Yeah it's set as 802.3at but I can tell from the Brocade switch that it's only drawing 9Watts even though it's setup to provide 30w. It's a R720 and I have a DC adapter on order from Provantage, but who knows when that will show up. I will move it around a little bit to see if that helps, but it would be nice if it would at least run at 25w.
Router for Ruckus R720 + Brocade ICX 6450-48P, and other questions
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Is your brocade switch telling you the allocated as well as the consumed?
E.g. my R650 is allocated 30w but it's consuming ~5w right now.
I'm too lazy to setup an Unleashed AP to check, but under ZoneDirector when you look at an AP's configuration there's a setting "PoE Operating Mode" which tells you how degraded it is. I assume you can see the same thing in unleashed.
E.g. my R650 is allocated 30w but it's consuming ~5w right now.
I'm too lazy to setup an Unleashed AP to check, but under ZoneDirector when you look at an AP's configuration there's a setting "PoE Operating Mode" which tells you how degraded it is. I assume you can see the same thing in unleashed.
Yeah it shows the allocated as 30 but consumed as 9w. Under the configuration and then power consumption mode it shows 802.3at (after I set it to override the auto mode) but it doesn't change the actual consumption according to the switch. It also doesn't enable any of the other wireless channels and runs at 1x4 instead of 4x4 at what I presume to be the lower gain.Is your brocade switch telling you the allocated as well as the consumed?
E.g. my R650 is allocated 30w but it's consuming ~5w right now.
I'm too lazy to setup an Unleashed AP to check, but under ZoneDirector when you look at an AP's configuration there's a setting "PoE Operating Mode" which tells you how degraded it is. I assume you can see the same thing in unleashed.
Ruckus have quickstarts in their online documentation & on YouTube. But honestly, if you've setup any AP/router before then Unleashed is very straightforward.@ms264556
Is there a quickstart somewhere on getting one of these up and running with Unleashed? I've used Unifi and TP-Link Omada so am generally familiar with APs but need to run with SSIDs on different wired VLANs.
The hardest part will be getting unleashed onto the R600, if it comes with a different firmware. There's pointers to how to convert here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RuckusWiFi/comments/qckk75/_/hhgudq7
Well sadly after messing around with the R720 and Brocade 6450 for hours, I cannot get it to use anything over 802.3AF power. I'll just have to wait for the ac-adapter from provantage to actually ship. Not really the most user friendly experience so far, but at least connections seem to be more reliable.
I think most 802.3af poe injectors will work for the R720.Well sadly after messing around with the R720 and Brocade 6450 for hours, I cannot get it to use anything over 802.3AF power. I'll just have to wait for the ac-adapter from provantage to actually ship. Not really the most user friendly experience so far, but at least connections seem to be more reliable.
I bought a new ruckus H510 and trendnet poe injector, but haven't got time to test them.
I used amazon and got a cheap Cudy poe injector sent and it's the same story with it. Not that I expected a $15 poe injector to work better than the Brocade, lol.I think most 802.3af poe injectors will work for the R720.
I bought a new ruckus H510 and trendnet poe injector, but haven't got time to test them.
Thanks; my unit is supposed to be delivered today!Ruckus have quickstarts in their online documentation & on YouTube. But honestly, if you've setup any AP/router before then Unleashed is very straightforward.
The hardest part will be getting unleashed onto the R600, if it comes with a different firmware. There's pointers to how to convert here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RuckusWiFi/comments/qckk75/_/hhgudq7
Well my less than stellar luck strikes again, the port that I had my Ruckus on seems to be dead. I spent an hour trying to figure out why the Ruckus was down and outside of the initial configuration after a reset, was totally unresponsive. Moved the port and it works fine again. Ugh, not sure why the port isn't working properly.
I did a reset on the switch and set it back up and it still doesn't work. Plug in a computer to that port and it will only run at 100Mb/s speeds.
I did a reset on the switch and set it back up and it still doesn't work. Plug in a computer to that port and it will only run at 100Mb/s speeds.
I have plenty of R600s, from ugly to as-new. I bought another 18 very cheaply the other day, so I can probably send them for $55 to most places without losing money.@ms264556 - if you still have a couple of ugly R600's you want to get rid of, I would be up to purchasing them. It would be nice to have some additional coverage and to have a backup AP.
Be aware though that you have to run Unleashed 200.7 on everything if you have any wave 1 APs (e.g. R600).
On the plus side, 200.7 is very reliable, and R600s don't need any of the PoE acrobatics you've gone through with your R720.
If you're still keen, just privately message me. It'll take up to 2 weeks for delivery, and you can pay when they arrive safely.
So the USPS delivered the R600 a couple of days later than originally promised and I reflashed it to Unleashed 200.7.10.202.127 and put it in the place of my Mist AP41 with separate SSIDs for the two bands. Country code is US and set for Optimize Performance.
I then tried file transfers using my Windows laptop AX600 interface and a Linux server on a Gigabit Ethernet interface. On the 5GHz band, I can get 40+MB/s with the Mist (and with a TP-Link Omada at a different location) but am only getting 20-ish MB/s with the R600, sitting 10 feet away with no obstacles.
Laptop reports link speed in the 500-600 range and the core switch reports a Gigabit Ethernet link. There is nothing else on or around channels 98-114 InSSIDer tells me that the AP has chosen.
Anything I should be looking at?
