LGA 4677?
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I just got a look, no other pictures taken. It seems that it's about the same size as LGA4189, but it has at least 2 dies, more pins and a different capacitor layout.
Thx for the reminder, I asked the one who have these and leaked that 14core icelake before and he said it's ok not to cover anything.
LGA4677 has a considerably different layout though (See attached diagrams - src: diagrams on imgur extracted from TE's documentation).
Those extra pads (The smaller, circular ones) are not primary data or power pads, but are used for auxiliary/debug functionality, such as fine-grained input power tuning, QC, or debugging. Intel does not include those pads in the LGA designation - only the primary pads.
IF this is sapphire rapids, it could be a very early sample not designed for production use, or for a specialized platform, however I strongly suspect this is not the case.
Rather, I think its probable that this is one of the MCM cooperlake chips (up to 56c per socket on the whitley platform) that was supposed to launch early this year but were suddenly canceled. Other known examples of cooperlake ES chips have those extra pads, both on cedar & whitley. The attached photos are of a cedar isles platform cooperlake xeon ES that was delidded (src: bilibili user yuuki_ans via leak finder momomo_us on twitter). Note that it too has all those extra pads.
Those extra pads (The smaller, circular ones) are not primary data or power pads, but are used for auxiliary/debug functionality, such as fine-grained input power tuning, QC, or debugging. Intel does not include those pads in the LGA designation - only the primary pads.
IF this is sapphire rapids, it could be a very early sample not designed for production use, or for a specialized platform, however I strongly suspect this is not the case.
Rather, I think its probable that this is one of the MCM cooperlake chips (up to 56c per socket on the whitley platform) that was supposed to launch early this year but were suddenly canceled. Other known examples of cooperlake ES chips have those extra pads, both on cedar & whitley. The attached photos are of a cedar isles platform cooperlake xeon ES that was delidded (src: bilibili user yuuki_ans via leak finder momomo_us on twitter). Note that it too has all those extra pads.
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its ice-lake with pre-final-heatspreader. you can identify that by places of the 4 PCB codings.
SPR looks like this
SPR
I still think it is a cooperlake-AP. Icelake don't have a dual-die configuration, at least on record.
nope, the cooper lake(14nm) PCB codings are different.
this is cooper lake PCB backside.
CPLfrom what do you conclude that it is dual-die?
cooper lake AP comes in BGA not LGA.
IHS is clearly divided into two parts. There isn't a reason to create a gap right in the center to reduce thermal transfer if it's 1-die.
its not cooper lake(lga4189-5), its not sapphire rapids(lga4677).
it fits into a LGA4189-4 socket (ice lake)
QTL1 is cooper. there are ice lake ES1 with QSxx(early 2019) and QUxx
i was wrong. seems intel made cooper for socket P4 first and changed later to P5.
QTQ2 = Cooper Lake-SP ES1, 32c(2x16C), 44M, 250W
Never know why they have two different 4189 sockets. Think the reason may be UPI/PCI-e pin distribution.
first the sockets are same. at both cooper and ice should run in same motherboards.
but then Intel decided cooper for 4/8 sockets(PCIE3, 6 ch-mem) and ice(PCIE4, 8 ch-mem) only dual socket.
they are just separated by using two different cpu-carriers, black(P4) is for Ice Lake and gray(P5) for Cooper Lake.