Juniper EX4300 & 10GBASE-T SFP+ RJ45 transceiver

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  1. sth

    sth Active Member

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    Bought one of these to hopefully provide a single 10G T connector on my Juniper EX4300-P, all the rest of my infra is optical and didnt want to go to effort of adding in a separate 10g-base-t switch to support just one device. Luck isnt my thing so it doesnt work, curious if anyone else has had any luck, or if theres a specific switch firmware that is needed to support?
    Ill talk to 3rd party support tomorrow but maybe STH can come to the rescue....?

    EX-SFP-10GE-T-C - Juniper Compatible Optical Transceiver | ProLabs 2018-06-07 19-38-00.png

    Code:
    root@jun01> show interfaces xe-0/2/3 media
    Physical interface: xe-0/2/3, Enabled, Physical link is Up
      Interface index: 696, SNMP ifIndex: 535
      Link-level type: Ethernet, MTU: 1514, MRU: 0, Speed: 10Gbps, Duplex: Full-Duplex, BPDU Error: None,
      MAC-REWRITE Error: None, Loopback: Disabled, Source filtering: Disabled, Flow control: Enabled, Media type: Fiber
      Device flags   : Present Running
      Interface flags: SNMP-Traps Internal: 0x0
      Link flags     : None
      CoS queues     : 12 supported, 12 maximum usable queues
      Current address: 88:e0:f3:1f:39:da, Hardware address: 88:e0:f3:1f:39:da
      Last flapped   : 2018-06-08 03:58:00 UTC (00:11:21 ago)
      Input rate     : 0 bps (0 pps)
      Output rate    : 0 bps (0 pps)
      Active alarms  : None
      Active defects : None
      MAC statistics:
        Input bytes: 168056, Input packets: 2199, Output bytes: 0, Output packets: 0
      Interface transmit statistics: Disabled
    Code:
    root@jun01> show interfaces xe-0/2/3 extensive
    Physical interface: xe-0/2/3, Enabled, Physical link is Up
      Interface index: 696, SNMP ifIndex: 535, Generation: 190
      Link-level type: Ethernet, MTU: 1514, MRU: 0, Speed: 10Gbps, Duplex: Full-Duplex, BPDU Error: None,
      MAC-REWRITE Error: None, Loopback: Disabled, Source filtering: Disabled, Flow control: Enabled, Media type: Fiber
      Device flags   : Present Running
      Interface flags: SNMP-Traps Internal: 0x0
      Link flags     : None
      CoS queues     : 12 supported, 12 maximum usable queues
      Hold-times     : Up 0 ms, Down 0 ms
      Current address: 88:e0:f3:1f:39:da, Hardware address: 88:e0:f3:1f:39:da
      Last flapped   : 2018-06-08 03:58:00 UTC (00:14:03 ago)
      Statistics last cleared: Never
      Traffic statistics:
       Input  bytes  :               168056                    0 bps
       Output bytes  :                    0                    0 bps
       Input  packets:                 2199                    0 pps
       Output packets:                    0                    0 pps
       IPv6 transit statistics:
        Input  bytes  :                   0
        Output bytes  :                   0
        Input  packets:                   0
        Output packets:                   0
      Input errors:
        Errors: 0, Drops: 0, Framing errors: 0, Runts: 0, Policed discards: 0, L3 incompletes: 0, L2 channel errors: 0,
        L2 mismatch timeouts: 0, FIFO errors: 0, Resource errors: 0
      Output errors:
        Carrier transitions: 7, Errors: 0, Drops: 0, Collisions: 0, Aged packets: 0, FIFO errors: 0, HS link CRC errors: 0,
        MTU errors: 0, Resource errors: 0
      Egress queues: 12 supported, 5 in use
      Queue counters:       Queued packets  Transmitted packets      Dropped packets
        0                                0            389688526                    0
        3                                0            389688526                    0
        4                                0            389688526                    0
        7                                0            389688526                    0
        8                                0            389688526                    0
      Queue number:         Mapped forwarding classes
        0                   best-effort
        3                   fcoe
        4                   no-loss
        7                   network-control
        8                   mcast
      Active alarms  : None
      Active defects : None
      MAC statistics:                      Receive         Transmit
        Total octets                        168056                0
        Total packets                         2199                0
        Unicast packets                        241                0
        Broadcast packets                     1846                0
        Multicast packets                      112                0
        CRC/Align errors                         0                0
        FIFO errors                              0                0
        MAC control frames                       0                0
        MAC pause frames                         0                0
        Oversized frames                         0
        Jabber frames                            0
        Fragment frames                          0
        VLAN tagged frames                    2199
        Code violations                          0
      Packet Forwarding Engine configuration:
        Destination slot: 0
      CoS information:
        Direction : Output
        CoS transmit queue               Bandwidth               Buffer Priority   Limit
                                  %            bps     %           usec
        0 best-effort            95     9500000000    95              0      low    none
        7 network-control         5      500000000     5              0      low    none
      Interface transmit statistics: Disabled
      MACSec statistics:
        Output
            Secure Channel Transmitted
            Protected Packets               : 0
            Encrypted Packets               : 0
            Protected Bytes                 : 0
            Encrypted Bytes                 : 0
         Input
            Secure Channel Received
            Accepted Packets                : 0
            Validated Bytes                 : 0
            Decrypted Bytes                 : 0
    
