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[cafcwest]

In my reading about this board over the last few weeks, I seem to remember it said that the VGA is run off the built-in BCM, but the DP and HDMI the iGPU of the CPU. So you may need to disable whatever iGPU options exist in the BIOS. Just spitballing - hope this helps.

 

[splifingate]

Yes. A lot of spitballs on the side/back/front of the case exist.

Disabling iGPU is not an option.

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I am currently in the process of adjusting BIOS settings, and I have un-plugged the DP cable from the MB.

Monitor connected to VGA remains, and I will attempt another re-boot....

 

[splifingate]

Still no success.

I inserted a random Radeon Pro W5500 I had here (connected the 6-pin PCIe power cable) and Ubuntu booted.

Really bizarre.

The A4000 Ada SFF was NIB, and I had great hopes for some serious (relatively, from my standpoint) compute power.

I originally asked, because others seem to have gotten nVidia AXXXX cards to post in this board....

On the bright side, the E610-XT2 works splendidly in the x4 slot

 

[ibeerens]

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Most things installed, incl:
4545p
H13SAE-MF
192GB ram (4 dimm)
RTX 2000 GPU (75W tdp)
VMs running (but idle)
HBA w/ backplane connected
2 m2 SSD
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What memory brand and type did you use?

 

[splifingate]

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Most things installed, incl:
4545p
H13SAE-MF
192GB ram (4 dimm)
RTX 2000 GPU (75W tdp)
VMs running (but idle)
HBA w/ backplane connected
2 m2 SSD
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What memory brand and type did you use?

Crucial DDR5 Pro CP64G56C46U5.M1081 (basically the same setup) as TrashMaster

We seem to be of similar minds, as my build seems quite similar.

The memory registers just fine, and (without the A4000) it runs perfectly. It still runs perfectly with the W5500 (powered via 6-pin from the PSU).

I'm using (trying to use!) a NIB A4000 Ada SFF, Crucial Pro 128GB, SKHynix P51 2TB, two SATA drives, and an Intel E610-XT2.

During my build, I only had an older Corsair 550W PSU on-hand (hoping that this is the culprit).

AFAIK, the A4000 SFF is bus-powered, and only requires 75W. I am intending to just use it for compute.

In dialog with Supermicro Support (extremely responsive).

I will try the new Seasonic Focus GX-850 I purchased this weekend.

This is just a platform to help me dabble in AI stuff...the A4000 Ada SFF cost me USD1K, which is prob. what is helping make me the most frustrated

 

[twin_savage]

@splifingate have you tried resetting all of your BIOS options to defaults by removing the CMOS battery for ~10 min? I had a really weird edge case on this board where I got a PCIe card to expose an oprom that would cause the motherboard not to post whenever it was plugged in. The CMOS reset fixed this and I found the setting that caused this and never touched it again.

also fwiw I'm running an A4000 on my H13SAE-MF using default BIOS settings without any issue.

 

[splifingate]

@splifingate have you tried resetting all of your BIOS options to defaults by removing the CMOS battery for ~10 min? I had a really weird edge case on this board where I got a PCIe card to expose an oprom that would cause the motherboard not to post whenever it was plugged in. The CMOS reset fixed this and I found the setting that caused this and never touched it again.

also fwiw I'm running an A4000 on my H13SAE-MF using default BIOS settings without any issue.

Thanks for the feedback. One of the hurdles I've found is what BIOS setting(s) I *should* and _should not_ change. Would love to hear what setting worked for you.

I have (tried to) reset the CMOS a few times to no success. Each time involved bridging the JBT1 pad.

I just powered-down the unit, and removed the battery.

I'll leave it like this till I get time this weekend to try again.

 

[UhClem]

... The memory registers just fine, and (without the A4000) it runs perfectly. It still runs perfectly with the W5500 (powered via 6-pin from the PSU).

I'm using (trying to use!) a NIB A4000 Ada SFF, Crucial Pro 128GB, SKHynix P51 2TB, two SATA drives, and an Intel E610-XT2.
...
AFAIK, the A4000 SFF is bus-powered, and only requires 75W. ...

Re: troubleshooting your A4000
Strip your build down to CPU, DIMMx2, & A4000
BUT, before that, verify that the A4000 actually works!
(Surely, you've got some other box w/ an X16 (phys) slot.)

 

[splifingate]

Re: troubleshooting your A4000
Strip your build down to CPU, DIMMx2, & A4000
BUT, before that, verify that the A4000 actually works!
(Surely, you've got some other box w/ an X16 (phys) slot.)

I tried for days with an old Dell 3070, but that was generally a self-defeating scenario (it would post, and Windows would "see" the A4000, but I could never get the drivers to properly load). I still have a bad taste in my mouth from that unfortunate loss of time&effort.

