I've changed the CPU for a I5-9500 and also the power supply to 90W. Have you too ?
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I used a i5 9400 and a NVidia T400 with a 135w psu, In then end I swapped the 9400 for a 9600T because it was free. The 65w heatsink and fan is designed to be used with Lenovo's GPU heatsink that comes with the Nvidia P1000 (part number 02CW392), there doesn't seem to be any benefit otherwise.
This was in a P330 and a M920q though which I believe has a different power delivery circuit than the m720q so your mileage may vary.
That seems to be expected behaviour as Lenovo sells the tiny 5 motherboards with different power ratings (either 35w or 65w), when I look at Lenovo uk all the M720Q boards are rated at 35w so I would assume its a motherboard power limit not thermal. Most modern cpus have different power levels that can be sustained for certain time intervals which is likely why you can briefly pull 60w.
Power levels are referred to as PL1 and PL2 in throttlestop for example and both have a time duration.
Has anyone run into an issue with M920Q vpro where vpro just stops responding to requests? I wonder if it's related to AMT stops responding via network - DHCP IP Address missing but I'm on the latest Intel ME firmware. At least for what Lenovo provides...
I don't think you're an idiot.
I don't see any reference to this either. If you're using Linux do the interface assignments give any clues? (I've lost track of what era we're in of interface naming being meaningful/not meaningful though.) Or you could populate one and then the other and look for differences in dmesg.To be honest I can't really see what performance benefit you would be able to get, PCIe 4.0 X4 is plenty fast whether it is in performance mode or not. I get that you want to take whatever benefit you can get since it's there for "free," but I think as soon as you've spent an hour trying to find the answer you've spent more value in time than the gain it will give you.
I have been meaning to ask this question for a while now, long time lurker first time poster. Have been looking to build a couple riser cards, originally for myself (6 machines) then I noticed on the Home Operations discord that others, especially Europe based users who were also interested, we all run k8s at home, the m720q, m920q are the de facto go to starter machines in this niche.
The pricing makes little sense at the 6-10 piece order, but at 50-100 it evens out for everyone. Since you are not selling them as far I know. Am I allowed to order quantities of 50-100 of the pcb+assembly and selling them privately on the discord/forum at break even pricing?
Another option is buying from the Chinese clones, but I am not sure its beneficial for anyone...
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Yeeah this question has kept me up a few times as well and I remain unsure how to handle it. My goal is to make them available myself again when the circumstances allow it, but that may not be happening particularly soon yet. It is being worked on, but I don't want to leave everyone hanging on that with no further info.
In the mean time I understand that it sucks that they aren't properly available right now and haven't been for months, and that producing them in small quantities doesn't really make sense.
My stance on other people having them produced is mostly to not do it for profit, only to satisfy demand, to make sure you check the quality before distributing and of course to give proper credit (and don't remove logos and stuff like the Chinese clones are doing...). I do want them to be available to people, even when I can't provide that myself at the moment.
I'm really sorry about the current state of this project, sometimes I wish I never made it in the first place just so we wouldn't have these problems. I originally only made it because I wanted it myself, never expected it to catch on like this. In the end I think it's better that it's out there though, even if not as accessible as we'd like. I am quite proud of the design itself.
So yeah I guess you may place your own large-ish order for private sales/other interested people on the forum, at break even pricing.
I don't want this to be a blessing for anyone to do the same though. If someone else reading this is considering it, please reach out to me first. I'd like to be aware of all the places things are happening regarding these.
The biggest hurdle for production/assembly of these at the moment is that JLC doesn't have the M.2 slot these use in stock. I did recently discover they have the part listed but as far as I can tell it requires a rather large order for them to restock them, and I'm not sure how that works with them (never used their assembly service). Otherwise the M.2 slot will have to be soldered on manually which is a lot of work when the quantity goes up high enough. Every riser I've sold myself has been fully assembled by hand and I can't imagine wanting to do that for 50+ units in a short timespan.
However you intend to make the assembly work, I wish you good luck. If you can get JLC to stock a full reel of the M.2 slots that would be amazing lol. Also make sure you use the JLC order settings specified in the github repo, the design is made specifically for the JLC stackup listed there, otherwise the impedance of the PCIe lanes will be off.