      Logical interface xe-0/2/3.0 (Index 584) (SNMP ifIndex 596) (Generation 184)
        Flags: Up SNMP-Traps 0x0 Encapsulation: Ethernet-Bridge
        Traffic statistics:
         Input  bytes  :                19300
         Output bytes  :                19239
         Input  packets:                  299
         Output packets:                  123
        Local statistics:
         Input  bytes  :                19300
         Output bytes  :                19239
         Input  packets:                  299
         Output packets:                  123
        Transit statistics:
         Input  bytes  :                    0                    0 bps
         Output bytes  :                    0                    0 bps
         Input  packets:                    0                    0 pps
         Output packets:                    0                    0 pps
        Protocol eth-switch, MTU: 1514, Generation: 222, Route table: 3
    
    
    Connection appears up, but only showing traffic one way.
     
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    Last edited: Jun 7, 2018
  2. Blinky 42

    Blinky 42 Active Member

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    I ordered up a pair of the 10G copper SFP+ modules from fs.com and your post above convinced me to try it and see if it will work (been too busy of late). It does seem to work just fine in my ex3400, and gets a 10G link to one of my Xeon-D boards, and does fine with a 1G link as well to switches and NICs if that was needed.

    I did this one FS SFP-10G-T 10GbEBASE-T SFP+ Copper RJ45 Module | FS.COM and had them code it for Juniper to be sure.

    So it is possible - not sure if your has similar insides to the fiberstore one however.

    Code:
    --- JUNOS 17.1R1.8
    root@:RE:0% cli
    {master:0}
    root> show interfaces xe-0/2/0 media
    Physical interface: xe-0/2/0, Enabled, Physical link is Up
      Interface index: 669, SNMP ifIndex: 572
      Link-level type: Ethernet, MTU: 1514, LAN-PHY mode, Speed: 10Gbps,
      Duplex: Full-Duplex, BPDU Error: None, Loop Detect PDU Error: None,
      Ethernet-Switching Error: None, MAC-REWRITE Error: None, Loopback: Disabled,
      Source filtering: Disabled, Flow control: Enabled, Media type: Fiber
      Device flags   : Present Running
      Interface flags: SNMP-Traps Internal: 0x0
      Link flags     : None
      CoS queues     : 12 supported, 12 maximum usable queues
      Current address: 10:0e:7e:a8:5d:5f, Hardware address: 10:0e:7e:a8:5d:5f
      Last flapped   : 2017-11-03 05:36:03 GMT-5 (00:20:00 ago)
      Input rate     : 0 bps (0 pps)
      Output rate    : 3368 bps (4 pps)
      Active alarms  : None
      Active defects : None
      PCS statistics                      Seconds
        Bit errors                             0
        Errored blocks                         0
      FEC statistics                       Errors
        FEC Corrected Errors                    0
        FEC Uncorrected Errors                  0
      MAC statistics:
        Input bytes: 2352, Input packets: 20, Output bytes: 750017,
        Output packets: 6705
      Interface transmit statistics: Disabled
    
