LGA 1851 Arrow Lake "Servers"

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Playing around with an dell micro optiplex atm with an Ultra 5 235T 35watter and its so lovely to see 15-25 watts in general surfing/YT watching, yet still have the power and speed of a more higher end type PC. Does boost to 40-60 watts with more load ie app loading or unraring etc but then can ramp back down to roughly 15-25watts. When left sitting in desktop windows 11, am seeing as low as 7.4-9watts.

The arrow lake is good energy efficient.

This is with default hardware and just 1 nvme drive mind.

The heatsink is barely luke warm with the standard blower on it so this cpu feels like it has good thermal performance. I should try and run it with a silent noctua on top.
 
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FYI for all interested in buying boards from SuperMicro - the sooner you buy the better.
Supermicro has stopped selling "components" alone.

Been talking to Supermicro guys and it looks like that they are trying to move into "premium" segment selling whole machines.
 
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I've purchased all of the parts needed for my Arrow Lake server build and started to put it together today. I had it powered up and running and was checking out the BIOS and noticed that SuperMicro shipped my X14SAE-F with version 1.0 of the BIOS. So I downloaded and installed the most recent BIOS version v1.1 using their flash.nsh (SAA.efi) tool via EFI.

The BIOS update process took about 5 mins to complete, said it was successful, and the motherboard rebooted. When came back up it briefly displayed BIOS v1.0 at the boot screen, then shutdown again and did not power on again. The power switch would not turn the motherboard back on, so I cycled the power supply and the motherboard powered back up.

But now the IPMI is saying "PEI -- Could Not Find Recovery Image... 07"

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I think the BIOS update bricked the board.
 
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For those of you who have a X14SAE-F, have you tried running CPU-Z, HWiNFO or HWMonitor? Each time I try to run these utilities the system crashes with a CATERR. This has occurred in both Windows 11 (25H2) and Windows Server 2025.

- SuperMicro X14SAE-F
- Intel Core Ultra 7 Desktop Processor 265K
- Kingston DDR5 32GB 4800MHz ECC KSM48E40BD8KM-32HM (x2)
- BIOS is on version 1.1
- BMC is on version 01.01.19.02
- All drivers from the SuperMicro X14SAE-F support site have been loaded successfully.

Troubleshooting steps completed:
- BIOS set back to Optimized Defaults
- Tested with Secure Boot ON and OFF
- Ran memtest86: No CPU or Memory errors
- Updated all drivers to latest Intel versions
- Swapped power supply
- Swapped memory

With Windows 11 when the system crashes, there is no BSOD.
With Windows Server 2025 when the system crashes, there is a BSOD that displays “clock watchdog timeout”.

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X14SAE-F CATERR LED.jpg
 
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Vidmo said:
This has occurred in both Windows 11 (25H2) and Windows Server 2025.
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note W11/Server2025 runs Virtual based Security. CPU-Z/HWinfo etc runs in a Virt.machine.
have you tried actual HWinfo64 version ?
old version crashes sometimes on other systems with W11 as well.
W11 25H2 has stilll some issues.
 
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I've been monitoring the CPU temps with CoreTemp and via the BMC and they have been just fine. ~30C range.

CPU-Z, HWiNFO64 and HWMonitor were all causing the CATERR.

UPDATE: sometime since I posted that last message the system completely shutdown and now when I try to bring it online it lights the CATERR LED right away and does not even boot. Pulled the NVME and a single stick of ram and checked the CPU/heatsink. No dice. Its dead.
 
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i guess you have major problem with CPU or motherboard.
CPU-Z, HWiNFO and HWMonitor are going deeeeeeeeeeeep inside (driver w. direct access of MSR/CSR)
 
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RolloZ170 said:
i guess you have major problem with CPU or motherboard.
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Ya, that's an understatement. I'll replace the CPU first and see what happens. I do have a ticket open with SM to see what they say.
 
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OK, more troubleshooting this issue.

- I removed and reset the CPU in the socket.
- I double checked all the pins in the socket, they are good, no bent or missing pins
- I installed a different air based cooler.
- The system is completely stable even at running high load tasks, so I do not think that the CPU is the issue.

The motherboard locks up when any of these tools are used: CPU-Z, HWiNFO or HWMonitor. Below another example of where it locks up when using HWiNFO.
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Side note: it looks like the BMC (via web based IMPI) can no longer see the sensor readings after one of these lockups caused by the above utilities. I re-booted the system after the lockup (but did not power down the BMC), and now the BMC sensor monitoring is broken.

It seems like the utilities are somehow breaking the communication between the motherboard and the BMC and either the MB throws the CATERR or the BMC does.
BMC Sensors are Broken.png
 
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Updated to the latest versions of each utility and still seeing the same CATERR result. Supermicro support is finally looking into this now.

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