HGST 4TB SAS hard drives $60

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I also was interested in that question @Filez for a while back, but came to the conclusion that just using HDDs for storage is much cheaper for me at least.
But i am interested to hear if there are any inexpensive used products can be had for tape drive storage as well :)
 
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wildpig1234

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offtopic, anybody have any suggestions for used tape drives for storage?
I also was interested in that question @Filez for a while back, but came to the conclusion that just using HDDs for storage is much cheaper for me at least.
But i am interested to hear if there are any inexpensive used products can be had for tape drive storage as well :)
Me too! Is tape somehow designed to have less magnetic and mechanical degradation compared to hdd? Unless there is a cheap optical media with at least 100GB capacity per disc and as cheap or cheaper than 25GB bd-r right now, I just don't see how i could move away from using hdd as storage and backup. Seems like nothing is as easy and efficient and cost effective. BD-R cost used to be cheaper but not anymore.
 
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Me too! Is tape somehow designed to have less magnetic and mechanical degradation compared to hdd? Unless there is a cheap optical media with at least 100GB capacity per disc and as cheap or cheaper than 25GB bd-r right now, I just don't see how i could move away from using hdd as storage and backup. Seems like nothing is as easy and efficient and cost effective. BD-R cost used to be cheaper but not anymore.
Dell PowerVault 114X LTO5, LTO6, LTO7, LTO8 Tape Rack Enclosure | eBay

and a corresponding drive. I read that tape drives can last upto 25 years.
 
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The parallel port might need a driver to work, although I'm not sure how win10 even works with parallel ports, lol.

Drive support basically became native from win95, so if you can get the hardware to recognize I think you're home free!
win10 even works with parallel ports

I found that sentence very funny for some reason : Windows 10 + Parallel Port
 
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I found a centronix cable in an old parts box while searching for something else in my garage couple of days ago. That box had couple IDE ribbon cables too :)
The problem is that back in the day, the parallel port was used with a driver to make it essentially into a scsi or ide controller connected via the parallel port. This was all done by the driver software, which I don't think would have continuing development. :(

That being said, the centronics port on your drive may actually be scsi, not parallel so be careful or you could end up shorting something out. :eek:
 

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I just bought a few from him.. He added a discount code SPECIALS to discount $5 from each of the drive so $34 each. I guess i will see how many hrs /data written once i get them

the $5 discount code will also work with the following on his site

HGST 200GB Ultrastar SSD1600MM

HGST 3TB Ultrastar 7K3000 HUS723030AL640
Did you just contact someone on the site before ordering? The code doesn't seem to work anymore and I am getting ready to buy some of the same drives.

Any word on how yours look?
 
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Did you just contact someone on the site before ordering? The code doesn't seem to work anymore and I am getting ready to buy some of the same drives.

Any word on how yours look?
Mine should be here this wk. takes a little time to go from west coast to east. msg him if code doesn't work anymore. maybe he ll reactivate it
 
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The problem is that back in the day, the parallel port was used with a driver to make it essentially into a scsi or ide controller connected via the parallel port. This was all done by the driver software, which I don't think would have continuing development. :(

That being said, the centronics port on your drive may actually be scsi, not parallel so be careful or you could end up shorting something out. :eek:

My sparq drive powered on but was not detected plugged into the parallel port on the win10 computer even after reboot ;(. also it made a high pitch screeching noise when i loaded a disk ;(
 

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So finally got a chance to hook up the 4TB hdd for testing on HD sentinel pro. out of the first 4 up, this is the worst one with the following stats. Please let me know if you would be worry about the total write and read error being corrected..

DSCN3462.JPG hgst1a.jpg hgst1b.jpg
 
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9 are good with no read or write errors. 1 has a few bad sectors and seller is sending a replacement.

There are a few with a fair amount of read/write at around 400TB but they have no read or write error. so i guess we will see about 3 yr from now how they are...lol..
 
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Glad these appeared to have worked out for you.

2015 Year of Manufacture is pretty solid for these at $34 a piece.

If you managed to get all May 2015 or later than March 2015, they should still be under manufacture's warranty too!

Did you burn in the drives or just read smart data?
 
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Glad these appeared to have worked out for you.

2015 Year of Manufacture is pretty solid for these at $34 a piece.

If you managed to get all May 2015 or later than March 2015, they should still be under manufacture's warranty too!

Did you burn in the drives or just read smart data?
I ran surface write and read back once on each drive. It's hard to believe how some of them have like several hundred TB of write and read....lol... I do have to say some of they are actually from 2013.

The one that have 12 bad sectors is from 2015 with only 4TB write and 7TB read. and that included my 4TB write and read test....lol... Se drive with 9X5X serial number
 

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I got 6 drives from this deal. Here is smart data from couple of them. First one as you can see has quite a lot of writes.

Anyone knows more about the ECC errors, is there any significance to them?

Code:
Manufactured in week 18 of year 2015
Specified cycle count over device lifetime:  50000
Accumulated start-stop cycles:  47
Specified load-unload count over device lifetime:  600000
Accumulated load-unload cycles:  827
Elements in grown defect list: 0
Vendor (Seagate) cache information
  Blocks sent to initiator = 39864870379716608
Error counter log:
           Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
               ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
           fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
read:     346765       23         0    346788    1314992     556493.415           0
write:         0        0         0         0    2923391    1093192.290           0
verify:       46        0         0        46        767          6.328           0
Non-medium error count:        0
Code:
Manufactured in week 20 of year 2015
Specified cycle count over device lifetime:  50000
Accumulated start-stop cycles:  33
Specified load-unload count over device lifetime:  600000
Accumulated load-unload cycles:  832
Elements in grown defect list: 0

Vendor (Seagate) cache information
  Blocks sent to initiator = 2292538283130880

Error counter log:
           Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
               ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
           fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
read:     635111      332         0    635443     434366     249677.323           0
write:         0        0         0         0      51946      56232.333           0
verify:     1460        6         0      1466      19551          3.425           0

Non-medium error count:        0
Code:
Manufactured in week 22 of year 2014
Specified cycle count over device lifetime:  50000
Accumulated start-stop cycles:  59
Specified load-unload count over device lifetime:  600000
Accumulated load-unload cycles:  1206
Elements in grown defect list: 0

Vendor (Seagate) cache information
  Blocks sent to initiator = 1995930442137600

Error counter log:
           Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
               ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
           fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
read:      18170       44         0     18214       5394      18889.039           0
write:         0        0         0         0      18108      23123.770           0
verify:    26940     2701         0     29641     175524        361.775           0

Non-medium error count:        0
 
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I have a lot of ecc errors too esp on the ones more heavily used. I think the one you have to worry most is the uncorrected errors..
 
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Yup, "uncorrected errors"and "elements in grown defect list" are the two main ones to look out for.
 
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I got 6 drives from this deal. Here is smart data from couple of them. First one as you can see has quite a lot of writes.

Anyone knows more about the ECC errors, is there any significance to them?


read: 556493.415
Write: 1093192.29
Is that 1093TB write? or 1PB? wow!
 
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