    {master:0}
    
    root> show interfaces xe-0/2/0 extensive
    Physical interface: xe-0/2/0, Enabled, Physical link is Up
      Interface index: 669, SNMP ifIndex: 572, Generation: 160
      Link-level type: Ethernet, MTU: 1514, LAN-PHY mode, Speed: 10Gbps, Duplex: Full-Duplex, BPDU Error: None, Loop Detect PDU Error: None,
      Ethernet-Switching Error: None, MAC-REWRITE Error: None, Loopback: Disabled, Source filtering: Disabled, Flow control: Enabled, Media type: Fiber
      Device flags   : Present Running
      Interface flags: SNMP-Traps Internal: 0x0
      Link flags     : None
      CoS queues     : 12 supported, 12 maximum usable queues
      Hold-times     : Up 0 ms, Down 0 ms
      Current address: 10:0e:7e:a8:5d:5f, Hardware address: 10:0e:7e:a8:5d:5f
      Last flapped   : 2017-11-03 05:36:03 GMT-5 (00:20:49 ago)
      Statistics last cleared: Never
      Traffic statistics:
       Input  bytes  :                 2352                    0 bps
       Output bytes  :               774349                 3032 bps
       Input  packets:                   20                    0 pps
       Output packets:                 6953                    4 pps
       IPv6 transit statistics:
        Input  bytes  :                   0
        Output bytes  :                   0
        Input  packets:                   0
        Output packets:                   0
      Input errors:
        Errors: 0, Drops: 0, Framing errors: 0, Runts: 0, Policed discards: 0, L3 incompletes: 0, L2 channel errors: 0, L2 mismatch timeouts: 0, FIFO errors: 0,
        Resource errors: 0
      Output errors:
        Carrier transitions: 3, Errors: 0, Drops: 0, Collisions: 0, Aged packets: 0, FIFO errors: 0, HS link CRC errors: 0, MTU errors: 0, Resource errors: 0
      Egress queues: 12 supported, 8 in use
      Queue counters:       Queued packets  Transmitted packets      Dropped packets
        0                                0                    1                    0
        1                                0                    0                    0
        2                                0                    0                    0
        3                                0                  704                    0
        8                                0                 6161                    0
        9                                0                    0                    0
        10                               0                    0                    0
        11                               0                   84                    0
      Queue number:         Mapped forwarding classes
        0                   best-effort
        1                   expedited-forwarding
        2                   assured-forwarding
        3                   network-control
        8                   mcast-be
        9                   mcast-ef
        10                  mcast-af
        11                  mcast-nc
      Active alarms  : None
      Active defects : None
      PCS statistics                      Seconds
        Bit errors                             0
        Errored blocks                         0
      FEC statistics                       Errors
        FEC Corrected Errors                    0
        FEC Uncorrected Errors                  0
      MAC statistics:                      Receive         Transmit
        Total octets                          2352           774349
        Total packets                           20             6953
        Unicast packets                         20             1368
        Broadcast packets                        0             3797
        Multicast packets                       15             1788
        CRC/Align errors                         0                0
        FIFO errors                              0                0
        MAC control frames                       0                0
        MAC pause frames                         0                0
        Oversized frames                         0
        Jabber frames                            0
        Fragment frames                          0
        VLAN tagged frames                       0
        Code violations                          0
      Packet Forwarding Engine configuration:
        Destination slot: 0
      CoS information:
        Direction : Output
        CoS transmit queue               Bandwidth               Buffer Priority   Limit
                                  %            bps     %           usec
        0 best-effort            75     7500000000    75              0      low    none
        3 network-control         5      500000000     5              0      low    none
        8 mcast-be               15     1500000000    15              0      low    none
        11 mcast-nc               5      500000000     5              0      low    none
      Interface transmit statistics: Disabled
      MACSec statistics:
        Output
            Secure Channel Transmitted
            Protected Packets               : 0
            Encrypted Packets               : 0
            Protected Bytes                 : 0
            Encrypted Bytes                 : 0
         Input
            Secure Channel Received
            Accepted Packets                : 0
            Validated Bytes                 : 0
            Decrypted Bytes                 : 0
    
      Logical interface xe-0/2/0.0 (Index 577) (SNMP ifIndex 573) (Generation 162)
        Flags: Up SNMP-Traps 0x0 Encapsulation: Ethernet-Bridge
        Traffic statistics:
         Input  bytes  :                  896
         Output bytes  :                31753
         Input  packets:                    9
         Output packets:                  132
        Local statistics:
         Input  bytes  :                  896
         Output bytes  :                31753
         Input  packets:                    9
         Output packets:                  132
        Transit statistics:
         Input  bytes  :                    0                    0 bps
         Output bytes  :                    0                    0 bps
         Input  packets:                    0                    0 pps
         Output packets:                    0                    0 pps
        Protocol eth-switch, MTU: 1514, Generation: 181, Route table: 3
    
