That is interesting. Never ran into this kind of scenario so can't really comment. It could also be the case of power supply noise coupling and Broadcom NIC happens to be little more immune. Would be interesting if you could possibly try another power supply and see if Intel NIC still drops link when dryer is operating.So anyone had EMI issue with their MS-01?
I’ve installed 10G NIC (Broadcom BCM57810s) because internal 10G NIC, in my case, when use closets dryer will drop links (tested both with DAC and AOC cables).
Anyone else with this particular issue?
I just replaced the paste on one of my three MS-01 w/ the 13 series i9 CPUs. I found the factory paste still soft and correctly applied (they've been running about 2 months now). I slapped some brand new ARCTIC MX-6 paste on the CPU and one of my Mellanox Connectx-5 dual 100gps NICs too. End result after 30 min idle (PVE shell, and SSH running ping on all four QSFP28 ports)? 1C lower temp on the re-pasted CPU and NIC! (35C to 37C on the i9 and 50C to 52C on the NIC). Basically a total waste of time (besides being interesting).Redid the thermal paste on my x3 MS-01 yesterday, boost clocks are now hitting 5.1ghz and havent heard the fan once.
The concrete paste they applied on the cpu in the factory is very bad, dry, badly applied to die.
Mail sent to minisforum.eu requesting that they refund my thermal paste
Dryers produce a lot of static electricity and humidity when in use. It's not a friendly environment for electronics. Worst case, static electricity can build up and short components and you'll be left with a brick.So anyone had EMI issue with their MS-01?
I’ve installed 10G NIC (Broadcom BCM57810s) because internal 10G NIC, in my case, when use closets dryer will drop links (tested both with DAC and AOC cables).
Anyone else with this particular issue?
On one of my MS-01 I can't "click" it all the way into the case or the power button will stay pressed in. If it's like that and I plug it in - the PC fan will spin up and then the system shuts down. If I back it out 1mm - no issues.Looks like I received a DOA MS-01.
I've seen some similar issues, won't boot into BIOS. Tried two sets of Crucial DDR5 SODIMM 5200. Tried all four chips individually in each slot as well. Womp womp.
Power button also seems stuck, or at the very lease very little travel. Even with shell off though, no boot screen even with del spam.
This was exactly it. The ram was fine, but the strangely long boot time combined with the button being compressed & shutting down it was a strange.On one of my MS-01 I can't "click" it all the way into the case or the power button will stay pressed in. If it's like that and I plug it in - the PC fan will spin up and then the system shuts down. If I back it out 1mm - no issues.
I'd try a different (brand) set of RAM all together and see if it fixes your issue. Do you have a PCIe card installed? Try taking it out, if so..
Good Luck!
100G NIC wow, to the moon and back in 1sec.I just replaced the paste on one of my three MS-01 w/ the 13 series i9 CPUs. I found the factory paste still soft and correctly applied (they've been running about 2 months now). I slapped some brand new ARCTIC MX-6 paste on the CPU and one of my Mellanox Connectx-5 dual 100gps NICs too. End result after 30 min idle (PVE shell, and SSH running ping on all four QSFP28 ports)? 1C lower temp on the re-pasted CPU and NIC! (35C to 37C on the i9 and 50C to 52C on the NIC). Basically a total waste of time (besides being interesting).
I'd say leave well enough alone - unless you have reason to believe a bad paste job, is keeping temps higher than expected.
And yes Mellanox Connectx-5 (MCX516A-CDAT) NICs fit (have to fight the back plastic a bit to install) and work fine.. I did need to tape pin 5&6 on the card, to get the other 48GB of my RAM back. I also cut a huge hole in the top and run 140mm USB powered fans (blowing onto the mobo). I used Mellanox MEC010153 ConnectX-5 Low Profile Brackets.
never had issue in the past 2 years with my custom ITXDryers produce a lot of static electricity and humidity when in use. It's not a friendly environment for electronics. Worst case, static electricity can build up and short components and you'll be left with a brick.
Can you share pics of how you mounted the fan? It would be interesting.And yes Mellanox Connectx-5 (MCX516A-CDAT) NICs fit (have to fight the back plastic a bit to install) and work fine.. I did need to tape pin 5&6 on the card, to get the other 48GB of my RAM back. I also cut a huge hole in the top and run 140mm USB powered fans (blowing onto the mobo). I used Mellanox MEC010153 ConnectX-5 Low Profile Brackets.
Not really.. I bought new cards for $380 shipped. You can get new 50gbps cards and flash them to 100gbps for around $275 ... used it gets even less expensive. I'm more excited about the Connectx-5 offload capabilities than the speed (the speed is fun too).100G NIC wow, to the moon and back in 1sec.
Super expensive card there, I bet it cost just as much as MS-01. I wonder what kind of use cases you have in mind.
Ouch.. in the life of me i cannot comprehent why on earth a game needs 3x100gbit connections... is the traffic so huge really?Not really.. I bought new cards for $380 shipped. You can get new 50gbps cards and flash them to 100gbps for around $275 ... used it gets even less expensive. I'm more excited about the Connectx-5 offload capabilities than the speed (the speed is fun too).
I'm using them (3 nodes) with Ceph. Just hosting a Minecraft server.
It was a PITA, since cutting holes in something already formed - is the one thing my metal working tools lacks ability to do easily. If I did it again, I'd buy a big hole saw and use the drill press for the fan hole (...or if you have a sexy mill) - (... or 3d print a new top). I did a much uglier jigsaw and vice method. The flow was;Can you share pics of how you mounted the fan? It would be interesting.
Thank you
I was joking about the Minecraft hosting (it doesn't need anything near that). I will host a game server (Rust, I think they wanted?) for my (grown) kids who live in other states... over my puny 1gps internet connection.Ouch.. in the life of me i cannot comprehent why on earth a game needs 3x100gbit connections... is the traffic so huge really?
Oh ok... im with you in the overloading things the salt of our life....I was joking about the Minecraft hosting (it doesn't need anything near that). I will host a game server (Rust, I think they wanted?) for my (grown) kids who live in other states... over my puny 1gps internet connection.
The over-kill 100gps dual cards - are for the Ceph network (port 1) and the other PVE "stuff" (port 2). 25gps is probably fine, however I found it only costs a tiny bit more to go 100 - so why not? My future cluster will probably also use the same cards and switches (inexpensive Mikrotiks)... so I was able to justify it to myself ;-)
It might also be the vibrations from a running dryer are jiggling connectors enough to cause the issue.never had issue in the past 2 years with my custom ITX
And this is open env, not closed one, so humidity is almost controlled..
Anyway using external NIC doesn't create any issue, i'm talking with Minis, i think this unit has some weird issue on internal NIC