SATADOM cheap?

[Bjorn Smith]

Hi,

I am looking for some SATADOM's to replace either USB sticks or SATA SSD's - simply to get rid of either cabling and USB from my machines, but I am quite surprised that even small SATADOM's (16GB) are that expensive.

Is this simply because

• The market is small
• People don't replace them
• Because its a niche product and producers are ripping us off compared to a regular sized SATA SSD?

I would hate to pay 50+EUR for a 16GB SATADOM just because I can get a real SATA SSD with better performance, bigger and possibly same or better endurance for less.

Any hints on where to go look for good deals?

 

[Marsh]

This would not help , but give you idea
I am in US , Ebay
Innodisk 64GB SATADOM-MV 3ME Series w/ Connector, DESMV-64GD06RC1QC-B051

Innodisk 64GB SATADOM-MV 3ME Series w/ Connector, DESMV-64GD06RC1QC-B051 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Innodisk 64GB SATADOM-MV 3ME Series w/ Connector, DESMV-64GD06RC1QC-B051 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

$19.5 + 3.5 shipping , discount on shipping for multi units.

I purchased 4 SATADOM from the above listing.

 

[BlueFox]

Supermicro branded ones seem to be expensive, but if you go with Innodisk (who is the OEM for Supermicro as far as I recall), they are reasonably priced on eBay. 32GB or 64GB ones can be had for $15-25.

 

[gb00s]

I gave up on Satadoms due to regular freezes of the OS and failed reboots out of nowhere without making any changes. Experience comes from SM and Innodisk doms. I know others had not such issues and were/are still happy.

 

[Bjorn Smith]

I gave up on Satadoms due to regular freezes of the OS and failed reboots out of nowhere without making any changes. Experience comes from SM and Innodisk doms. I know others had not such issues and were/are still happy.

That is not good, hopefully I will not experience such issues (fingers crossed)

Are all SATADOM's compatible with SuperMicro's yellow SATADOM ports so they don't require external power?

If I have to give the SATADOM power, then I haven't saved any cables in my machines.

 

[Bjorn Smith]

$19.5 + 3.5 shipping , discount on shipping for multi units.

No shipping options for Denmark - they might not want to bother with international customers.

 

[i386]

Does the system have m.2 slots?
In Germany you could get a 16gb optane for 20€ or 128GB patriot ssd for 21€ (shipping not included)

I would hate to pay 50+EUR for a 16GB SATADOM just because I can get a real SATA SSD with better performance, bigger and possibly same or better endurance for less.

Maybe another point of view: sata doms don't take up 1(or 2 in case of redundancy) more valuable hdd bays.

(Inb4 just use the rear hdd kit from supermicro: supermiro has now some rear hdd/ssd kits that support nvme making these bays even more valuable)

 

[Bjorn Smith]

Does the system have m.2 slots?
In Germany you could get a 16gb optane for 20€ or 128GB patriot ssd for 21€ (shipping not included)

Maybe another point of view: sata doms don't take up 1(or 2 in case of redundancy) more valuable hdd bays.

Sorry no m.2 slots, and usually server boards only have one if they have one. And I need two for redundancy on my boot drives - im careful like that

Its not for a Supermicro chassis, just SuperMicro boards - and I could just have the disk lying in the chassis if I wanted to use normal disks - I want to get rid of cables if possible

 

[Bjorn Smith]

I Lowballed an ebay seller and he accepted $20 for 64GB Innodisk SATADOMS
But because of inport taxes, ebay's crazy shipping charges my 160 USD for 8 SATADOMS turned into 246.88 USD instead - but still a decent price for 8 64GB SATADOM's

Innodisk SATADOM-SL 3IE3 V2 64GB Internal SATA DOM SSD DHSSL-64GD09BCADCA-B157 | eBay

Tested, working.

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[Bjorn Smith]

These are the drives, slow - but hopefully they will just work inside my Supermicro boards without the power cable, since they have power built into the SATA connector according to the specs:

SATADOM-SH 3IE3 V2 | SATADOM® | Flash Storage | Solutions – Innodisk

Innodisk Serial ATA Disk on Module (SATADOM®) supports SATA III standard (6.0Gb/s) interface with excellent performance, and SATADOM-SH 3IE3 V2 is designed as the smallest form factor size that co

www.innodisk.com

And its iSLC (MLC with a twist), so I can probably write on them until the end of time

iSLC / Ultra iSLC Technology – Innodisk

Innodisk’s latest iSLC technology features an exclusive firmware breakthrough. This cutting-edge technology is equipped with BiCS5 112-layer 3D TLC NAND Flash, delivering an impressive 30,000 P/E cycles (program/erase cycles).

www.innodisk.com

And since I don't need the full 64GB size, I can under provision them and hopefully expand the longivity.

 

[BlueFox]

You should use a freight forwarder. Shipping that to Europe would cost ~$17 via USPS.

 

[Bjorn Smith]

You should use a freight forwarder. Shipping that to Europe would cost ~$17 via USPS.

How? I have never done what - do you have one you can recommend?

And I guess I would have to "combine" a lot of purchases then, otherwise it would probably be just as expensive to ship?

 

[BlueFox]

Living in the US, I've never had to use one myself (I've actually provided that service to a number of people here on the forums), but I'm sure you can find a bunch with a quick Google search.

As for shipping costs, if you have multiple things that you're buying, then combining shipping will of course be cheaper, however, I quoted a price to just ship the SATA DOMs. USPS rate is $17.40 for a package up to ~250g to Europe. Seems eBay is gouging quite a bit.

 

[Bjorn Smith]

Price    US $160.00
Postage    US $32.40
Import charges    US $54.48
 
 
Total charged to Paypal    US $246.88

You can say that again

And not only price gouging - they also have the nerve to call it "priority shipping" - where I have had packages from the UK take 14 days to arrive, when normal shipping takes less than a week.

 

[Bjorn Smith]

I quoted a price to just ship the SATA DOMs. USPS rate is $17.40 for a package up to ~250g to Europe. Seems eBay is gouging quite a bit.

Yes, but I assume the forwarders would also take something to receive, repackage and ship out the package and handle the export/import declarations that is required - so it might not be much cheaper - but its definately worth considering.

Thanks for suggesting it.

 

[BlueFox]

Sure, there is a fee, but not that much. No need to repackage if you're not combining shipments. Also, it's called "priority" because that's the name of the actual service offered by USPS: Mail & Shipping Services | USPS

 

[Bjorn Smith]

Sure, there is a fee, but not that much. No need to repackage if you're not combining shipments. Also, it's called "priority" because that's the name of the actual service offered by USPS: Mail & Shipping Services | USPS

Just looked at myus.com - and they want $60/year or 9.99/month - so you have to buy a lot of stuff in the US before it pays off I think. I assume other forwarders have similar fees.
But its definately worth considering if I am dying to buy something and they don't want to ship to Europe.

 

[Quartermaster]

Innodisk SATADOM-SL 3IE3 V2 64GB Internal SATA DOM SSD DHSSL-64GD09BCADCA-B157 | eBay

Tested, working.

www.ebay.co.uk

Thanks for the heads up! I made a the seller an offer

Did a quick search and found that these were reviewed here

 

[Bjorn Smith]

Did a quick search and found that these were reviewed here

Cool that means no cables Thanks