Seagate Backup Plus 4TB Drive - Cheap 2.5" 4TB drives

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  1. Deslok

    Deslok Well-Known Member

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    I've only got 4 and none have failed with roughly 180 days in service but I bet we could pull some data together for a few hundred drives between us and get a good estimate but here's a form hopefully we can collect the data in one place, I'll publish the sheet in... a week or so and we can get some hard numbers then
     
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  2. Paul Roland

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    That would not be a problem for me, I can put many drives to mitigate that, using raid10 anyway.
    I was unable to exceed 50 MB/s in write. Still decent, my only concern is reliability
     
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    I have 6 here in my array and 6 in another buddies array and no issue to report, they are ticking along like soldiers!
     
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  4. sth

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    28 here, 1 non responsive.
     
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    27 here, but only 24 in use. Performance could be better attached to my Areca 1882i, but hard to complain about 100TB in 2U.
     
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  6. PigLover

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    24 purchased, 1 dead, 1 still in box as spare. 2x 8+2 raidz2 arrays + 2 others in misc jobs.

    Just the one death - and its not "hard dead". Works, but misbehaves in the ZFS arrays.

    I had no expectations of performance. The arrays are media backups only, written to with changes once per day. All the active data are on SSD.
     
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    Can you define misbehaves pls?
     
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  8. Deslok

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    How old are your arrays so i can add them to the form we're trying to collect some information on their overall reliability

    Seagate ARF Estimator
     
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  9. Deslok

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    Does the misbehaving one have a different firmware?
     
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  10. ridney

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    8 disks, 90 days old. everything working great so far. raid 6 xpenology
     
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    No. Same firmware. Drive was just throwing random SATA transport errors, etc., and FreeNAS would eventually drop it out of the pool. I would put it back on-line and the pool would resilver fine and run OK for a week or so, then the same drive would fault. It was a Z3 pool so I wasn't ever worried about the data - wanted to troubleshoot it a bit because I wanted to better understand how these drives fail. After 2 cycles of this I got bored and just replaced it. The pool has been stable ever since.

    Its entirely possible that the slot or cable was marginal. When I replaced it in the pool I used another slot in the backplane (I had a spare drive pre-staged there). I re-tested the drive offline using a USB connector from the cracked cases -it showed several hundred sectors in trouble. I did a surface initialize using HD Sentinal Pro and it shows perfect now, but I don't trust it so its on a shelf for emergency/desperation use only.
     
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  12. TType85

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    8 drives here, 173 days no issues. Used for media storage. Probably going to sell to go 8TB or 10TB drives as I am running low on space again.
     
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    Interestingly i just had one fail today. So that's 30 drives, one infant mortality, one hard failed in about 9 months.
     
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    24 drives 8 months or something? 0 fails. I'd expect 1 a year.
     
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    These have all been added, the reliability are not horribly only 2 out of 89 entered drives have failed at any point.(1 infant 1 after normal use)
     
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    Add 12 more to the mix from me, zero failures so far. (approx 7-8 months of use)

    2 failed out of 101 :-D, not too bad at all
     
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    It is making me feel bad that i have the two failed drives... :)
     
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  18. colbradley

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    Just registered to ask: are these drives reliable in a HTPC?
    I was about to buy 2x4TB red but they are VERY expensive for a poor student like me. I've noticed a few of you remark on the performance. But i'm only gonna be using them to stream my own private 2k/4k bluray, but performance wise are they up to the task?

    Right now I have 8TB using WDGREENS and they work very well, been on 24/7 for 5 years. But they need to be replaced due to age and runtime. Also i'm not gonna RAID, just use them as a single platform, ex 4TBHD1, 4TBHD2

    Thanks
     
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  19. BlueFox

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    Streaming media takes next to nothing (blu-ray tops out at a whole ~7mb/s). A 20 year old hard drive could do it.
     
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  20. fractal

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    The only drive I would put in a HTPC is a SSD boot drive. That is the only thing cool, quiet and reliable enough for my home theater.

    A more interesting question is whether they are fast enough and reliable enough for a NAS containing your media content. The answer from this thread appears to be "yes". Though, to be honest, given the choice between a pair if 8TB WD red drives in a mirror or 3-4 of these guys, I would probably go with the reds.
     
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