Socket 2011 square & narrow ILM active cooling solutions

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Maxx_1150

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That's useful info, I have Dell Precision 5810 tower, with Xeon 1620, will upgrade to 2697A and I thought will need to put there Noctua NH-D9L to be able to cool it.
I just did that yesterday (Noctua NH-D9L on a Precision 5810 Tower) ... it works with the AM4/AM5 brackets that come with the CPU cooler. You only need different screws (25x4mm) to attach the Cooler footplate to the "idustrial grade" Socket 2011 narrow ILM backplate type used by Dell in the 5810. To accomodate these slightly wider screws, you need to widen the holes in the AMD brackes a tad (4mm drill bit or Dremel would do).
Use the black plastic distance holders (actually intended for Socket 1700) that are supplied with the NH-D9L ..
 

Maxx_1150

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I recently discovered that LGA2011 Narrow ILM is VERY close in screw hole spacing to AM4.

Often if you use a drill to slightly widen the mounting bracket holes, you can make it fit.

It will be rotated 90 degrees compared to AM4, but a lot of the time it WILL fit.

Some coolers allow for 90 degree rotation too, which may work, but then you have to pay attention to RAM interference.

I'm considering seeing if I can make a couple of Noctua NH-U14S coolers work with my old Supermicro X9DRI-F using this trick. Using the shorter Noctua secufirm2 brackets I may even be able to rotate them right, but it will be VERY close when it comes to heat-pipe/RAM interference.

It may work, it may not.
The "short" AM4/AM5 brackets for the new Noctuas are called AMB-12 and AMB-14 depending whether the mounting dimension spacing is 78mm or 83mm ... Just used a NH-D9L on a T5810. It works !
 

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Well, maybe it'S time to change the angle here ... moving to a top blowing solution might work here. I know that Socket 2011 NArrow ILM is VERY SIMILAR from its spacings to the AMD AM4/AM5 retention layout. There are many decent high TDP top blowers working with AM4/AM5 with a total height below 90mm. Some are even Socket 2011 square compatible ...

thinking about ...
Jonsbo HP-600, Jonsbo HX4170D, Jonsbo HX6200D,
Thermalright AXP-200R
SilverStone Nitrogon NT06 Pro V2,
upHere Gaming H85K6, H85KC6
Noctua NH-L12S, Noctua NH-L12Sx77
I got C14s in two systems with Narrow ILM. You have to email Noctua and convince em to send you a kit though. That's great cooler that helps with memory temps a bit.

Now that I mounted all my stuff, I have some spare parts up for grabs:
-Noctua D9DX i3 3U in "airflow across ILM" config.
-Noctua L65x77 - It technically uses same mount (two screws from the bottom). It should fit between memory sticks. Basically, don't run on board with sticks close to socket.
-Three mounts for "Narrow ILM". Check out D9dx manual, mine looks like C-Shape, rather than "almost straight bracket" - might come in handy for someone who already got Noctua cooler.
All in NorCal
 

Maxx_1150

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Thank you - I know Noctua very well. They are based in Austria, like myself. The AMB-12,-14,-13,-15 kits are available below €5 directly from Noctua via the "Amazon Marketplace". ..

Next 2 projects coming up:

1) Modding a "tower cooled" Dell Precision 7910 Tower, DUAL Xeon E5 v4 Workstation into a Top-cooled (in reality actually top-vented) scheme using 2 pieces of NH-L12Sx77. This uses a modified (e.g. "industrial" style) 2011 SQUARE ILM mount. From Noctua I already obtained 2 kits to mount NH-L12sx77 coolers on 2011 SQUARE ILM sockets. Unfortunately the 14cm Top coolers are too big for the Dell 7910 dual CPU workstation case. But these NH-L12sx77 should work. The heatsink and fan are even relatively "elevated" from the socket base, so at least I can let one of the airducts in place unmodified, the other one might only need a bit of tweaking.

Note that Dell has an "individual CPU" water cooling AIO Option here and this is also a "top venting" approach, so there is a "DELL vented side panel" officially available for PRecision 7910, 7610, 7600 machines. Have already obtained such panels and will use it with this build.

