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[wadup]

Situation: my nvme temperatures are going 75° (it can even go higher, even 86 ° which triggers a critical on smart). Im testing with "s-tui" tool and "stress" and 32 storage-workers.

Question: has any one been able to lower them to a safe temperature? Im just flashing to 1.02 (have manually set the setting JaxJian mentioned before). Any advice on howto lower the nvme temperature is welcomed.

Switchin fanspeed to max value 255 (needs bios 1.02)

Advanced->AMD Overclocking-> Accept->Precision Boost Overdrive
CPU Boost Clock Override: Enabled(Negative)
Max CPU Boost Clock Override(-): 1000

I set this values and I also switched both fans to value 255 for max fan speed to check what impact it has on the system.

• Idle | NVMe Temperature: 55-57 °
• Full-Load | NVMe Temperature: does not go above 75°
• Normal Usage with 20x PVE Nested on apt update: max 60°

Before I switched to full-speed fans I had those values in smart:

Error Information Log Entries:      0
Warning  Comp. Temperature Time:    41
Critical Comp. Temperature Time:    1

Error Information Log Entries:      0
Warning  Comp. Temperature Time:    44
Critical Comp. Temperature Time:    0

I will compare later If they will get more loggings of warning/critical temperature times

https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/minis-forum-ms-a2.47735/post-472155

I created a 3d print mount for 3 or 2 nvme drives.

I got a 10 degree drop on idle and even more under load.



This is the 2 drive mount



If enough people are interested I can post the stl's.

 

[proxforge]

https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/minis-forum-ms-a2.47735/post-472155

I created a 3d print mount for 3 or 2 nvme drives.

I got a 10 degree drop on idle and even more under load.

View attachment 44665

This is the 2 drive mount

View attachment 44664

If enough people are interested I can post the stl's.

I really would like to test this out. Whats under the black passive cooler, which does not get actively cooled anymore?

 

[omrij]

Hi, I see this in kernel log

[ 1.024637] i40e 0000:05:00.0: PCI-Express bandwidth available for this device may be insufficient for optimal performance.
[ 1.135204] i40e 0000:05:00.1: PCI-Express bandwidth available for this device may be insufficient for optimal performance.

is this a problem? the x710 (both) share pci-e 3.0 x4 ?

 

[wadup]

I really would like to test this out. Whats under the black passive cooler, which does not get actively cooled anymore?

Heatsink wont come off to know for sure probably the intel 700. its a little warm but not burning hot or anything.

 

[JaxJiang]

Hi, I see this in kernel log

[ 1.024637] i40e 0000:05:00.0: PCI-Express bandwidth available for this device may be insufficient for optimal performance.
[ 1.135204] i40e 0000:05:00.1: PCI-Express bandwidth available for this device may be insufficient for optimal performance.

is this a problem? the x710 (both) share pci-e 3.0 x4 ?

X710 chipset support upto PCIE3.0x8. But PCIE3.0x4 is already enough for 2x10Gbps SFP+ Port.
PCIE3.0x8 for X710 4x10Gbps Version.

 

[tahr]

trying to cool my hot nvme. planning to use smart manual on bios. which is better to use, system or SSD fan header?

 

[wadup]

trying to cool my hot nvme. which is better to use, system or SSD fan header with smart manual on bios?

system or ssd fan headers are the same.

if any of you have 3d printers this helped my temps a ton.

Minisforum MS A2 / MS 01 case by Kevin68 | Download free STL model | Printables.com

 

[tahr]

system or ssd fan headers are the same.

if any of you have 3d printers this helped my temps a ton.

Minisforum MS A2 / MS 01 case by Kevin68 | Download free STL model | Printables.com

so, do the system and ssd fan headers react to the same temperature source to control fan speed?

 

[wadup]

so, do the system and ssd fan headers react to the same temperature source to control fan speed?