    {master:0}
    root>
    
    Nothing too interesting in the DOM output however
    Code:
    root> show interfaces diagnostics optics xe-0/2/0
    Physical interface: xe-0/2/0
        Laser bias current                        :  6.000 mA
        Laser output power                        :  0.5000 mW / -3.01 dBm
        Module temperature                        :  42 degrees C / 108 degrees F
        Module voltage                            :  3.3090 V
        Laser receiver power                      :  0.5000 mW / -3.01 dBm
        Laser bias current high alarm             :  Off
        Laser bias current low alarm              :  Off
        Laser bias current high warning           :  Off
        Laser bias current low warning            :  Off
        Laser output power high alarm             :  Off
        Laser output power low alarm              :  Off
        Laser output power high warning           :  Off
        Laser output power low warning            :  Off
        Module temperature high alarm             :  Off
        Module temperature low alarm              :  Off
        Module temperature high warning           :  Off
        Module temperature low warning            :  Off
        Module voltage high alarm                 :  Off
        Module voltage low alarm                  :  Off
        Module voltage high warning               :  Off
        Module voltage low warning                :  Off
        Laser rx power high alarm                 :  Off
        Laser rx power low alarm                  :  Off
        Laser rx power high warning               :  Off
        Laser rx power low warning                :  Off
        Laser bias current high alarm threshold   :  15.000 mA
        Laser bias current low alarm threshold    :  2.000 mA
        Laser bias current high warning threshold :  14.000 mA
        Laser bias current low warning threshold  :  3.000 mA
        Laser output power high alarm threshold   :  1.5840 mW / 2.00 dBm
        Laser output power low alarm threshold    :  0.2510 mW / -6.00 dBm
        Laser output power high warning threshold :  1.2580 mW / 1.00 dBm
        Laser output power low warning threshold  :  0.3160 mW / -5.00 dBm
        Module temperature high alarm threshold   :  85 degrees C / 185 degrees F
        Module temperature low alarm threshold    :  -20 degrees C / -4 degrees F
        Module temperature high warning threshold :  75 degrees C / 167 degrees F
        Module temperature low warning threshold  :  -10 degrees C / 14 degrees F
        Module voltage high alarm threshold       :  3.700 V
        Module voltage low alarm threshold        :  2.900 V
        Module voltage high warning threshold     :  3.500 V
        Module voltage low warning threshold      :  3.100 V
        Laser rx power high alarm threshold       :  1.2589 mW / 1.00 dBm
        Laser rx power low alarm threshold        :  0.0251 mW / -16.00 dBm
        Laser rx power high warning threshold     :  1.0000 mW / 0.00 dBm
        Laser rx power low warning threshold      :  0.0316 mW / -15.00 dBm
    
    {master:0}
    
    I would contact your supplier and ask what's up.
     
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    Last edited: Jun 8, 2018
  3. fohdeesha

    fohdeesha Well-Known Member

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    Do you have any experience with the microtik S+RJ10? It's only 1/3rd the price of the fiberstore module, I'm curious to give it a try in my brocade and juniper gear - will only be for short runs, maybe 20 feet or less. I've seen reports of it working in cheap netgears and even mellanox cards so I'm thinking it should work, but who knows with this stuff
     
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  4. Blinky 42

    Blinky 42 Active Member

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    No not yet - a few folks on the forums purchased the Microtik ones and seemed to have mixed success, so I got the spendy ones from FS as I needed a pair to work for one application and could return them if there was any issues, plus I was ordering several dozen SFP+s anyway for another project. If I get my hands on a set I will try them out. I will try the FS one in my Brocade ICX66xx's eventually and other Juniper, Quanta and HP gear.
     
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  5. Jerry Renwick

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    Many folks purchase 10G copper SFP+ modules from Microtik and FS.COM. Their third-party modules are with high compatibility and you can get with decent price.
     
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  6. Blinky 42

    Blinky 42 Active Member

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    I ordered a pair of the Mikrotik ones up also and will try them and the FS ones in a mix of cards and switches. Need to break down and buy a SFP re-coder too.
     
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