To adapt for the "industrial" stale 2011 SQUARE ILM mount, I'll have to widen the mounting holes in the Socket 2011 square brackets Noctua sent me with a 4mm drill bit and use the black "distance spacers" originally intended for Socket 1700 mountings. Using 4 round-headed screws with 4x20 or 4x25mm dimensions to mount the brackets to the ILM.

2) Modding a Dell Precision 5820 CPU cooler to something better than the shabby stock Dell cooler. This is a Socket 2066 machine, which shares the same dimensions with 2011 cooling solutions (can accommodate Socket 2011 coolers). Dell no longer uses the "industrial style" flush-mounted NARROW ILM but instead opted for a "STANDARD" Narrow ILM here.

The best approach imho here is using a CPU cooler with a 12cm fan and "slim design" that should fit into this case (total available height inside the case being around 15cm). I have the Thermalright Silver Arrow 130, which easily fits into the Dell 5820 case with its 130mm height. However the mounting bracket they supplied wouldn't fit on the ILM at all. Well, I ordered a Noctua AMB-12 and an AMB-14 - one of these should work and should allow me to mount this Thermalright CPU Cooler at a 90° angle (in fact blowing UPWARD the case). Then using some leftovers from the ABS airduct for the 5820 supplied by DELL to reconfigure the airflow so it would end up on the TOP LEFT corner of the system.

This looks preferable over any directly fitting Nocuta coolers (NH-DX9 i4) as the Silver Arrow has a TDP as high as 240W and produces 85CFM (max), while specced as 23dB, whereas the Noctua NH-DX9 i4 is only specced 46 CFM at the same noise level (23 dB) due to its smaller 92mm fan, NSPR is 88 here (NSPR is Noctua's verson of the TDP parameter, numbers not directly comparable).
 

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This looks preferable over any directly fitting Nocuta coolers (NH-DX9 i4) as the Silver Arrow has a TDP as high as 240W and produces 85CFM (max), while specced as 23dB, whereas the Noctua NH-DX9 i4 is only specced 46 CFM at the same noise level (23 dB) due to its smaller 92mm fan, NSPR is 88 here (NSPR is Noctua's verson of the TDP parameter, numbers not directly comparable).
Getting the highest and strongest cooling option is especially important for Dell Workstations with the Xeon-W CPUs (5820 and maybe also 7820/7920 which use Xeon Server Gold/Platinum Gen1/Gen2 chips), which imho are notoriously thermally under-engineered. The strongest W-22xx chips can consume in excess of 200W TDP. The standard DELL cooling option with its crappy 80x20mm fan would force the system into thermal throttle when stressed when paired with such a CPU. YT is full of videos on this topic.
 

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Thank you - I know Noctua very well. They are based in Austria, like myself. The AMB-12,-14,-13,-15 kits are available below €5 directly from Noctua via the "Amazon Marketplace". ..
If that response was for me, you'd need different brackets, that are not available from Amazon, but you can get them from Noctua.

Check out Manual for cooler that's suppose to work on Narrow-ILM:
It shows "NM-XFB4" to mount cooler along the memory. I'm using this bracket on C14s.
and NM-XFB5 to mount it 90 degree.

I assume for L12 on Narrow ILM you'd need first one.
 

Maxx_1150

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@TLN - Since I didn't use the D9dX-I4-3u but my NH-D9L instead, I used the AMD brackets that were supplied
with that cooler for Socket 2011 narrow ILM and modded them. This worked too. I know that you can
get brackets not supplied with the Noctua cooler from company by sending them invoices of the cooler and the
mainboard. Did that a couple of times in the past.
 

khatfull

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Since this seems to be a recurring question I thought I'd share my experience getting coolers for a narrow ILM SM X10DRH-iT.

I saw the post earlier in this thread talking abut the Dell 0YR2H3 coolers from the Precision workstation line. Inexpensive and effective. Seemed like a fine idea to me so I ordered a couple. Once they arrived I mounted them to the motherboard, and this is where the fun began. Long story short the base of the cooler never contacted the CPU. Here's why. The screws on the Dell cooler look like this:
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Note the length of the threads. If you look at the SM SNK-P0050AP4, this is what you see:
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The screws are WAY shorter. The Dell screws were bottoming out in the threads of the backplate before the cooler got to the CPU.

