Network switch recommendation for business poe must

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  1. alex1002

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    I currently got the Dell 6248 stacked in three pack. They do not have poe so I need to upgrade. Can anyone recommend me some good switches that I can get I need min 96 ports, would be nice to stack them and also 1-2 10GBE uplinks. I was looking at Cisco 3850 but a bit out of my price range right now.

    Reason for upgrade, going to VOIP system and need POE switches. The Dell 6248 still serve me great right now to be honest, but the down side no POE and I really need that for the new phones.

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    If they are doing the job maybe consider A rackmount Poe injector for them. Would allow you to keep your current switches and still use Poe on those ports that need it
     
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    I have been looking for some, but cant find any. And they seem super expensive the ones I found.
     
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    The ones I have used in the past have been from powerdsine
     
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  5. Stephan

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    How about two HP Aruba 2920 POE+ 48 port with 10G module in the back (copper or SFP+) or the newer HP Aruba 2930 with SFP+ built in and stacking via direct attach cable? With passive POE injectors you have a big power supply mess and no way to measure actual power budgets, let alone diagnose faults without an (un-)plugging fest. Phones will also probably support LLDP-MED to auto-detect their voice vlan.
     
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  6. Terry Kennedy

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    Powerdsine PD-9024G on eBay.

    A few comments if you're going to buy these:
    • The front panel is easily damaged. Unless the seller takes extra care in packaging, it will arrive broken, even if in the factory packaging.
    • Be sure you get the rack ears - they are pretty much impossible to obtain separately.
    • Part numbers with M have Ethernet management. Without M is unmanaged.
    • Part numbers with F are full power (36W on all 24 ports). Without F is a smaller power supply. It is very rare for everything connected to want full power.
    • Part numbers with ACDC support DC input and failover. With AC only is just AC power.
    • If you get a managed switch, PM me for the latest firmware. Older firmware has a bunch of bugs.
    If you mount one of these above a 48-port (2 rows of 24 ports) switch you can use short cables to connect the top row of switch ports to the bottom row of PD-9024G ports. Here's a picture showing that for the first group of 6 ports:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Since you said business and not enterprise you could consider Netgear S3300's.
    They are available with 48 ports (+4 uplinks) and stack up to 6 of them. You might need an additional psu each depending on your power budget.

    Not a really cheap option though.
     
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    Anyone recommend anything from Microtik or Unifi?
     
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    Using unifi's 10g l2 series here, especially since last firmware no issues any more.
    They're currently working on a stacking feature, which should go alpha pretty soon
     
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    I'd wait for it to show up in production firmware before buying. Over in the Ubiquiti forums, a UBNT employee said "For some strategy reasons, the stacking firmware is suspended in this release. the program might be resume in future release."
     
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    These two options are cheap, but they are better suited for home office or small business network.
    Mikrotik RouterOS is very unstable, notably on dynamic routing scenarios. While Uniquiti offers an amazing price for their wire speed switching, especially Unifi switches.
     
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    You guys suggest unifi switches?

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    Just be aware stacking is alpha at best
     
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    I found out, required is stacking and 10GBE uplinks 2x preffered.
     
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    How difficult is the CLI for these switches, is there GUI?
     
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    Super easy cli - it has a web interface aswell though if you need it.. i’d grab the 2930F though.. new gen to the 2920 and rund virtual stacking via the 4sfp+ ports available. Max number of units is 8 in a stack i think
     
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    S3300's can stack. Also found out the Cisco SG350X's are really nice, but not sure what your price point is...
     
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    Actual budget? If you are ok with used/refurbished gear I would recommend Cisco 3850's from a used reseller like curvature www.curvature,com (formerly network hardware resale).
    Everything they sell comes with a lifetime warranty. They also offer enhanced service contracts exactly like Cisco smartnet if you need things like 4hr replacement.

    Don't mean to sound like a shill, but for enterprise grade gear in an enterprise you can't go wrong with Cisco, and save a lot of money in the grey-market
     
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    I am being told the 2930F stacking can only handle 10gbe/20gbe stacking. I need the 2930M to get real stacking. Which adds to the price lots.

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    On the sg350x do you get the cisco iOS. Because it doesn't seem like "Enterprise" level switch more small business. Also how does stacking work. Does it use the 10gbe SFP+ ports.

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