I do *not* currently have another comp with an x16

The purchase of the H13SAE-MF was what I picked, and is what I'm using to verify *shrugs*

I have a M2 Mac Studio, and a CWWK AL-4L mini-router.

Urhm, I *do* have an old Mac Pro 5,1 in a back closet (PCIe 2.0), but I can't remember if it works.

 

[splifingate]

I'm running an A4000 on my H13SAE-MF using default BIOS settings without any issue.

You have the full-size unit, correct? The one powered by the 6-pin power cable?

I'm hoping that the new PSU will boost the board to fully-power my SFF via the PCIe slot....

 

[TrashMaster]

@splifingate I just wanted to give you the most unhelpful response possible: I have a number of ngreedia cards I have attempted to put in that stupidmicro board and it likewise refuses to be happy. ;-( Luckily my use case does not require cuda - however this is an annoyance. I didnt put very much time or effort into mucking with it though because it was otherwise a perfectly functional setup for my use case (high clock speed low core count VMs) the pcie gen5 storage with nvme raid on chip however is screaming fast.

 

[splifingate]

@splifingate I just wanted to give you the most unhelpful response possible: I have a number of ngreedia cards I have attempted to put in that stupidmicro board and it likewise refuses to be happy. ;-( Luckily my use case does not require cuda - however this is an annoyance. I didnt put very much time or effort into mucking with it though because it was otherwise a perfectly functional setup for my use case (high clock speed low core count VMs) the pcie gen5 storage with nvme raid on chip however is screaming fast.

All data is helpful

Yeah; it's always either Easy, or a PITA. The H13SAE is a nice unit . . . it seems having different things correctly attached is where the MF part comes in!

I secured about five, different nvme heatsinks. The all-copper 8mm unit has worked the best, as it has fins aligned with the PCIe slots: I had to add some kapton tape to the trailing edge of the E610 pcb in the x4 slot to allow it to fit-between the fins of the nvme I have installed in M.2-C.2...

I have excellent air-flow in this case. How are the thermals on bare nvme's?

As for GPU's: I'm not wedded to any one thing. The draw of the A4000 SFF, however, was that it sips power/compute.

And the fact that it cost me USD1K!

I'm gana muck-around with things, later today, and see if the better PSU lets the MB deliver better amperage/voltage to the PCIe 5.0 slots

 

[TrashMaster]

have u tried putting tape on the latter half of the video cards pcie pins? dont ask me how I know this is a thing...

I tried an rtx a400 PNY NVIDIA RTX A400 VCNRTXA400ATX-PB 4 GB GDDR6 PCIe Gen 4 Graphics Card | eBay that works fine in every other server board. I have a 4080 super, and an rtx 4000 ada generation (also paid around 1k for that). all these cards work fine in other boxes, and i have no power or other limitations that would otherwise prevent them from working.

This has got to be some quirk of the bios/board and how they implemented the pcie lane switching logic for if-slot-x-has-<8lane-pins-then-bifurcate-else-force-x16pins...

 

[splifingate]

Update:

I was finally able to achieve post when setting the BIOS entry for the PCIe slot 6 from 'EFI' to 'Disabled'

Windows boots just fine, but Device Manager/drivers/etc. fail (this is a Theme, that I've found, across-the-many-boards (many, many *grrs*)).

Ubuntu fails to achieve login.

Void prints:

EFI stub: Loaded initrd from LINUX_EFI_INITRD_MEDIA_GUID device path
EFI stub: Measured initrd data into PCR 9

Currently d/l other OS's to try getting things to a cl...

 

[splifingate]

Update: Disabling IOMMU in BIOS was an additional key to getting the Ubuntu on the nvme to boot.

So-far unsuccessful getting the nVidia driver stack to a usable state.

But, at least the system posts, and lspci sees the A4000 Ada SFF...

Additionally, Prox 9.0 installer fails to boot *grr*

Would love to test the EPYC 4565P . . . I've been trying, but I can't (for the life of me) figure out how to install the Phoronix Test Suite.

1st World problems...

 

[splifingate]

I understand how to run PTS now.

Running multiple tests, I can't get the CPU above 76C (using an Arctic Pro 280 AIO).

The testing would definitely be more exciting if I could get the A4000 working...

 

[splifingate]

dont ask me how I know this is a thing...

How do you know this is a thing?

 

[TrashMaster]

How do you know this is a thing?

Tape fixes all (most) pcie post problems
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/1lo9ft4 "everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened..."

This one is an even more complete log of failures:

http://imgur.com/a/wCvBs2x

 

[splifingate]

Tape fixes all (most) pcie post problems
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/1lo9ft4 "everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened..."

This one is an even more complete log of failures:

http://imgur.com/a/wCvBs2x

!!

Since I'm gana have to remove the A4000 to get anything decent installed (first), I might try this. With Kapton, of course