Monero private pool?

[funkywizard]

Any interest in a private Monero pool?

Aeon profits on many CPUs are no better than Monero now, and it's harder to trade Aeon. I could see myself switching back and forth depending on profitability. Would be nice to be part of the same group effort here on ServeTheHome whether I'm doing Aeon or Monero.

I can donate a server if Patrick or another trustworthy individual wants to manage it. Or maybe it can run on the same server as the Aeon pool? I'm currently running an internal-only private pool. For security reasons, I don't want to open up that server, as it runs other stuff too.

At 40 kh/s, the earnings consistency on my pool right now is pretty rough. With the new servers I need to set up, plus if I moved everything off Aeon back to Monero, I could potentially get to around 180KH/s, which in theory is about 2 blocks a week. That's almost at a reasonable level, but not quute. If there's other interest here maybe we could get a pool going that generates 1 block per day? I think that's good enough to be worthwhile.

After my fiasco using minergate, and not hearing great things about other pools, I'm weary about using the public pools. But need more hashrate for a private pool to make sense.

Any interest in this?

 

[marcoi]

STH should make their own coins

It would be awesome if there was some kind of multipool that jumps between aeon and monero depending on which ever was more profitable at the time.

 

[Joel]

That's basically what nicehash does. Another questionable place though.

 

[garetjax]

I'd be game - I have my nvida cards mining zcash, cpu mining Aeon, and Vegas mining monero right now.

 

[Patrick]

I think we are too small to make a dent in Monero but happy to entertain. Right now Aeon is significantly more profitable (WTM is off)

 

[funkywizard]

I think we are too small to make a dent in Monero but happy to entertain. Right now Aeon is significantly more profitable (WTM is off)

I agree about not being a big player. Some hardware (such as vega) does better with Monero, so I and some others will have at least some capacity going there. So it's more about being big enough to consistently find blocks, and use a pool that's trustworthy and reliable, less about being a big player.

In any case, if whattomine is off, what should I be using? Are there better inputs to plug in there? I edited the block reward to 12.2 already. For Monero / Zcash profit calculations I've been using cryptocompare.

 

[funkywizard]

Plugging all the numbers on the pool (difficulty, Aeon exchange rate in BTC, BTC price) as well as a 12.2 block reward, I do see substantially higher profits than using their defaulta for Difficulty, BTC price, and Aeon exchange rate (still keeping 12.2 block reward)

4100 Aeon hash rate with those values shows just shy of $118/mo revenue. Letting WTM set difficulty, BTC price and Aeon exchange (still keeping 12.2 block reward) gives just shy of $110/mo revenue.

Cryptocompare for XMR at 1150 H/s (the most I've gotten on a Dual E5-2680v2), shows just under $102/mo.

Of course, these numbers do change minute by minute, but I do agree the WTM numbers are off in several ways.

 

[garetjax]

Ok I don't understand how your calculating this - I'm still a noobie.

If I go on minexmr's site and put in my 8kh hash rate they estimate .071 xmr/day - at current price thats $346.88*.071 = $24.63 a day . I've been mining there for about 48 hours and the .07 is pretty accurate.

With Aeon I was mining about 4 aeon a day - at current price thats $3.88*3.9 = $15.132 a day

What am I missing here?

 

[funkywizard]

Ok I don't understand how your calculating this - I'm still a noobie.

If I go on minexmr's site and put in my 8kh hash rate they estimate .071 xmr/day - at current price thats $346.88*.071 = $24.63 a day . I've been mining there for about 48 hours and the .07 is pretty accurate.

With Aeon I was mining about 4 aeon a day - at current price thats $3.88*3.9 = $15.132 a day

What am I missing here?

What's your Aeon hash rate?

Dual E5-2680v2 can do 1100-1150 h/s Monero and 4000-4100 h/s Aeon (power optimized settings) or 4200-4300h/s (all cores enabled)

Let's pick some typical numbers: 4050h/s Aeon and 1100h/s Monero. 4050 / 1100 = 3.68. Call it 3.7x

So if your Aeon hash rate is more or less than 3.7x your Monero hash rate, the profitability differences I'm talking about won't apply to you. Also the numbers change every minute and every day.

On a typical E3 xeon or i3/i5/i7 cpu that has less cache than Xeons, you may well see a bigger increase than me here. If Aeon is doing 4x or more the hash rate compared to Monero, yes it will be much more profitable.