So I had one of two choices:
1) cut the threaded portion of the Dell cooler short and see how that worked
2) something else

I went the something else route. The screws in the Dell cooler are captured with an E-clip. I removed that allowing me to remove the screw and the spring from the cooler. I then hit the hardware store and got 4mmx25mm machine screws and appropriate washers. I then used screw-> washer->spring-> washer for mounting. It looks like this when mounted:
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It holds 100% fine, however it is very, VERY fiddly getting everything aligned and in position as the cooler wants to skate around on the nice slippery thermal paste. Having a second set of hands to steady the cooler very much helps. And, I was doing this in the case, which also didn't help. But, it worked out fine. My idle temps are 28C and 33C for the two CPUs and under full core load from stress-ng 55C-65C even after an hour. I'm pretty happy with the result since these two coolers shipped cost < $25 plus a few bucks in hardware. Half of me wishes I had gone the first route first and see if it worked but, oh well.

Here's how they look in the case:
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One other thing I had to do on the right cooler...had to remove the black metal shroud and reorient the lead wire to the opposite side so it would be able to attach to one of the rear CPU zone fan headers. Also, regarding the fan headers/connector. I did reorient the pins in the stock 5 pin Dell connector properly for the standard 4 pin PWM header. That also seemed to work just fine.

The case is a Corsair Carbide Air 540 High Airflow dual chamber cube case. I had to drill holes for the motherboard standoffs that I attached with a nut from the back side. You'll note there is no screw on the bottom right standoff hole. That one is positioned over a cable passthrough in the case. Fortunately no stress gets put in that area. It's a tight fit, so tight I had to use 15mm slim 120mm fans in the front to prevent blocking the rightmost RAM latches. The rest of the build is 2 x E5-2697A CPUs, 256GB ECC, and I have 2x200GB Intel DC S3700 enterprise SATA SSDs coming for the Proxmox boot drives (ZFS mirror) and two Intel 1.6TB DC S3605 AIC enterprise NVMe SSD for VM storage (also ZFS mirror). 1200W PSU. I was really hesitant to try a modded BIOS to be able to boot from NVMe, so this was my solution. The two WD HDDs in the pic are just for some weight in the bottom for now. I've also turned off the onboard 10G NIC because 1) it generates a lot of heat and 2) I'm very pedestrian and only have gigabit networking. Yeah, I know, poor excuse for a homelabber. :) I've been booting from an Ubuntu stick to get the fan thresholds all worked out before my permanant storage gets here. Also need some sort of single slot, full height GPU for a bit of passthrough. Still trying to figure that out.

It's been a satisfying build, needed some tinkering (what would one expect mating parts from one proprietary vendor to another proprietary vendor?!), but has worked out in the end. I'm happy with it so far.
 

kapone

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Apologies for necro-ing an older thread but...

PSA: The Dell Precision T5820 cooler is a slightly different variation of the T3610 cooler mentioned in this thread, although the dimensions are exactly the same (except for the outer casing being a bit longer). This is technically a LGA 2066 socket heatsink, but 2066 is dimensionally compatible with all previous LGA 2011 (Narrow ILM) sockets.

The changes are:

- It has a slightly different outer casing.
- It has shorter screws out of the gate that fit standard Supermicro motherboards. :) No need to mess with the screws, but don't torque it down like a mad man!

Looks like this:



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Goes by part #s - WP9JW DNP4M and potentially others and can be had quite cheap on fleabay.
 

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It appears to have a non-standard 5-position plug, but with just 4 wires (leftmost empty). Is it standard 4-pin PWM socket compatible, or would you have to move wires around?
buy a adapter from Amazon.
"dell fan adapter"
The heatsink has the standard Dell fan connector (5 pin with 4 wires). You can buy an adapter or swap the yellow and black wires, and chop off the little nib, and it'll fit a standard fan connector on a board.