depends on workload, but for lots of what I do, 2400 works fine with a minimal hit vs 3200
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.Yeah, I'm not fully sure what I'll be doing with them besides obviously Proxmox VE and Virtual Machines / LXC containers, Docker/Podman Containers, etc
.I also don't fully understand how higher Memory Frequency always equals better Performance, because if you look at the CAS Latency, these always go up with the memory Frequency ...
Looking at this STH Article it seems it's around 5% ... 10% Performance Drop, although depends with Use:
Given how cheap I could get the 2400 MHz ones I'm not sure it's worth to wait for maybe-some-day-i-get-2666.
Has anybody tried to populate one of these all with RDIMMs by the Way (NOT LRDIMM) ? Do we have a Rank Limitation etc ?
Anyhow by the Looks of it in "Legacy Platform" installing half or all DIMM with Dual-Rank will drop the speed to 2133 MHz
.Using half of all DIMMs Quad-Rank Memory will let the speed go up to 2666 MHz, but that will also drop to 2133 MHz when fully populated
.I guess "Optimized Platform" means "Memory Overclocking" or ? Can it be configured to say 2400 MHz manually or is it an ON-OFF only "Switch", meaning you cannot select the desired Frequency ?
Does anybody know where to get the plastic m.2 standoff's to install the m.2's on the back side, on the mainboard?
Has anyone here had Pitney Bowes/eBay Global Shipping Program (GSP) lose your shipment?
There haven't been any tracking updates in 2 weeks since it left the GSP warehouse in the UK. The last location is an exit scan in CITY, STATE. I've opened an Item Not Received case with eBay but I'd much rather have what I ordered than a refund.
There haven't been any tracking updates in 2 weeks since it left the GSP warehouse in the UK. The last location is an exit scan in CITY, STATE. I've opened an Item Not Received case with eBay but I'd much rather have what I ordered than a refund.
Ive had a few shipments lost in the handover between companies at the airport as it enters Norway.
After 2-3 weeks without updates on tracking ive made a case with ebay, they do not seem to have any way of actually following up on it tho.
Everytime they have just refunded the lost packages.
As Pitney owns the shipment none of the freighters/couriers they were showing as stuck with would provide any assistance to me directly.
Out of the maybe 10 lost shipments almost all of them have eventualy arrived tho, as some free gifts i suppose.
One lost of refused by export Customs in the UK I believe for whatever BS Reason (Fiber Transceiver, subsequent Orders went fine), automatically refunded without even filing a Complaint. NEVER received it of course in my Case.
Not sure if that's Legal but given all the illegal and immoral Stuff Governments do it doesn't really matter
.Does it require a special special to the Motherboard Manufacturer ? Isn't it something generic ?
As usual Aliexpress Search sucks but ... something like this maybe ?
I couldn't find a 22110 one though ...
Indeed I checked today and it's some special Insert that seem to be required, probably a plastic Piece that goes in this Way, then you rotate it to "lock" it into place from behind.
I wonder if something like this would also work:
This is apparently used on simple circular Holes not the "special" one used here, so not sure if it will work, if we "clip" it where there is still some material on the PCB:
Alternatively maybe something like this (Snap Lock / Snap Pin / Pegs / etc):
www.digikey.dk
www.digikey.dk
Search for that Category (feel free to expand a bit, I just selected "10 mm" max overall Length to try to filter out those that are WAY too long, there is no Filter for "M2" Thread though, only M3/M4/etc):
www.digikey.dk
I wonder if something like this would also work:
This is apparently used on simple circular Holes not the "special" one used here, so not sure if it will work, if we "clip" it where there is still some material on the PCB:
Alternatively maybe something like this (Snap Lock / Snap Pin / Pegs / etc):
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Search for that Category (feel free to expand a bit, I just selected "10 mm" max overall Length to try to filter out those that are WAY too long, there is no Filter for "M2" Thread though, only M3/M4/etc):
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How did you finally get it to post ?
I tried plugging & unplugging the AC Power Cable like 5 times, tried several Reboots, etc, never got it to post until now
.Do you need to remove all DIMMs and just try with 1 DIMM instead ?
I currently have 8 x 64GB LRDIMMs installed (2400 MHz), but I guess I could try a single 32GB RDIMM (2666 MHz) to see if that behaves better ...
EDIT 1: it seems that if I unplug AC Cable, Remove CR2032 Battery, Clear CMOS using Jumper J194 (put Jumper between Pin 2-3 for a few Seconds, then back to Pin 1-2, IMPORTANT: count from Right Side and look at the Manual !) then after a few automatic Reboots (I think it was 4 or 5), the Server finally started outputting via VGA
.EDIT 2: as I think previously stated, you need to install a temporary USB3 Internal Header to USB Type A Adapter, as by default the Rear USB3 Ports are disabled. Therefore enable both USB3 Controllers in BIOS.
