P4510 1TB: Good or bad?

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  1. foogitiff

    foogitiff Member

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    Hi,

    I only find reviews of the 2TB and 8TB models. the 1TB model seems competitively priced against the older P3600 1.2TB.

    I could live with "only" 1.92PBW for the endurance.
     
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  2. T_Minus

    T_Minus Moderator

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    They are fine drives just lower capacity :D
     
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  3. foogitiff

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    The 2TB has twice the capacity, so it must be twice as good, no? :p

    I am mostly curious about IOPS and such. Usually performance is worth on lower capacity model, I am just interested in really how much worth they are.
     
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  4. ullbeking

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    @foogitiff I'm looking for an M.2 2280 NVMe SSD plus a SATA 2.5" SSD for a NUC, preferably 512 GB - 1 TB each. They are going in to a NUC so I am actually thinking that a suitable, value for money set, would be WD Blues. My NUC is essentially a portable desktop that I am also using as a virt host. But capacity is important too because it needs to be all-in-one, hence preferably 1 TB each.

    I have been looking at the Intel offerings too... an enterprise drive is unsuitable for a NUC due to high power draw and non-existent SLA, so I will be looking at various Intel SSD's, probably "professional grade" NOT enterprise grade.

    @foogitiff Intel SSD's are my #1 choice so if I discover something in my research that could be useful to you I will let you know.
     
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  5. ullbeking

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    @foogitiff I feel that @T_Minus might be giving out a nonchalant vibe, so I will weigh in with my opinion on the P4510. These are proper enterprise drives and are a good choice where reliability and PLP are important:

    IntelĀ® SSD DC P4510 Series (1.0TB, 2.5in PCIe 3.1 x4, 3D2, TLC) Product Specifications
    • "Enhanced Power Loss Data Protection" => "Yes" is a promising sign of a serious drive.
    I am currently purchasing SSD's for a virt server for colo. I am looking closely at theP4510 series, especially as you can get high capacity. I am considering purchasing 2x NEW 4 TB models which are currently on sale from my regular vendor :)
     
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  6. T_Minus

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    I was sharing my opinion ;) vs. linking to the spec that I figured he'd compared anyway.
    I run the 2TB variant, and as I said they're good drives.
     
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  7. ullbeking

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    You are indeed a straight shooter ;-)

    I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that the 8 TB SSD's were low capacity.

    I am purchasing a 1U Superserver based on the X11SSH-CTF board and it has 2x U.2 front bays. It's going to be a virt host that is as self-contained as possible. It will be used for many different experiments.

    I'm considering this layout:
    • A pair of P4510 SSD's for the fast stuff. RAID0 "feels" like the way forward but engineering isn't about feelings; data and reasoning is better.
    • A SATA DOM for the OS.
    • Optane SSD in the M.2 as a cache for the remaining six front bays (and perhaps SATA DOM).
    • Still deciding configuration for the remaining six front bays:
      1. 6x high capacity SATA SSD's
      2. 3x high capacity SATA SSD's each paired with its own 100 GB HGST SLC SAS2/3 cache
      3. 6x 400 GB HGST MLC SAS2/3 data drive
    @ullbeking
     
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  8. mmk

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    Having used some P4510s I'd say for writes they're about the slowest NVME enterprise drives around. I'd personally steer clear of these and buy almost anything else.

    Edit: although the RAID0 aspect of this post kinda makes it sound like it's not a very serious undertaking so perhaps the above doesn't really matter. Still not a fan of these drives though. Expected more.
     
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