LSI RAID Controller - HBA Equivalency Mapping
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As JBOD all the drives are visible in OS ? but no SMART ?
I so need my M1015 to be able to help properly
Doing it via the M5015 is not easy
Did discover a handy smart tool for use in windows- smartctl
Install then command prompt: smartctl -i sda
sda = first disk (c: ), sdb = 2nd (d: ) disk etc etc
Indeed the M5015 does also not pass on smart info.
Ofcourse hard to pass info on when the drives are in an array
I so need my M1015 to be able to help properly
Doing it via the M5015 is not easy
Did discover a handy smart tool for use in windows- smartctl
Install then command prompt: smartctl -i sda
sda = first disk (c: ), sdb = 2nd (d: ) disk etc etc
Indeed the M5015 does also not pass on smart info.
Ofcourse hard to pass info on when the drives are in an array
My issues were solved by using the directions here:
http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=12767.msg124393#msg124393
despite what was stated in this thread before about simply flashing the 9240-8i firmware and the drives would allow for passthrough.
I can see all the drives under each controller and get smart passthrough perfectly.
http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=12767.msg124393#msg124393
despite what was stated in this thread before about simply flashing the 9240-8i firmware and the drives would allow for passthrough.
I can see all the drives under each controller and get smart passthrough perfectly.
Looking at the thread and it's instructions to flash the M1015 to IT firmware.
Did you flash it to IT to get the passthrough ?
Did you flash it to IT to get the passthrough ?
SMART data behind LSI Raid Controller
I have an Intel RS2WC080 -- an LSI 9240-8i clone, with RAID 5 key embedded. My card has NOT been flashed to IT firmware -- I have two RAID 1 Arrays on it, plus a global hot spare. I can get SMART data two ways in Windows. I have a copy of HD Sentinel -- www.hdsentinel.com -- which is Excellent. In addition, I have LSI MegaRAID Storage Manager -- Version 8.10.04 -- which shows the SMART data. Later versions of the MegaRaid Storage Manager have SMART data reporting disabled BY DESIGN (go figure).
HTH
I have an Intel RS2WC080 -- an LSI 9240-8i clone, with RAID 5 key embedded. My card has NOT been flashed to IT firmware -- I have two RAID 1 Arrays on it, plus a global hot spare. I can get SMART data two ways in Windows. I have a copy of HD Sentinel -- www.hdsentinel.com -- which is Excellent. In addition, I have LSI MegaRAID Storage Manager -- Version 8.10.04 -- which shows the SMART data. Later versions of the MegaRaid Storage Manager have SMART data reporting disabled BY DESIGN (go figure).
HTH
I must have a look at MSM v8.
LSI seem to enable and disable things willy nilly with FW and SW, quite annoying.
I would have thought, that all drive spin down and SMART passthrough would be high priority in servers
LSI seem to enable and disable things willy nilly with FW and SW, quite annoying.
I would have thought, that all drive spin down and SMART passthrough would be high priority in servers
SAS2108
Areca 1880 series
SAS2208
Areca 1882 series ?
'x' models with upgradable cache to 4GB is pretty cool.
Areca 1880 series
SAS2208
Areca 1882 series ?
'x' models with upgradable cache to 4GB is pretty cool.
Thought I'd add them all the same, they are distant cousins after all
Areca FW (nothing non beta, newer than Oct 2010) splits the FW, BIOS and boot parts of the Flash up into seperate files.
If LSI did this, we could make a up a FW with best bits, unlike now where the best bits are spread over OEM versions.
Areca FW (nothing non beta, newer than Oct 2010) splits the FW, BIOS and boot parts of the Flash up into seperate files.
If LSI did this, we could make a up a FW with best bits, unlike now where the best bits are spread over OEM versions.
I was going to post this in a new thread, but seeing as this thread speaks about the Intel cards I thought I may just keep it in here.
It's been a (very) long time coming but I am finally ready to take the plunge and buy a bunch of new kit for my storage server upgrade .
I have already previously bought a Norco 4224, a HP SAS Expander (thanks to odditory).
I am only using this for home use, mainly to store media and watch movies, so IOPS performance isn't really an issue for me. I don't really have the time nor confidence for ZFS… My media collection is kind of important, so I'm happy to pay the extra money and just get a hardware based solution.
I'd like to buy a cheapish HBA that is capable of RAID 6, and ideally I would like it to have two internal SFF-8087 ports. However, my budget is kind of stretched as it is so depending on how much more it is, I may have to settle for one SFF-8087 port.
Also, I would like to purchase a card that I can easily get again in Australia in case the card fails (not all cards are readily available here).
I naturally took a look at the LSI 9260-8i and 9260-4i and liked them. I found this thread and I am looking at what appears to be the Intel equivalent. These cards about $100 cheaper or so in Australia in comparison, and seem to be much more readily available so they make sense for me to get this over the LSI models.
http://ark.intel.com/products/42875/Intel-RAID-Controller-RS2BL040
http://ark.intel.com/products/42874/Intel-RAID-Controller-RS2BL080
However, I have a few questions.
1. Firstly, the maximum amount of "devices" the Intel website says it supports is 16 and 32 respectively, whereas the LSI controllers list 128 maximum for both 4i and 8i. I don't understand why this is the case?? Is there a different firmware I need to flash the Intel card with? The Matrix PDF that was posted earlier in the thread does not have this mentioned.
2. I assume the Intel cards support Online Capacity Expansion and all other features the LSI cards do?
3. Are there any other advantages of getting an LSI branded card over the Intel card?
Thanks in advanced
It's been a (very) long time coming but I am finally ready to take the plunge and buy a bunch of new kit for my storage server upgrade .
I have already previously bought a Norco 4224, a HP SAS Expander (thanks to odditory).
