform but the fan noise was too high even in idle with nothing plugged in. Power was also not low at around 37W without nothing plugged in.

its a 40x20mm cheap fan so isnt great too noisy for a bedroom but not that loud
i already knew i would have to change it before it came
i have a Noctua NF-A4x20 PWM 14.9db @ 5000 rpm coming tomorrow it was £13

power numbers i will test it tomorrow after i fit the fan
i dont want to unplug it again tonight

Edit i got bored and was interested myself
this isnt fully setup yet im waiting on the fan and such before setting it up properly

On powerup with the fans going full pelt for about 15 seconds 16W

When the Following Links Come Up 23W
ROG Rapture GT-AX6000 Enabled Up Auto (2500M) Auto (Full) )
i9-14900KS RTL8126 Enabled Up Auto (5000M) Auto (Full)
i9-9900KS AQC113C Enabled Up Auto (10G) Auto (Full)
i9-12900K AQC113 Enabled Up Auto (10G) Auto (Full)
i9-12900KS AQC113C Enabled Up Auto (100M) Auto (Full) (IN S3)
WAMJHJ-8125MNG SM LC Duplex 10KM Enabled Up Auto (10G) Full (Full)
SKS1200-8GPY2XF ATS DAC 0.5M Enabled Up Auto (10G) Full (Full)




23W 10G Optical Pulled
23W 10G DAC Pulled
22W 100M S3 Pulled
20/21W 5G Pulled
18W 10G Pulled
15W 10G Pulled
14W 2.5G Pulled (Empty)

Looks to be roughly
2.5W-3W Per 10G port
1.25W-1.5W Per 5G port

 

[kapone]

Hey man dont you have people to cry at on reddit
if you have nothing productive to say why open your mouth

I can spot and smell Influencer marketing a mile away.

so, you do you, I do me.

 

[Shonk]

I just finished putting it back together

There's no need to pad under the pcb its been done already

the tape holding on the heatsink's isnt that bad
its a thin piece of aluminum with a thin layer of adhesive on both sides

I only did the SOC as it was the only heatsink with pushpins

I also put 2 NVMe heatsink's ontop of the SFP+ Cages

Edit
Putting paste on the SOC has only lowered it by 1.5-2.0°C not really worth it
the heat transfer material from the factory is ok

 

[Shonk]

I can spot and smell Influencer marketing a mile away.

so, you do you, I do me.

your an idiot im a fat nerd in the uk
who likes tech
just fk off troll somewhere else
you can look me up online in forums i have been on the internet since the early 90's
My Xbox gamertag is also Shonk

I used to do custom firmware for Buffalo nas's amongst other things

go look me up on the ocuk forum it took me like 20 years to get 100 posts
to get free delivery hardly an influencer

I made this account here 9 years ago just on the offchance i could pimp a 10Gbps switch in 2025

You literally make zero sense and have checked nothing
and are just going on emotion rather than facts and evidence female maybe? either that or super low T
progressive i would put money on it..
you havnt checked a single thing so stupid

Influencer lol as i have said i have been on the internet for a very long time
the only public info about me is my nickname no personal info anywhere
as the internet should be

If i was an "influencer" i wouldnt be pointing out who the manufacturer is of all these switches
and i would be pushing you to a specific brand

but no im pointing out they are all made in the same factory
and who has released the 8+4 version at the moment

as i seem to be the first person to get an 8+4
i have literally been waiting for this sort of switch to get to this pricepoint for 15+ years

this spec switch is over £1000 in the uk still

your trying to sh1t on my thread just because you are stupid

You can go look in the 8+1 2.5gbps switch thread where i posted the same sort of detailed info two years ago

You can smell but cant verify apparently

anyway man go away

 

[Shonk]

Just finished fitting the noctua fan
its very quiet now

Snipped the current fan cable about half way
Snipped a PC PWM extension cable's end soldered them together and shrink wrapped
all 4 cables then shrink wrapped them all together

The Switch takes Standard PC PWM fans now