Intel E5-2640V4 matched pair - $110 shipped @ eBay

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EasyRhino

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yeah I've noticed that the 2640's and 2650' v4's have gotten cheap. I think I saw 2650 v4's for about $50. (possibly from china).
I was thinking about picking up a QHVD ES "slower than a 2667 v4" because it was $30.
 

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yeah I've noticed that the 2640's and 2650' v4's have gotten cheap. I think I saw 2650 v4's for about $50. (possibly from china).
I was thinking about picking up a QHVD ES "slower than a 2667 v4" because it was $30.
I'm glad prices are finally reasonable. I have a personal rule to just not trust/use the Q series chips, but definitely could work depending on what you're using them for!
 

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i am waiting for the time when 2699 v4 are actually affordable!
They were $100 each in a fluke eBay deal a year or so ago, but only got 1 and never could get another one at a good price, so I resold it. Never seen that deal again.
 

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i think we are quite a while from 2699 v4 being down in that area as normal price yet, with how many has extended 2-3year supports on that gen hardware from lack of availability + being first gen ddr4.

i was happy enough finding a bit of 2683 v4 at 60$ from one of the waves of them getting dumped.
 

EasyRhino

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well they were ES and from China. So you know... the price probably is only slightly cheap under those circumstances.
 

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That's actually not bad price considering they are significantly faster and newer than 2696 v2 which are still $70 or so each
You can also take a look at 2697 v3 with passmark score similar to 2690 v4 at around $95. Or step up to 2699 v3 for just under $130. Imho, the Haswell chips are underrated and currently have a great price-to-performance ratio!
 

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You can also take a look at 2697 v3 with passmark score similar to 2690 v4 at around $95. Or step up to 2699 v3 for just under $130. Imho, the Haswell chips are underrated and currently have a great price-to-performance ratio!
2699 v3 if it's retail, non ES or QS , that's good price for performance!

Is it just me or it seems like on several benchmarks, the 2699 v4 are not really significantly faster than 2699 v3? given that 2699 v3 is only $130 but 2699 v4 is $500, it's like a no brainer to just get the 2699 v3 right now.

I have an Asus Z10PE MB so i would like to at some point be able to max out its performance just like i maxed out my v2 system with dual 2696 v2
 
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FlorianZ

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Is it just me or it seems like on several benchmarks, the 2699 v4 are not really significantly faster than 2699 v3?
I bet it depends on your workload. There is a memory bandwidth difference with Haswell maxing out at 2133 MHz. And there are also a handful of micro architectural improvements, like reduced latency for IO intensive virtualization workloads on Broadwell.

But yeah, I upgraded from 2697 v3 to 2699 v4 only because of the deal @Almighty referred to, and the difference was small. No way in hell I would spend $500 on the 2699 v4.
 

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I bet it depends on your workload. There is a memory bandwidth difference with Haswell maxing out at 2133 MHz. And there are also a handful of micro architectural improvements, like reduced latency for IO intensive virtualization workloads on Broadwell.

But yeah, I upgraded from 2697 v3 to 2699 v4 only because of the deal @Almighty referred to, and the difference was small. No way in hell I would spend $500 on the 2699 v4.
So 18x2.8=50.4 vs 22x2.6=57.2... Are you actually seeing a 12% different in multi thread workload?

I think it is quite crazy that a $130 cpu from many years ago is just a little slower than the $300 i7-12700. And if you have two of them, it's still cheaper than one i7-12700 with much much greater multicore performance.

Of course the i7 completely wipes the 2699 v3/4 in single to 8 core performance
 
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I just got an offer of 10% off, for $100, from the seller (was in my Watchlist - some sellers will send out discounts if you sit on the Watchlist for a while).

RE: waiting for e5-2699 v4 price drops... Don't hold your breath. Every "top tier chip" will always demand a premium on eBay over one or two steps down. It will always be like 150% or 200% the price of just dropping one or two models down. Case in point:

E5-2699 V4 (22C/44T) right now around $450-ish (non-China)?
E5-2698 V4 (20C/40T @ 2.1) ~$250
E5-2697 V4 (18C/36T @2.1) ~$200

RE: ES/QS versions of these chips... I am now banning any and all ES/QS chips from my life, never again. ES/QS chips were the only way I could afford V1/V2/V3/V4 over the years because back in 2014, there was no way I was going to pay $2000 for a CPU where I could China an ES version for $400.

To this day, I have 7 or 8 ES chips that are... Just not right. Odd random full system freeze/lockups, occasional memory errors, etc. The amount of trouble these ES chips have caused me, thinking, "It can't be the chips. has to be the motherboard. the bios. ok, i'll try beta bios. ok, has to be lsi controllers. nope, has to be the chassis. missing a ground... etc etc" years of frustration and too much money, never suspecting the ES chips.

Then I got a deal on eBay for the exact models of a couple of the ES chips in a dual system I was using, but in retail form. 100% stability! i mean, I haven't rebooted the server in almost 2 years. I have even put in my old big memory kit I thought was unstable, and it's just fine now! I am even taxing the machine far harder now, and even added another 14 drives. Zero issues.

IMO, stay away from ES/QS chips. Especially for how cheap you can get some of these retail chips.
 
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Yeah, i got two ES QHUP v4 that are 20 cores locked at 2 ghz no matter how many cores are working,,,lol,,,, also two QS 2696 v3 and two QS 2686 v3 with these running slower than expected compared to benchmarks for retails. But i really didn't experience much random crashes.

Yeah, no reason to ever get ES/QS anymore for 20111 stuffs.

Seems like v4 is still too much premium over v3 ;(. v3 is fast for price and great bargains but i do like to be able to have the enhancements from v4
 
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MB keeps value much better than CPU as always... Kinda like lenses keep value much better than camera bodies.
 
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Just a few months later, I am seeing this processor ( E5-2650 V4 ) for $20-$25 and am kind of intrigued. I was about to buy 12700k for my desktop. The base CPU clock seems kind of low (2.2GHz). Any experience with these for a workstation?


e5-2699 v4 seems to be in $160 ballpark. It feels like for a workstation a single threaded performance can matter a bit more?
 

EasyRhino

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the 2697's v4 are sometimes under $100 too.

It is weird comparing these old (like 8 year) monster cpu's against a modern one. Newer cpu's the clock speed is much higher and the instructions per clock is much higher.

For gaming this will often result in higher performance because games often only can use 4 to 8 cores with diminishing returns.
And, I dunno, my Quicken software seems to be single threaded too. Maybe some javascript. A single iperf stream. who knows.

But I think it depends on what your workstation is doing. If you're doing a lot of big render jobs, they will probably be able to use all the cores you throw at it, for instance.

I'm actually about to replace my E5 2480 v4 with a I7-7700K. Only four cores instead of fourteen. cpubenchmark says the big old cpu is only twice as fast though. But my main home server requirements need better idle power usage and the igpu quick sync transcoding, so it should be more useful.