 

[garetjax]

Aeon hash rate is 16000, Monero is 8,000 - 4 vegas not using my cpu which is a $49 celeron. I had been mining STH Aeon pool but wanted to try Monero with my Vega rig. Only 2 days into monero I'm at .14 paid (.07+ a day over 2 days) and with Aeon I was getting 4+ aeon, sometimes between 4 and 5 but all over. Even if I said on average it was 4.5 x $4 = $18 it would still be a lot lower than $24.63 on Monero.

I get it now - I didn't realize CPU was so much better on Aeon. Very tempting to build an EPYC rig but would want to run numbers on that - start with a dual low end 7301 etc maybe.

 

[funkywizard]

Aeon hash rate is 16000, Monero is 8,000 - 4 vegas not using my cpu which is a $49 celeron. I had been mining STH Aeon pool but wanted to try Monero with my Vega rig. Only 2 days into monero I'm at .14 paid (.07+ a day over 2 days) and with Aeon I was getting 4+ aeon, sometimes between 4 and 5 but all over. Even if I said on average it was 4.5 x $4 = $18 it would still be a lot lower than $24.63 on Monero.

I get it now - I didn't realize CPU was so much better on Aeon. Very tempting to build an EPYC rig but would want to run numbers on that - start with a dual low end 7301 etc maybe.

Ok that makes more sense. GPUs tend to only be about 2x faster on Aeon vs Monero. This makes Monero far more profitable for GPUs. CPUs tend to be 3-4x faster for Aeon, which sometimes makes Aeon more profitable than Monero.

 

[Iaroslav]

Nice idea, I think. A lot of us jumping from XMR to AEON and back.
I don't know why, but my AEON to XMR hashrate results are near 3 on all nodes with dual E5's (My 2680v2 setup pushing 1230 vs 3760). Based on calculations with a bittrex prices or real tests - almost all the time I checked XMR was 5-10% ahead in profit.
I'm in with 17KH on XMR or 50 Aeon as well

 

[MiniKnight]

Nice idea, I think. A lot of us jumping from XMR to AEON and back.
I don't know why, but my AEON to XMR hashrate results are near 3 on all nodes with dual E5's (My 2680v2 setup pushing 1230 vs 3760). Based on calculations with a bittrex prices or real tests - almost all the time I checked XMR was 5-10% ahead in profit.
I'm in with 17KH on XMR or 50 Aeon as well

Most calculators use older inputs. Aeon is 20-30% more profitable

 

[funkywizard]

Nice idea, I think. A lot of us jumping from XMR to AEON and back.
I don't know why, but my AEON to XMR hashrate results are near 3 on all nodes with dual E5's (My 2680v2 setup pushing 1230 vs 3760). Based on calculations with a bittrex prices or real tests - almost all the time I checked XMR was 5-10% ahead in profit.
I'm in with 17KH on XMR or 50 Aeon as well

Dual E5-2680v2 doing 1230h/s monero is higher than I've ever gotten (using xmr-stak). Meanwhile, 3760 for Aeon is low for dual E5-2680v2 (should be above 4,000. 4,300 is possible with all cores enabled)

 

[Iaroslav]

Most calculators use older inputs. Aeon is 20-30% more profitable

I calculated it by myself in excel and compared to real output in coins during the same mining time. Yes, there was period, when aeon did better, but not now. Maybe I’m doing something wrong.

Dual E5-2680v2 doing 1230h/s monero is higher than I've ever gotten (using xmr-stak). Meanwhile, 3760 for Aeon is low for dual E5-2680v2 (should be above 4,000. 4,300 is possible with all cores enabled)

I’m using xmr-stak with 24 threads and it shows me that 1240, maybe you calculate in another way? Aeon with xmrig showing max of 4000, but average rate is mentioned 3760.

 

[funkywizard]

I calculated it by myself in excel and compared to real output in coins during the same mining time. Yes, there was period, when aeon did better, but not now. Maybe I’m doing something wrong.

I’m using xmr-stak with 24 threads and it shows me that 1240, maybe you calculate in another way? Aeon with xmrig showing max of 4000, but average rate is mentioned 3760.

I'll give Monero another try on a Dual E5-2680v2 and see if there's any way I can get the hash rate up. 1240 is about 10% more than I've gotten before.