P.S.: On the 2.4GHz band, it has chosen 9 with a 40MHz channel width :-(
I then tried file transfers using my Windows laptop AX600 interface and a Linux server on a Gigabit Ethernet interface. On the 5GHz band, I can get 40+MB/s with the Mist (and with a TP-Link Omada at a different location) but am only getting 20-ish MB/s with the R600, sitting 10 feet away with no obstacles.
Laptop reports link speed in the 500-600 range and the core switch reports a Gigabit Ethernet link. There is nothing else on or around channels 98-114 InSSIDer tells me that the AP has chosen.
Anything I should be looking at?
P.S.: On the 2.4GHz band, it has chosen 9 with a 40MHz channel width :-(
Is it just the one client with this problem?
There was a recurring problem with Ruckus Unleashed releases, where some clients get slow download rates. I guess the latest release of 200.7 has broken this again? (gah!)
I just whacked your Unleashed version on an R600 and set my country to US, enabled optimize for performance, and setup a 5ghz-only SSID. And I connected using a Surface Pro X, which has experienced the problem in the past (nothing else I own had speed problems).
With optimize for performance, I get very poor download speeds from fast.com (<200mbps). If I choose optimize for compatibility, then my download speeds are ~460mbps (it has chosen channels 149-161).
Sooo.... maybe try using the optimize for compatibility setting.
(My country doesn't have this setting, and besides, I usually set non-DFS channels when I setup an R600 for anyone since Fire TV boxes have historically refused to work on DFS channels).
Regarding the 2.4Ghz band, it's not so stupid as it seems.... I believe ruckus channelfly just tries out all the channels and picks the 40Mhz slice with the highest throughput. If you put in another overlapping 2.4Ghz AP nearby then the interference will make channelfly jump around find a better 40Mhz bit of spectrum.
There was a recurring problem with Ruckus Unleashed releases, where some clients get slow download rates. I guess the latest release of 200.7 has broken this again? (gah!)
I just whacked your Unleashed version on an R600 and set my country to US, enabled optimize for performance, and setup a 5ghz-only SSID. And I connected using a Surface Pro X, which has experienced the problem in the past (nothing else I own had speed problems).
With optimize for performance, I get very poor download speeds from fast.com (<200mbps). If I choose optimize for compatibility, then my download speeds are ~460mbps (it has chosen channels 149-161).
Sooo.... maybe try using the optimize for compatibility setting.
(My country doesn't have this setting, and besides, I usually set non-DFS channels when I setup an R600 for anyone since Fire TV boxes have historically refused to work on DFS channels).
Regarding the 2.4Ghz band, it's not so stupid as it seems.... I believe ruckus channelfly just tries out all the channels and picks the 40Mhz slice with the highest throughput. If you put in another overlapping 2.4Ghz AP nearby then the interference will make channelfly jump around find a better 40Mhz bit of spectrum.
@ms264556
Based on your post, I reran the tests with a Thinkpad T440S which also has an AX200 and it gave a 40+MB/s transfer rate! Changing to optimize for compatibility moved into the radio into the high channels and may have boosted the rate a bit but it might also be the placebo effect!
The driver on the faster machine is 22.0.0.6 compared to 22.40.0.7 on the slower one and I will downgrade the driver this weekend to see if it makes a difference though it was doing 40MB/s with the other AP
I don't have a very fast Internet connection so may have to set up an iPerf server to see what the iPhone is able to sustain with the R600 since that seems to be one of the clients that might have problems.
It would seem that the AP is fine for now so I will leave it running and see how stable it is especially compared to the TP-Link which sometimes drops link for no discernible reason.
Is there a place on the AP to look to see what link rate it is seeing during a long transfer to a client?
Thanks.
Based on your post, I reran the tests with a Thinkpad T440S which also has an AX200 and it gave a 40+MB/s transfer rate! Changing to optimize for compatibility moved into the radio into the high channels and may have boosted the rate a bit but it might also be the placebo effect!
The driver on the faster machine is 22.0.0.6 compared to 22.40.0.7 on the slower one and I will downgrade the driver this weekend to see if it makes a difference though it was doing 40MB/s with the other AP
I don't have a very fast Internet connection so may have to set up an iPerf server to see what the iPhone is able to sustain with the R600 since that seems to be one of the clients that might have problems.
It would seem that the AP is fine for now so I will leave it running and see how stable it is especially compared to the TP-Link which sometimes drops link for no discernible reason.
Is there a place on the AP to look to see what link rate it is seeing during a long transfer to a client?
Thanks.
@custom90gt
Just want to check did you manage to resolve this with the Brocade switch to negotiate 802.3at with your R720?
Just want to check did you manage to resolve this with the Brocade switch to negotiate 802.3at with your R720?
Sadly no, I tried everything I could think of and did countless hours of searching. In the end I just purchased the Ruckus R720 AC adapter and plugged it in.@custom90gt
Just want to check did you manage to resolve this with the Brocade switch to negotiate 802.3at with your R720?
From what I understand the Ruckus AP negotiate using power-via-MDI and brocade default is not enabled. Did you try use the command below? And let me know does it work for you.
device(config)#lldp advertise power-via-mdi ports e 1/2/4 to 1/2/12
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device(config)#lldp advertise power-via-mdi ports e 1/2/4 to 1/2/12
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I did, no change.From what I understand the Ruckus AP negotiate using power-via-MDI and brocade default is not enabled. Did you try use the command below? And let me know does it work for you.
device(config)#lldp advertise power-via-mdi ports e 1/2/4 to 1/2/12
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