Intel Pro 5400 180GB m.2 SATA SSD - BO $15/ea +$8 shipping

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If anyone's looking for a good cheap SATA m.2 boot drive this is a pretty good price. These are new pulls from OEM machines.

Intel 180GB SATA SSD M2 Hard Drive SSDSCKKF1806H6H 856581-001 | eBay

These should work nicely in the t730 and t620 thin clients.

OEM Part Numbers:
  • Intel Pro 5400 180GB SSDSCKKF180H6H (PN 856581-001)
  • Intel Pro 5400 360GB SSDSCKKF360H6H (PN 900034-001)
  • Intel Pro 5400 256GB SSDSCKKF256H6H (PN 925508-001)
  • Intel Pro 5400s 240GB SATA Opal2 SSD (PN 856640-001)
  • Intel Pro 5400s 240GB SATA SSD (PN 856638-001)
E: Seller is accepting B/Os at $15/ea.
 
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Eh...180GB is kind of a borderline number, and plus if you order more than one, it's not a flat $8 - it's multiples of 8, even though it's just an extra layer of bubblewrap on the envelope, which is silly if the seller is sending it to you via USPS priority Mail flat-rate - if you buy 3 you are effectively paying for 4, and the 15% off coupon isn't going to help offset that.
 

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Yeah, sorry about that. When I posted I didn't see that shipping was flat $8/ea.

Even with shipping it's not a terrible price for these; I've been following prices on 180-256GB m.2 SATA drives for a couple of weeks now and most are priced right around $50. It wouldn't hurt to ask the seller to adjust shipping if you're buying multiple drives too.

I'm kind of curious if anyone can get them to OBO the drives down to $25 shipped, that's about my sweet spot for cheap boot drives.
 

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Huh, something about this listing urks me just a little - the seller only has a previous feedback of 15, and this looks like her only item out now. I don't think you will be able to convince her to take $17/drive + $8 shipping unless you are buying over 4 of them.
 
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Accepted another $30/2 drives

Anyone know of a cheap and reliable m.2 sata to USB 3 housing? It looks like I'm replacing all of my big USB 3 sticks when these arrive.

@WANg -- not a terrible deal now :)
 

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I got 6 @ $17. Even at $25 shipped it's a fine deal. 180GB is great for a boot drive and works out much cheaper than a DOM. As most have pointed out @arglebargle this is actually a good deal so thank you for posting :)
 

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My drives arrived yesterday. They're all basically brand-new, as expected.

Don't pay much attention to the benchmark data, I plugged them into a USB3 enclosure to test and the controller is mediocre (and my USB3 desktop hub tends to disconnect under heavy load, so there's that.) The SMART data is the important bit here.

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These things get *hot* when writing, the drive on my desk hit 83C during a short benchmark. I guess this is normal and these m.2 drives are designed for this but I strongly suspect that they'll perform better with the biggest heatsink you can manage to fit on the drive. The controller seems to be the biggest hot spot, the nand gets warm but not anywhere close to as hot as the controller.

intel 5400 hdtune read - no heatsink.png intel 5400 hdtune write - no heatsink.png intel 5400 hdtune temp - no heatsink.png

Edit: I popped a 14mm^2 copper GPU RAM heatsink I had in my parts box on the controller and dropped load temps by ~20C.
 
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Eh, I did look into them briefly as an slog drive for my FreeNAS zpool, but I don't see a capacitor to protect against power loss. Oh well, there shall be others.
 

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Run full offline tests on these when they arrive; one of my drives showed 0 bad sectors yesterday, 2 this morning and 4 this afternoon. It hasn't budged since then but I'm going to keep watching it and I'll probably return it if the number keeps increasing.
 

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Eh, I did look into them briefly as an slog drive for my FreeNAS zpool, but I don't see a capacitor to protect against power loss. Oh well, there shall be others.
If you want cheap slog, you want optane. Even the $100 800P has something like 10x the synchronous write performance and 1/10th the latency of an S3700 SSD, which is a very good SSD. They have no RAM cache buffer in the middle so there's no power loss protection required, they do not report SCSI write confirmations back to the host until the writes are indeed in non-volatile NAND

https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...intel-s3710-or-s4600.18976/page-2#post-195810
 

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If you want cheap slog, you want optane. Even the $100 800P has something like 10x the synchronous write performance and 1/10th the latency of an S3700 SSD, which is a very good SSD. They have no RAM cache buffer in the middle so there's no power loss protection required, they do not report SCSI write confirmations back to the host until the writes are indeed in non-volatile NAND

https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...intel-s3710-or-s4600.18976/page-2#post-195810
Oooof. Its gonna be "fun" trying to figure out how to wire an N40L to accept a PCIe NVMe Optane.

Probable answer: not without that PCIe x16 slot you don't, so that's a no-go/non-starter.
 
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Oooof. Its gonna be "fun" trying to figure out how to wire an N40L to accept a PCIe NVMe Optane.
I've actually been wondering about the E key slot. Is it PCIe 1x or USB? I feel like there should be an ngff e key riser to mini pcie or something.
 

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I've actually been wondering about the E key slot. Is it PCIe 1x or USB? I feel like there should be an ngff e key riser to mini pcie or something.
Unfortunately, it's either. There's no physical identifier for the underlying protocol on certain M.2 keys. It's supposed to be for flexibility but all it does is induce headaches.
 

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What do lspci and lsusb look like with the fiber nic installed in the t730? I suppose I could dig mine out later today and look.

If it's 2x PCIe that could be really interesting, then it might be possible to chain together a series of adapters and drop a 2x pcie optane in there.

Can you tell I've spent some time thinking about this? :rolleyes:
 

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What do lspci and lsusb look like with the fiber nic installed in the t730? I suppose I could dig mine out later today and look.

If it's 2x PCIe that could be really interesting, then it might be possible to chain together a series of adapters and drop a 2x pcie optane in there.

Can you tell I've spent some time thinking about this? :rolleyes:
The fiber NIC is PCIe x1, and you need at least an x2 (optimally an x4) for the Optane. And then there's the issue of NVMe support in the BIOS / UEFI environment...and there isn't any. Plus if it's supposed to be zlog for the NAS, it has to be on the NAS/iSCSI target (N40L) side of things, not the initiator (t730) side. Eh, I don't think it's that wise to spend too much money on a cheap device like that.