Intel Xeon E5-2670 Deal and Price Tracking

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Stereodude

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IMHO, don't do it. The TDP isn't increased. Depending on the workload it will hardly be any faster than a 2670. I tried a E5-2689 v1 and found it was a big waste of money. With my x264 workload it runs about 3.05gHz vs. 3.0gHz for the 2670 on the 2nd pass. The first pass was about 10% faster where it would run at the full 3.3gHz vs. 3.0gHz.
 

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Very good advise, thank you. 2670 is still a good deal in EU as well although the v2's are kicking in pricewise.
I just picked up a 2687W v2 for my single processor E5 v1 system to replace the E5-2689 v1. It wasn't 2670 v1 cheap, but good enough that I couldn't resist. It should be delivered today.

Now I just need the price for the E5-2690 v2 to drop below $500 each so I can put a pair of them in the dual processor board.
 
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Very good advise, thank you. 2670 is still a good deal in EU as well although the v2's are kicking in pricewise.
Just to follow up I went back and looked at my data as well as ran my new (to me) E5-2687W v2 CPU through the same test. The E5-2689 (v1) was 1.2% faster than the E5-2670 (v1) on the 2nd pass of my x264 encoding test. In contrast, the E5-2687W v2 was just over 25% faster than the E5-2670 (v1) in the second pass.

FWIW, the E5-2687W v2 is 70% faster in the 2nd pass than an i7-4770k overclocked to 4.2gHz.
 

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In contrast, the E5-2687W v2 was just over 25% faster than the E5-2670 (v1) in the second pass.
The base MHz increase of 800MHz should result in a ~25% time reduction.

Thanks for sharing, because the data point indicates it is not (yet) time for me to migrate from the 2670v1 platform.
 

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V2 prices will likely decline later this year and into 2018 but as the E5-2690 V2 is the flagship of the 1ocore Xeon processors of the V2 lineup it is doubtful the price will decline that low.
Why wouldn't they get down to $500? The flagship E5-2690 V1's are down to ~$250.

The 2687W V2 will also be a while before the prices come down for that. It's a nice 8 core Ivy Bridge-EP Xeon but at the current prices it's not that favorable or irresistible even though the QS is selling for $729 USD.
I got a real 2687W V2 (not QS or ES) for under $700. The last auction for one on eBay sold for $575. Unfortunately, it was later the same day a different seller accepted my best offer for more than that. :eek:

I probably would have gotten it cheaper in the auction. Oh well...
 

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Actually the flagship is the E5-2687W not the E5-2690 V1 although the 2690 original oem price is higher and prices haven't declined as rapidly as the 2690. The 2680 seems to be taking the 2670 price declines and the 2670 has rapidly picked back up in price.
Regardless, I don't see how that means the E5-2690 V2 won't fall below $500. Both the E5-2687W and the E5-2690 V1 are under $500. They were all around $2k originally.
 

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The base MHz increase of 800MHz should result in a ~25% time reduction.

Thanks for sharing, because the data point indicates it is not (yet) time for me to migrate from the 2670v1 platform.
There's a small boost from the larger L2 cache and IPC gains. The clock speed under load after Tubro is 3.6gHz vs. 3.0gHz, which is only 20%.
 

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In contrast, the E5-2687W v2 was just over 25% faster than the E5-2670 (v1) in the second pass.

There's a small boost from the larger L2 cache and IPC gains. The clock speed under load after Tubro is 3.6gHz vs. 3.0gHz, which is only 20%.
I understand the post to say, "my real world use" the 2670v1 is 3.0GHz in "turbo" and 2687w is 3.6GHz in "turbo." Nice data point.

The 2670v1 is good for a 400MHz bump, but the 2687w is good for a 200MHz bump over the base MHz, both under load.
 

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I understand the post to say, "my real world use" the 2670v1 is 3.0GHz in "turbo" and 2687w is 3.6GHz in "turbo." Nice data point.

The 2670v1 is good for a 400MHz bump, but the 2687w is good for a 200MHz bump over the base MHz, both under load.
Yes, there's still TDP headroom on the 2687W v2 at that point, but Intel limited the boost to 200MHz when all the cores are loaded. There's not much TDP headroom on the 2670 v1 beyond the 400MHz Intel allowed, which is why the 2689 v1 isn't much faster despite being allowed 700MHz of Turbo vs. 400MHz from the same base clock.
 

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For those using the S2600 based boards from Intel and want to get the full featureset including KVM working.

Get the Intel AXXRMM4 from Newegg: Intel AXXRMM4 Remote Management Module - Newegg.com

Do not buy it from Amazon as it does not come with the PCI brackets and only comes with the module. Not even sure the Amazon one comes with the cables.

It's not so much cheaper on eBay either unless you already have the cables and you would have to go look for the PCI brackets too which are a pain. The set from Newegg comes with everything you need. I'm using a Corsair Carbide Air 540 for the case so I need the PCI brackets.

You would need Java installed for the KVM Console and to get display for Windows you will need to Install the Graphics Driver from:
Download Onboard Video Driver for Windows* Server 2016

This installs the drivers for the Matrox G200e on the board. I have a GTX 1060 on the board also. In the bios, do not turn on dual video adapter but just enable the onboard graphics. This allows me to use the GTX 1060 as the main display for my monitors whilst the Matrox G200e will be used for the KVM Console.
 
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Looks like these have gone back up somewhat substantially for a v1 chip, compared to how cheap they got.
 

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Looks like these have gone back up somewhat substantially for a v1 chip, compared to how cheap they got.
Good. I'm sitting on a pair waiting on the MBs to come down in price but will sell them if I don't see that happening.
 

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Good. I'm sitting on a pair waiting on the MBs to come down in price but will sell them if I don't see that happening.
Might want to check out some Dell R620s on ebay, I'm seeing some barebones for relatively cheap compared to how much they were lol.

Dell PowerEdge R620 Server 10 Bay Barebones w/ 2 HS No PS No CPU No ram No Hdd 884116099574 | eBay

These were selling for 299 just the other day. That's probably about as much as a competing SuperMicro board but as 24 DIMMs, flexible LOM, 10 SFF bays, a chassis, and what is arguably a better management engine if you get the DRAC enterprise.
 

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Might want to check out some Dell R620s on ebay, I'm seeing some barebones for relatively cheap compared to how much they were lol.

Dell PowerEdge R620 Server 10 Bay Barebones w/ 2 HS No PS No CPU No ram No Hdd 884116099574 | eBay

These were selling for 299 just the other day. That's probably about as much as a competing SuperMicro board but as 24 DIMMs, flexible LOM, 10 SFF bays, a chassis, and what is arguably a better management engine if you get the DRAC enterprise.
That would be a very bad idea. The accessories for Dell servers are costly. It's always a best bet to buy a fully configured Dell server instead of buying it as parts. For instance, power supplies cost as much as $130 each (750W~1100W) used. Processors would be costing at-least $200 for a pair. Dell branded HDD or SSDs are way too overpriced even for used ones. By looking at the listing picture, even the PERC card is missing, so that would be $160 for a decent H710P. 1333Mhz DDR3 ram would cost around $12~$15 per 8GB stick. Additionally you might also want to consider getting rails and front bezel.

I have a basic R620 bought directly from Dell and I have spent more money on the accessory upgrades than what the server is worth. It's honestly not worth the hassle.