PDB-PT825-8824 vs PDB-PT825-S8824

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That might be it -
The pictures (second on both) seem to support that -the ATX connector on the S is straight, the regular is bent one and seems double length ....

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That might be it -
The pictures (second on both) seem to support that -the ATX connector on the S is straight, the regular is bent one and seems double length ....
Here is the comparison on SMC's eStore description of both PDBs.
The regular version is 320 mm long 24 pin ATX cable vs the 160 mm on the S version. So folks like me that don't have Ninja skills of @Terry Kennedy can simply get the S version of PDB for better cable routing :)

Also, 825 PDBs are 19 pair (narrow) connector vs 216/826 versions are 23 pair (wide connector) compatible with 1280 & larger power supplies.

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Ahh the latter is very good to know , thanks for pointing that out !
 

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Also, 825 PDBs are 19 pair (narrow) connector vs 216/826 versions are 23 pair (wide connector) compatible with 1280 & larger power supplies.
Could someone help me with figuring out whether 826 PDBs are compatible with 825 cases? I'm completely new to server chassis, and just got a few 825TQ-R740LPB cases the other day, with nothing inside them. If I buy PDB-PT826-8824 - would it fit in the 825TQ-R740LPB cases (so I could then get 23 pair PSUs like PWS-1K28P-SQ, for example, and use them in my cases)? Or do I have to stick with the "officially" compatible PDB-PT825-8824, thus limiting myself to using 19 pair PSUs (like PWS-920P-SQ)? It just seems like the more interesting PSUs are all with 23 pair connectors, but I don't understand whether I could use them in 825-series chassis.
 

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216/219, 825, 826, 836 PDBs should be interchangeable. I think the housing may be slightly different even with the same model across chassis revisions. Look at the picture of your chassis and the one you are planning to get.

In one case I’ve swapped the connector assembly from the new one to the old housing. It’s held by just 4 screws.

Look at this thread for additional info on the small metal tab that you may need to bend slightly to insert the pdb in.
 
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Thanks for the replies guys, really appreciate it, not easy to google this kind of stuff without having at least some experience with server chassis, and I've had none so far.
In one case I’ve swapped the connector assembly from the new one to the old housing.
I won't be able to do this since I don't have the old housing(s), the chassis I've got are literally empty, only 3.5" caddies were included and nothing else. Don't even have the power/reset buttons and LEDs for the front. Hopefully PDB-PT826-8824 and PDB-PT825-8824 have identical housings, and I'll just be able to put the 826 PDB into my 825 chassis.

That picture in the thread you linked - it looks like you were mating 216 chassis with PDB-PT826-8824? The top sticker saying "PT825xxx" is a bit confusing though, and you said you had to swap the housings... So you put the PDB-PT826-8824 into the housing that came with you 216 chassis?

P.S. Would be great to find PDB-PT826-8824 listed for <$25, as they apparently were in 2017. :) Right now there's basically one listing on ebay for $90 or BO. PT847-8824 are available for <$50 new, seem to be even compatible with my SC825 chassis (at least the seller says so). But then that seller also says that they're for 19 pair PSUs. When I count the number of pins on the pictures, it's 27 though. Damn, all those Supermicro numbers are confusing, can't even find PDB-PT847-8824 on the official website. Figuring out SAS/SATA backplane compatibility is probably gonna be as much fun. :D
 

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And this is a picture of the same chassis I've got that I've found online, fully kitted, including the stock PDB. Looks like it's attached by 3 screws on top. Which means that even the PDB-PT826-8824 won't fit - since it seems to be attached by one screw on top and 2 screws on "left" and "right" sides?
 

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Hu?

You have three screw holes on your SC825 pictures at exactly the right spot.

Why shouldn't it fit?
 

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Hu?

You have three screw holes on your SC825 pictures at exactly the right spot.

Why shouldn't it fit?
I don't know, I might be not looking at it right, never saw any PDBs in real life, only pictures on the internet. Here's the original PT825-8824, that obviously fits (but only mates with 19 pair (more expensive) PSUs, which I'm trying to avoid and thus looking for a 23 pair alternative):
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3 holes, all on the same plane, easy fit.

Here's the PT826-8824, which is supposed to fit, but does not look like it will:
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Also 3 holes, but 2 of them are at 90 degrees. Unless they can be bent upwards - that doesn't look like a match. And even if they can, is the distance between those 2 holes going to be the same as between the corresponding 2 holes of PT825?

This is PT847-8824, which this ebay seller claims to be compatible with SC825, but I've no clue how to even approach attaching it to my chassis (and it seems to be meant for 27 pair PSUs?):
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And this is PT829-S8824, which was suggested via PM as potentially compatible, but I'm also not seeing how I'd attach it to my chassis:
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Again, I have 0 experience with this stuff, and looking at it simply as "do the holes on the pictures match?" , :) which might be naive and wrong, of course, and there might be something I'm not seeing.
 

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Based on the chassis pix 825 housing will fit. It looks like a 19 pair/narrow edge connector and will be able to use 920SQ and it should be more than sufficient for most use cases.
 

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Based on the chassis pix 825 housing will fit
Yes, PT825-8824 should fit, it is the standard PDB designed for SC825 chassis after all. I'm just trying to build a simple home lab setup as cheaply as possible. For a 4 node cluster, 4* PWS-920P-SQ would cost me $340 shipped, and 4* PWS-1K28P-SQ are $150 shipped. I'd like to get at least one or two spares as well, or maybe even just go with 2 PSUs per chassis, and that turns it into $680 vs $300. Considering how I don't have any PDBs in my chassis yet anyway, it made sense to try getting ones made for 23 pair PSUs, rather than buying the standard PT825-8824. While researching the possibilities, google led me to this thread and your post #5 here caught my attention - I thought I could get away with putting 23-pair PDBs into my chassis. Not sure whether it's even an option though, considering how none of the alternative part-numbers found so far seem to have the matching hole pattern.
 

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Depending on where you are planning to run these PWS-741P-1R may be an alternative. They are relatively quiet and platinum rated. Ofc not quiet as SQ. If these servers are located near a living space, 741 may not be suitable. If you want to try with one to see, they are relatively inexpensive $30 shipped.
 
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