LGA 1851 Arrow Lake "Servers"

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Zervun

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What is everyone using for a CPU heatsink on these? I'm hitting a brick wall. The cpu socket is rotated 90 degrees similar to other server motherboard setups so nearly any 1851 regular heatsink doesn't work as it goes top to bottom instead of front to back out the rear. Since I've got this in a 4u case it wouldn't work right as it doesn't align with the air flow.
 

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This is what I used on my SM motherboard. It works extremely well with idle temps at 28F and fully loaded temps at 65F. It does allow for front to rear fan orientation.

 

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This is what I used on my SM motherboard. It works extremely well with idle temps at 28F and fully loaded temps at 65F. It does allow for front to rear fan orientation.

Thanks, so do you have it oriented so that the metal bottom plate of the heatsink that is a rectangle is perpendicular to the rectangle shape of the CPU? Not aligned with it? The peerless assasin one I think is the same way.

ie I was worried that putting it that way would not cool it adequately as the contact area isn't an exact match for the cpu as it is 90 degrees oriented differently. Obviously graphics below are exaggerated a bit, but you get the point

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Thanks, so do you have it oriented so that the metal bottom plate of the heatsink that is a rectangle is perpendicular to the rectangle shape of the CPU? Not aligned with it? The peerless assasin one I think is the same way.

ie I was worried that putting it that way would not cool it adequately as the contact area isn't an exact match for the cpu as it is 90 degrees oriented differently. Obviously graphics below are exaggerated a bit, but you get the point
What motherboard are you using?

On the SuperMicro X14SAE-F the CPU on that board is oriented the same as most other Core Ultra motherboards I've seen.
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Zervun

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What motherboard are you using?

On the SuperMicro X14SAE-F the CPU on that board is oriented the same as most other Core Ultra motherboards I've seen.
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Ah yes, lucky - the Asus w880 has it oriented differently =/ Why the hell did they do it this way.... I've got a Noctua NH-D12L on the way that you can rotate it. I obviously didn't notice that when I bought it, and almost went with the Supermicro... was just going to take longer to get here

Another thing crappy about this board is the 2x 4x4 Power plugs, had to get extensions for the Supermicro 4u powersupply as they are halfway across the board.

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You could always go with a liquid cooling solution since the fans are on the radiator and not the CPU.
Crossed my mind but I'm using a 4u supermicro case, so it would probably have to be external and take up space in the rack.
 

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Ah yes, lucky - the Asus w880 has it oriented differently =/ Why the hell did they do it this way.... I've got a Noctua NH-D12L on the way that you can rotate it. I obviously didn't notice that when I bought it, and almost went with the Supermicro... was just going to take longer to get here

Another thing crappy about this board is the 2x 4x4 Power plugs, had to get extensions for the Supermicro 4u powersupply as they are halfway across the board.

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it's very common for server motherboards to have the RAM slots run horizontally rather than vertically. it allows better airflow over the RAM.
 
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You know if you have a 3D printer or just some skill with cardboard and zipties the fans on those tower coolers don't have to point the way the manufacturer attaches them, they could do a pretty good job blowing sideways if you add a baffle between the tower sections and maybe a partial shroud around the outside to convince the air to flow through the fins.
 

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You know if you have a 3D printer or just some skill with cardboard and zipties the fans on those tower coolers don't have to point the way the manufacturer attaches them, they could do a pretty good job blowing sideways if you add a baffle between the tower sections and maybe a partial shroud around the outside to convince the air to flow through the fins.
Thats next step if this noctua doesn't work (looks like it will comes tomorrow). Unfortunately the top side is where possible Sata/u.2 mounting is and bottom close to the PCIE cards - the heatsinks are pretty massive.

I have a Prusa but my 3d printing design skillz have a lot to be desired ;)
 
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it's very common for server motherboards to have the RAM slots run horizontally rather than vertically. it allows better airflow over the RAM.
Ya, all my other motherboards (dual proc etc) ones are like that - good point on the ram cooling never thought of that. The server mobos by default just had heatsinks/baffle with no fans. Just didn't expect to see it on the w880 board but it does bridge the gap between server and desktop board.
 

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Anyone got any tips on where to find any decent 2x 32 or 2x 48 ECC Udimm sticks for these? Not many options and out of stock everywhere, at fairly insane prices.

The Asus w880 has very limited ECC on their compatibility list 32GB or greater. Found slight availability for kingston sticks, but not on the list (not that that has stopped me before)

With RAM and even SSD and hard drive prices becoming insane. The only hack would be to buy a preconfigured computer built and sitting on a shelf before the RAM prices skyrocketed.

I know some people are buying a lower-grade box (not the 32GB or 48GB sticks being asked about) by purchasing from Costco and harvesting the RAM and SSD drives at a savings for less than a standalone package of RAM. There are also some used options on Craigslist etc..
 

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With RAM and even SSD and hard drive prices becoming insane. The only hack would be to buy a preconfigured computer built and sitting on a shelf before the RAM prices skyrocketed.

I know some people are buying a lower-grade box (not the 32GB or 48GB sticks being asked about) by purchasing from Costco and harvesting the RAM and SSD drives at a savings for less than a standalone package of RAM. There are also some used options on Craigslist etc..
I ended up ponying up 820~ bucks for 96gigs of ECC =/ from mem-store about two weeks back. Checked today and it's already at nearly 1k. Sad state of afairs as it's probably going to be a good 1.5 - 2 years of future increases.
 
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Zervun

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I'm using 4 x Kingston DDR5 32GB 4800MHz ECC KSM48E40BD8KM-32HM

I originally had two of those in my X13SAE-F and just brought them over to the X14SAE-F as they can now run at full rate on that platform. Then bought two more off eBay a few months ago.
Was there anything special you did to get the 4 sticks working? I've got 4 sticks of 48gb from mem-store and they work as each pair, but I can't get them to post with 4 of them.

I've dropped the speed down to 4400 instead of auto (as per Supermicros manual) but can't get it to work. The supermicro board does not have any timing settings I can tweak.
 

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Was there anything special you did to get the 4 sticks working? I've got 4 sticks of 48gb from mem-store and they work as each pair, but I can't get them to post with 4 of them.

I've dropped the speed down to 4400 instead of auto (as per Supermicros manual) but can't get it to work. The supermicro board does not have any timing settings I can tweak.
I thought you had the ASUS board as you mentioned above? I did not have to do anything to get the memory I have (4 x 32GB) to work. The X14SAE-F does support 4 sticks of 48GB according to the manual.
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