I am only using this for home use, mainly to store media and watch movies, so IOPS performance isn't really an issue for me. I don't really have the time nor confidence for ZFS… My media collection is kind of important, so I'm happy to pay the extra money and just get a hardware based solution.
I'd like to buy a cheapish HBA that is capable of RAID 6, and ideally I would like it to have two internal SFF-8087 ports. However, my budget is kind of stretched as it is so depending on how much more it is, I may have to settle for one SFF-8087 port.
Also, I would like to purchase a card that I can easily get again in Australia in case the card fails (not all cards are readily available here).
I naturally took a look at the LSI 9260-8i and 9260-4i and liked them. I found this thread and I am looking at what appears to be the Intel equivalent. These cards about $100 cheaper or so in Australia in comparison, and seem to be much more readily available so they make sense for me to get this over the LSI models.
http://ark.intel.com/products/42875/Intel-RAID-Controller-RS2BL040
http://ark.intel.com/products/42874/Intel-RAID-Controller-RS2BL080
However, I have a few questions.
1. Firstly, the maximum amount of "devices" the Intel website says it supports is 16 and 32 respectively, whereas the LSI controllers list 128 maximum for both 4i and 8i. I don't understand why this is the case?? Is there a different firmware I need to flash the Intel card with? The Matrix PDF that was posted earlier in the thread does not have this mentioned.
2. I assume the Intel cards support Online Capacity Expansion and all other features the LSI cards do?
3. Are there any other advantages of getting an LSI branded card over the Intel card?
Thanks in advanced
1) not sure on how SAS expanders work, but a 4i card you can only attach 1x SAS expander, with the 8i card 2x is possible ?
2) Yes, both Intel, LSI and also IBM versions of the LSI9260 have capacity expansion, and similar features (IBM does not have RAID6/60 as std)
3) Main advantage as I see it price, you can usually get an Intel card a little cheaper.
All LSI BIOS's work with OEM Firmware.
I think the Intel card is as close as it gets to the LSI9260, possibly even the same (don't hold me to this)
I'm tempted to get a RS2BL080, as I have a Intel SSD cache with Fast Path key, and sell the IBM M5015
2) Yes, both Intel, LSI and also IBM versions of the LSI9260 have capacity expansion, and similar features (IBM does not have RAID6/60 as std)
3) Main advantage as I see it price, you can usually get an Intel card a little cheaper.
All LSI BIOS's work with OEM Firmware.
I think the Intel card is as close as it gets to the LSI9260, possibly even the same (don't hold me to this)
I'm tempted to get a RS2BL080, as I have a Intel SSD cache with Fast Path key, and sell the IBM M5015
1) Basically a SAS expander acts as a multiplier... You are correct in that you can only connect one SAS expander to on the card directly (as there is only one port), but you could then "daisy chain" additional SAS expanders to the SAS expander originally connected to the card. Kinda confusing I know, took me a while to get my head around it.
Either way, the SAS expander I want to connect to it has 32 usable ports, and I need at least 24 for my build.
2) if they are both exactly the same, then surely this must be referring to something else. Maybe by this on the page:
# of Devices Supported 16
means I can only connect up to 16 expanders to the card, rather than 16 drives? Not sure.
3) Agree
Thanks for the input
So I have been thinking about this a bit. My basic thought is get the 8i version. If you need 24 drives, then I would personally just go safe and get something you know has capacity. You can always RAID 1 using onboard RAID the OS drives if you are using something like WHS 2011.
I usually have flashed over to LSI firmware on every LSI-based card I have owned in the last two years and cannot remember running into issues on supported devices.
I usually have flashed over to LSI firmware on every LSI-based card I have owned in the last two years and cannot remember running into issues on supported devices.
Has anyone got experience with the Cisco UCS branded LSI cards?
I started looking for the 9260-8i and came across a whole bunch of Cisco branded LSI cards and they are around $200 less than their LSI branded counterparts.
http://www.shopbot.com.au/m/?m=lsi+9260-8i&order=lh&p1=&p2=
They are PCI-E 8x, so they're not some proprietary format.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/unified_computing/ucs/c/hw/C460/install/raid.html#wp1017054
Are these restricted to work only in Cisco UCS kit in some way that is not so obvious?
Edit: Nevermind, all of those shops have no stock so I'll just stick with the Intel.
I started looking for the 9260-8i and came across a whole bunch of Cisco branded LSI cards and they are around $200 less than their LSI branded counterparts.
http://www.shopbot.com.au/m/?m=lsi+9260-8i&order=lh&p1=&p2=
They are PCI-E 8x, so they're not some proprietary format.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/unified_computing/ucs/c/hw/C460/install/raid.html#wp1017054
Are these restricted to work only in Cisco UCS kit in some way that is not so obvious?
Edit: Nevermind, all of those shops have no stock so I'll just stick with the Intel.
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Just out from LSI wonder how long before there are OEM versions.
Makes you wonder why IBM released the M5016 (LSI9265) when the LSI9266 is a much better solution with the extra's its capable of.
SAS2208
LSI9266-4i
LSI9266-8i
Makes you wonder why IBM released the M5016 (LSI9265) when the LSI9266 is a much better solution with the extra's its capable of.
SAS2208
LSI9266-4i
LSI9266-8i
SAS2008
IBM ServeRAID M1115 newer version of the M1015 ?
SAS2208
IBM ServeRAID M5110 LSI 9266-8i supporting PCIe 3.0
IBM ServeRAID M5120 LSI 9285CV-8e external version (LSI9266 but external)
IBM ServeRAID M1115 newer version of the M1015 ?
SAS2208
IBM ServeRAID M5110 LSI 9266-8i supporting PCIe 3.0
IBM ServeRAID M5120 LSI 9285CV-8e external version (LSI9266 but external)
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