I'm actually very frustrated by this because I just canceled my i5-12450H 2 weeks ago for the i9-12900H because I wanted more cores and vPro... both of which the 12600H has...
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The i5-12600H is new isnt it? With Intel vPro...
Interesting! I think for most home users is the i5 more than enough.
Minisforum MS-01 PCIe Card and RAM Compatibility Thread
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Thank you so much for the photos - it was very easy to just push a tiny screwdriver through the insulation since I knew where the screws were.
Luckily I'd watched a couple of videos first, so I was well away from the computer when my first gentle squeeze of the syringe shot out a stream of liquid metal. The stuff seems almost impossible to remove - my computer would've been a write-off if I'd been directly syringing onto the CPU. The stuff is sooo sticky.
I don't see the CPU jump directly to 82° when it's working, so definitely worth re-doing. I'm not sure though, how much worse those phase change sheets would be. I'm inclined to try them next time since the LM application is so terrifying.
Thx that you found the cable, i suppose it will work fine but what we dont know is how we will control the fan speed? the 2nd fan header i think is taking the temperature reading of the Nvme's so it will not ramp up if you want to cool a pci card for example...Guys, I'm exploring possibility of installing a 40mm fan. Can anybody confirm I can borrow 5V from the unpopulated min fan header using this adapter? And use Noctua fan on the other side?
That's a good point, haven't thought about it yet and I hate to reboot the MS01 to verify it in BIOS just yet.
From what I remember BIOS has two options in drop down menu, default being "Automatic Mode" that listens to temperature sensor and other is dumb or manual mode (will check once I reboot) where you can dial any speed you want, not the best way but still better than nothing. Temperature build up on that NVME PCI switch's little heatsink is bothering me and it's not even summer yet.
Ah you want that for this? i have put a 120mm Noctua 5v underneath the machine with a Usb to 4pin adaptor (my own custom made) and i just put the 4 elastic rubbers that Noctua fans have in their box in the bottom of the fan in the 4 holes and the fan sits 4-5mm from the ground and sucks air fine with the box on top.
My NVME temps are perfect now
P.S. They were ok with the default fan except when you pushed all of them for some minutes where the temperature started to rise above 50c.
Some new microcode came out a few days ago: intel-microcode_3.20240312.1_amd64.deb
Has anyone tried this? Does it improves P&E core stability in proxmox?
Mine is already very stable as I don't assign CPU affinity manually to VMs. But I think someone mentioned earlier some stability problem when assigning affinity manually. Not sure whether it got solved with the previous microcode fully or not.
So something like this and pulling air out?
Other option for me is to place this on the top grill and suck hot air out. Just not sure how effective it's going to be.
Good stuff. Anybody knows when this will folded into PVE Kernel officially?
I'm keenly looking forward to 6.8 Kernel drop on PVE to get official SR-IOV i915 (iGPU) driver support.
Yes something like that but with Noctua fan to be certain of the level of noise and CFM. Also from the side of the fan where the MS-01 lays on, there is no need for rubber feet.So something like this and pulling air out?
Other option for me is to place this on the top grill and suck hot air out. Just not sure how effective it's going to be.
Anyway what you found is cool for the spare parts and i will buy one but i will use a Noctua
And again the same old Intel where we loose speed if we pass the microcode updates to fix the new mitigations.. damn
Intel CPUs see slight performance loss with new security fixes — E-cores and Atom chips not hugely affected by RFDS vulnerability
It's not the end of the world for Intel CPUs with Atom or E-cores.
www.tomshardware.com
fwiw I did not have to do this on 2 MS-01 I have with this card with 96GB ram kits, but your mileage may vary I guessFYI, to those planning to use NVME PCI switch card on the PCI slot.
96GB RAM will drop to 48GB due to SMBUS sharing bug causing conflict with DRAM module, something Minisforum has confirmed. You must put insulation tape to cover SMBUS pin on this card.
Other than that card seems to working, running at ~55C (measured over heatsink) with open case when idling.
Same here. I pre-ordered Jan 31 3x -12900H, still waiting. Annoyed that I'm still waiting while others already playing with there's for weeks now.
Interesting. Let me guess you are not using 96GB RAM kit from Crucial? Perhaps there is address contention on SMBUS necessarily is not always in conflict?
one is crucial one is mushkin, both have that dual m.2 low profile pcie card fully populated as well as all onboard slots and all 96G ram still show, no smbus taping here. the mushkin kit is slower i guess, not sure why its not running at 5200
also pre-ordered one in january that I have not heard anything about. when they popped up on amazon i ordered 2 more and they showed up next day. basically i wont be ordering direct from minisforum ever again if i can avoid it
Hoping a Meteor Lake SKU gets released… they also have vPro now.And again the same old Intel where we loose speed if we pass the microcode updates to fix the new mitigations.. damn
Intel CPUs see slight performance loss with new security fixes — E-cores and Atom chips not hugely affected by RFDS vulnerability
It's not the end of the world for Intel CPUs with Atom or E-cores.
Some have said installing drives 2 and 3 will slow all the drives down to 2x. I am confused about this. it appears drive 1 is 4x drive 2 is 3x and drive 3 is 2x??? What is your experience?