No idea it doesn't say in the bios or give you the option to specify a source. I would assume cpu, the system temp is listed so maybe system fan is tied to system temp. No clue you will have to test or maybe @JaxJiang knows. I just set mine to manual and played with the speed until I got good temp to noise ratio.

The default fan layout for nvme drives leaves drives 2/3 out in the wind. If you are running gen4 nvme they get hot. I tried lots of things and 3d printing the honeycomb shell along with the mount i made so multiple drives controllers are cooled. I did add a small 20mm fan to the unknown heatsink @proxforge asked about to be on the safe side.

The above setup allowed me to keep the fan speeds lower, cutting down on fan noise, lowering temps significantly.

 

[hlab]

trying to cool my hot nvme. planning to use smart manual on bios. which is better to use, system or SSD fan header?

Just by removing the cover I am seeing a -5C difference in both cpu and nvme (idling).
That's a big difference.

 

[hlab]

lower temps are with the cover off.

 

[hlab]

Just by removing the cover I am seeing a -5C difference in both cpu and nvme (idling).
That's a big difference.

btw, I am unable to control the fan if it is connected to the system header.

 

[hlab]

Cover on and fan speed set to max.

 

[Jarilel]

Anyone know if Restore On AC Power Loss is coming at any point? I don't see it in the BIOS...

Restore AC after power loss function is in Advanced > AMD CBS > FCH Common Options

 

[mahdimc]

If enough people are interested I can post the stl's.

I am interested in the STL's, my SSD0 temps run to 74C even when on PCIE3 mode

 

[PnoT]

If enough people are interested I can post the stl's.

I'm interested as well

 

[wadup]

Here you go.

 

[MadFerIt]

Out of curiosity has anyone compared the temps out of the box (and with a negative PBO freq.) on an MS-A2 with a 7945HX vs a 9955HX? I'm just wondering how much of a difference there is between the two in terms of temps, ie if the 4nm vs 5nm cpu cores makes much of a difference.

Probably a long shot, I am tempted to pickup a 9955HX just to compare on Amazon but I try not to purchase items with the intent to return, but if someone has had both models side-by-side would love their input.

 

[falkebo]

Hi Guys.
I started a few days ago a project.

I wanted to build an 3-Node Proxmox HCI Cluster with 3x MS-A2 in an 10 Inch Mini-Rack, with each Host 2x M.2 Mircon 7450 Pro 2TB SSDs, 2x 10GBit Links (for ceph).

Long story short, I didnt expected the heat issues.
All Nodes are updated to BIOS 1.02, all X710 to 9.54.

The Systems are mostly in idle and have still those temperatures:


I already started to remove the cases, it reduced the temperature in general from 5-10 Degrees.
Does anybody have some creative Ideas? I think im okay if the fans get louder, the priority is to keep the temperature in an healthy state.

Should I tweak something in BIOS?
Can somebody recommend new FANs? Even if it involves 3d Prints.
Somebody an idea for the airflow of the case?

 

[JaxJiang]

Hi Guys.
I started a few days ago a project.

I wanted to build an 3-Node Proxmox HCI Cluster with 3x MS-A2 in an 10 Inch Mini-Rack, with each Host 2x M.2 Mircon 7450 Pro 2TB SSDs, 2x 10GBit Links (for ceph).

Long story short, I didnt expected the heat issues.
All Nodes are updated to BIOS 1.02, all X710 to 9.54.

The Systems are mostly in idle and have still those temperatures:
View attachment 44850

I already started to remove the cases, it reduced the temperature in general from 5-10 Degrees.
Does anybody have some creative Ideas? I think im okay if the fans get louder, the priority is to keep the temperature in an healthy state.

Should I tweak something in BIOS?
Can somebody recommend new FANs? Even if it involves 3d Prints.
Somebody an idea for the airflow of the case?

IN HW Monitor Menu Setting to Silent model will better.
And
There have a manual FAN MODE in HW Monitor MENU. Enable it.
MAX FAN SPEED IS 200. SET TO 200. will very loud, but very cool.