Qotom Q10922H6 - Fanless N100, 2x10GbE, 4x2.5GbE

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pf740

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Because there is no suitable low power 10GBASE-T NIC from Intel that's modern and also reasonably priced.

The 10GBASE-T version of the Intel X550 supports NBASE-T speeds in Linux, but not sure about BSD. However, it's a power hog at 11-17.4W compared to the AQC113's 3.5W.

The X710 generation is much better in terms of power consumption (8.2-9.6W for a dual port NIC), but is also more expensive.
My ms01 pfsense runs a x540 for 10gb wan & x710 sfp to zyxel 10gb switch for the lan. It pulls 25-35w depending on what its doing..no issues with heat with my additional fan. I just like qotom kit as had it before so was very interested.
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My ms01
 

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My ms01 pfsense runs a x540 for 10gb wan & x710 sfp to zyxel 10gb switch for the lan its pulls 25-35w depending on what its doing..no issues with heat with my additional fan. I just like qotom kit as had it before so was very interested.
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My ms01
The MS-01 is definitely a great little box. :) It's not fanless though, so it's not really a fair comparison. Qotom needed a NIC that could be passively cooled.

Why are you running an X540 instead of using a 10GBASE-T transceiver in the second port of the built in X710? :) The lower power ones rated for 80-100 meters should work and draw much less power than your X540 NIC. It would likely also remove the need for that extra fan. :)

Your link is broken btw. :)
 

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The MS-01 is definitely a great little box. :) It's not fanless though, so it's not really a fair comparison. Qotom needed a NIC that could be passively cooled.

Why are you running an X540 instead of using a 10GBASE-T transceiver in the second port of the built in X710? :) The lower power ones rated for 80-100 meters should work and draw much less power than your X540 NIC. It would likely also remove the need for that extra fan. :)

Your link is broken btw. :)
My isp only supports rj45 10gb off the ont. I did try a sfp to rj45 module but it ran so hot I wasn't happy to leave it like that tbh.

I'll try again lol

 

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My isp only supports rj45 10gb off the ont. I did try a sfp to rj45 module but it ran so hot I wasn't happy to leave it like that tbh.

I'll try again lol

I figured it might've been something like that. :)

Can you link the 10GBASE-T transceiver you used? If not, was it rated for 30 meters? If so, those run very hot (upwards of 70°C), while the 80 or 100 meter ones tend to be closer to 35-45°C). They have gotten reasonable cheap now ($30-40). I bought the Xicom one below for $31 + VAT. There are threads about these newer 10GBASE-T transceivers on here that are worth checking out. :)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005961638364.html (You need to select the 80 m version)
 

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I figured it might've been something like that. :)

Can you link the 10GBASE-T transceiver you used? If not, was it rated for 30 meters? If so, those run very hot (upwards of 70°C), while the 80 or 100 meter ones tend to be closer to 35-45°C). They have gotten reasonable cheap now ($30-40). I bought the Xicom one below for $31 + VAT. There are threads about these newer 10GBASE-T transceivers on here that are worth checking out. :)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005961638364.html (You need to select the 80 m version)
Hi

So I tried one of these. Whilst it appears to work it runs super hot.

I was not aware the longer ones run cooler.... maybe its worth a go with a 80m one?

Thanks
 

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Hi

So I tried one of these. Whilst it appears to work it runs super hot.

I was not aware the longer ones run cooler.... maybe its worth a go with a 80m one?

Thanks
My understanding is that the 30 meter limit of the old ones was due to the high power draw. They were already drawing more power than the SFP+ specification allows, so pushing that even higher in order to support longer cable runs wasn't feasible.

The longer range ones draw much less power, allowing for longer range. :) Most of them use a PHY chip from Broadcom, but Realtek also recently announced a new PHY chip that will supposedly reduce power consumption even more (1.65W vs. 1.8W). It will probably take a while for those to become available though, and the jump from the 30 meter ones to the 80 or 100 meter ones is already huge.

I suggest reading the thread below:

 
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My understanding is that the 30 meter limit of the old ones was due to the high power draw. They were already drawing more power than the SFP+ specification allows, so pushing that even higher in order to support longer cable runs wasn't feasible.

The longer range ones draw much less power, allowing for longer range. :) Most of them use a PHY chip from Broadcom, but Realtek also recently announced a new PHY chip that will supposedly reduce power consumption even more (1.65W vs. 1.8W). It will probably take a while for those to become available though, and the jump from the 30 meter ones to the 80 or 100 meter ones is already huge.

I suggest reading the thread below:

Thanks. I'll have a look.
 

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My understanding is that the 30 meter limit of the old ones was due to the high power draw. They were already drawing more power than the SFP+ specification allows, so pushing that even higher in order to support longer cable runs wasn't feasible.

The longer range ones draw much less power, allowing for longer range. :) Most of them use a PHY chip from Broadcom, but Realtek also recently announced a new PHY chip that will supposedly reduce power consumption even more (1.65W vs. 1.8W). It will probably take a while for those to become available though, and the jump from the 30 meter ones to the 80 or 100 meter ones is already huge.

I suggest reading the thread below:

I know its slightly off topic but I have ordered one of the zyopm 100m ones for the x710 port. I asked and they said it should work no problem so I hope that's the case. £25 inc vat
 

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I know its slightly off topic but I have ordered one of the zyopm 100m ones for the x710 port. I asked and they said it should work no problem so I hope that's the case. £25 inc vat
You never know for sure with 10GBASE-T transceivers in NICs as I don't think they are officially supported, at least not by Intel. That's why they tend to pretend to be fiber transceivers. The lower power draw also increases the chance that it will work. :)
 

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You never know for sure with 10GBASE-T transceivers in NICs as I don't think they are officially supported, at least not by Intel. That's why they tend to pretend to be fiber transceivers. The lower power draw also increases the chance that it will work. :)
Well the x710 is embedded and it worked with that gtek one even though it was super hot so I'm hoping it should. Minisforum advised some time ago the 710 wasn't locked so fingers crossed.
 

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Well the x710 is embedded and it worked with that gtek one even though it was super hot so I'm hoping it should. Minisforum advised some time ago the 710 wasn't locked so fingers crossed.
Yeah, it likely works for the reason I stated, despite not being officially supported. :)

Even on an unlocked Intel NIC, I doubt it would've worked if it was programmed to actually state that it is a 10GBASE-T transceiver. I know that my Intel X553 NIC certainly didn't like that when I tried a number of EEPROM profiles on my Flexoptix 10GBASE-T transceiver (an 80 meter one). Thankfully, I had access to a FlexBox for easy reprogramming. :) I also have a Zicom 80 meter one as a spare, and that links up fine too with very generic looking EEPROM data (spoofed 10GBASE-SR).
 

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anyone tried installing something into the onboard m.2 key b slot? wondering if it has pcie lines and suitable for a wifi card or just usb. Specs says "wifi can be installed via converter" but no idea if they mean a converter to m2 key m or key b slot.
 

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anyone tried installing something into the onboard m.2 key b slot? wondering if it has pcie lines and suitable for a wifi card or just usb. Specs says "wifi can be installed via converter" but no idea if they mean a converter to m2 key m or key b slot.
I would try asking Qotom. They've responded fairly quickly to me (taking time zones into account). :)
 
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