EDIT 3: Disable Secure Boot, at least temporarily. I couldn't boot from my Ubuntu LiveUSB until I did so. I didn't manage to get my Debian LiveUSB to boot, probably the EFI Layout is not good enough for this HYVE BIOS
.EDIT 4: for my Ears, I find it much better to limit the CPU Frequency to P1 (2.1GHz) instead of P0 (2.3 GHz), using
cpupower frequency-set -u 2.1GHzI also set the Governor to
conservative (default was schedutil):cpupower frequency-set --governor conservativeThe Power Consumption also drops considerably from 240W to around 150W as indicated by
turbostat for PkgWatt.Temperatures are around 80°C doing a Linux Kernel Compile, which is my Stress Test of Choice
.I would say that the Performance hit is quite small at least in this Case.
I don't think the System is doing any Turbo Boost at all to be honest ... At stock 2.3GHz I felt that the System was throttling because the Fans kept going up and down all the Time, but maybe it's just a subjective Feeling based off the Noise
.It's probably also an Option to set a TDP or Rated Power like 200W instead of the default 240W, that could still allow a bit of Boost while reducing the Noise (hopefully) significantly.
EDIT 5: did anybody succeed in fixing the extreme Fan Noise during Boot (first 60 Seconds or so) ?
EDIT 6: did anybody else also have KVM broken (black Display) ?
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Mine worked after clearing CMOS and let it reboot 3 or 4 Times.
VGA Output works. However, KVM does NOT.
Are you able to get any Display Output over KVM (IPMI) ? I just get a Black Screen
.After prepping first 2 the rest of the stack was fairly quick.
- Specced with ram/ssd, set header to reset cmos
- Let it cycle through 2 fan tests, move header back
- Starts fine, enter cmos and enable rear usb along with memory clocking from enabled to auto
- Liveboot ubuntu, set new bmc password.
- Rebooted and confirmed bmc password works okay, moved into test rack.
KVM worked on the first 2, a bit sluggish to move terminal window in ubuntu but works. (have not tested KVM on the other ones)
- Specced with ram/ssd, set header to reset cmos
- Let it cycle through 2 fan tests, move header back
- Starts fine, enter cmos and enable rear usb along with memory clocking from enabled to auto
- Liveboot ubuntu, set new bmc password.
- Rebooted and confirmed bmc password works okay, moved into test rack.
KVM worked on the first 2, a bit sluggish to move terminal window in ubuntu but works. (have not tested KVM on the other ones)
I only struggled with the first one.
But as I said, remote CR2032 Batterym, Clear CMOS with Jumper for like 30 Seconds, move Jumper back to normal Position and start it.
Then I think it was more like 3-4 Times (you say 2) but alright, just let it reboot a few Times, then you will see it Post. Via VGA that is.
I still am stuck with Black Screen on KVM after resetting Password via ipmitool from Ubuntu. I can see e.g. Sensors, System Event Log (empty, not even sure if it works), etc. But the KVM Screen stays Black, it's not even like Supermicro's where you have a few Buttons available etc. It's completely black and there is nothing you can do on it. I tried both Librewold and Chromium Browsers ...
Do you have any adblockers etc installed and running? I've had similar symptoms on Dell iDRACs and found f.e. noscript was blocking it.
Just an idea, concerning the KVM issues:
Newer BMC solutions often have the option to choose whether KVM should be running via Java, or via HTML5. And depending on the Java versions, this often gets blocked by default, for security reasons. HTML5 is much more compatible in that regard. So maye - just guessing here - look for a setting like that.
Newer BMC solutions often have the option to choose whether KVM should be running via Java, or via HTML5. And depending on the Java versions, this often gets blocked by default, for security reasons. HTML5 is much more compatible in that regard. So maye - just guessing here - look for a setting like that.
I have uBlock Origin on Librewolf but I don't think on Chromium. I don't think I have NoScript.
Anyway, thanks, I'll check later during the Weekend !
With these machines? It was a bargain buy, but they're somewhat flaky when it comes to booting up. Just did a reboot this afternoon, machine never came back online. Was stuck, no monitor output, fans at full speed, very loud. Had to poweroff/poweron to make it boot again. Not the first time.
But all in all.. for a lab, lovely deal.
But all in all.. for a lab, lovely deal.
Same feeling here. I feel that reboot doesn't work, whether it's CTRL + ALT + DEL or Linux
reboot Command . Only Solution is to Hard Stop and then Start over again.I guess I'll have these plugged into a PDU and hopefully when I have some Time I can implement via ESPHome some WiFi Control for these PDUso at least I could implement some supervisory "Watchdog" to do a stop & start again
.Other Complain of course being the Fact that the Fans sound like Jet Engines during IPMI Startup and before BIOS/OS
.Sounds in general good! Actually they have some more pieces available, so im thinking of buying one for my lab.