Once again my apologies for the lack of availability of the risers, and thanks for reaching out first and not just going for it.
For anyone with a M720q and a Dell Mellanox ConnectX-3 CX322A dual 10G SFP+ NIC, I designed a 3D printed baffle. It might also fit on the M920q and other dual SFP+ ConnectX-3 cards as these look very similar.
Is it just me or M720q and M920q are becoming increasingly harder to find and expensive? I'm thinking about finally starting a cluster lab environment but the prices on eBay are insane, with very few auctions and units available. Is it me? The season? Not too long ago I bought 2 M920q for less than US$100 each.
Hi!
I have got an M90q Gen 6 with the 5C50W32107 riser, and I wanted to use it with a genuine Intel I350-T4 network card, but the card isn't detected at all, I can connect an ethernet cable and get the link led active, but there is zero detection of the card by the OS :/
Also, does anyone have a 3d printable baffle design? The ones for the M720Q/M920Q are different and don't fit properly.
Kinda bummed that it's not working
Best regards!
I have got an M90q Gen 6 with the 5C50W32107 riser, and I wanted to use it with a genuine Intel I350-T4 network card, but the card isn't detected at all, I can connect an ethernet cable and get the link led active, but there is zero detection of the card by the OS :/
Also, does anyone have a 3d printable baffle design? The ones for the M720Q/M920Q are different and don't fit properly.
Kinda bummed that it's not working
Best regards!
Actually I would love to get one too - as I just scored a p330 with p620 and found the hype is real … the little guy is amazing.
Just wanted to add that intel-based 2.5 GBE NICs (Intel i226V) with M.2 A & E keys are now easily available on aliexpress and worked for my m920q very well. For example: https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005008612570820.html
Looking for any tips here:
I've got a ThinkStation P3 Tiny Gen 1 - basically purchased all the parts separately hopefully to save some $$ and get exactly what I want.
While the PSREF lists only nvidia graphics cards, I thought maybe this wasn't so strict and got an AMD Radeon RX 6400 LP. Bought the PCIE riser for the motherboard, plugged in the GPU - fan spins
No signal coming from HDMIor DP ports - confirmed this through just plugging into my display but also they don't show up in xrandr (I'm on Linux, cachyOS)
And so I'm just tryign to understand if I am in fact limited to just the nvidia cards listed in the PSREF, but i feel like someone has been able to get this to work. I've tried different settings in BIOS, clearing CMOS. The only thing I don't have is another machine that accepts a discrete GPU to find out if the card actually has a display signal or not.
Any help is appreciated!
I've got a ThinkStation P3 Tiny Gen 1 - basically purchased all the parts separately hopefully to save some $$ and get exactly what I want.
While the PSREF lists only nvidia graphics cards, I thought maybe this wasn't so strict and got an AMD Radeon RX 6400 LP. Bought the PCIE riser for the motherboard, plugged in the GPU - fan spins
No signal coming from HDMIor DP ports - confirmed this through just plugging into my display but also they don't show up in xrandr (I'm on Linux, cachyOS)
And so I'm just tryign to understand if I am in fact limited to just the nvidia cards listed in the PSREF, but i feel like someone has been able to get this to work. I've tried different settings in BIOS, clearing CMOS. The only thing I don't have is another machine that accepts a discrete GPU to find out if the card actually has a display signal or not.
Any help is appreciated!
Hi Parallax,I don't think you're an idiot.
Thank you for the reply!
In part, I was curious why Lenovo would mention it at all given how likely there'd not be much to gain.
I definitely am an idiot. Like Johnny Logan almost said, what's another hour?
I haven't installed an OS yet but ran a Debian Live ISO, and created a partition on a new SSD so I could run some benchmarks. I also ran the same on a second new SSD (one planned for the OS, another for data).
The numbers vary between runs, of course, but the outcome is always the same.
Here's the black-coloured slot:
Here's the cream-coloured slot:
The sequential test(s) seem not to be affected, not surprising, but anything with a bit more work seems to be almost halved. This is a surprise. Latency via the PCH perhaps?
I am curious but realise this will make little difference to my mostly-idle m90q.
Thanks again.