Gigabit + 10Gb Switches under $550

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  1. saivert

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    I ended up getting the CRS210-8G-2S+IN. Bought it with a 3M Miktotik DAC from eurodk.com. Currently using it as a dumb switch. Quite the learning curve when it comes to figuring out how VLANs are supposed to work on this. Primarily got it to get everything on the same network segment for simplicity with 10GbE server.
     
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  2. bateau

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    Much of this thread is about either 'entry level' switches, or older big name switches.
    The first either have a historical 'cheap' name (TP-link), or lack real reliability (the latest ubiquity 10G switches), or I have some bad experiences with them (TP-Link again, and Zyxel).
    The latter are in the vast majority power hungry and loud.

    So I went looking for some affordable big name, low power switches.

    My personal requirements:
    • Low power use. Not more than 25W idle. More power consumption means not only more noise, but also additional power consumption and noise for climate control.
    • At least 4 * SFP+
    • At least 10 * 1Gbe RJ45
    • VLAN management. Routing and other fancy L3 stuff is not needed.
    • Purchase price and license/maintenance/warranty cost should be 'acceptable'. That is what this thread is about.
    So I came up with the following:

    Note that prices listed are for NEW only, so refurbished/2nd hand hunting is in order in all of these cases. Which seems to be possible, at least for the Cisco switches.
    • Cisco SG350X-24 and SG550X-24: both about 850-1000 EUR, 33W max. Idle will be good.
    • Juniper EX2300-24T: about 700 EUR, 55W max. No idea what idle power consumption is. Probably over 35W when I look at the average ratios though.
    • Extreme Networks 220-48t-10GE4: about 1000 EUR, 27W idle (as derived from their BTU numbers).
    • Brocade ICX 6450-24: about 2000 EUR, 36W idle. Seems to require a license to enable all SFP+ ports. (This has bitten me before....)
    • Arista is way off, it does not seem to have an SMB offering.
    So that would mean Cisco, Juniper or Extreme.

    My questions:
    • Any other suggestions? Please be aware that I'm in Europe, so many ebay.com deals are not really deals for me due to transport and taxes.
    • I have no direct experience with Cisco, as I have always managed to steer around them. Used Brocade mostly lately, and Juniper and Extreme before then. Do I need SmartNet for the Cisco models mentioned?
    • Anybody knows what the idle consumption of the Juniper is?
     
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  3. _alex

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    if you can do with a total of 12 Ports, Dell x4012 has a quite low idle draw.
    for 10x 1gb rj45 you can use 1Gb rj45 sfp's on sfp+ ports, too.
    this brings more flexibility, as you could use an sfp+ - only switch with i.e 16 or 24 Ports.
    these can be found cheap, even in EU (in a couple of weeks i will get a bunch i wont need anyomore to Germany, pm if interested)
     
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  5. cheezehead

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    FWIW Taobao does have an english site.

    [USD 199.67] Gigabit switch, 4 port SFP + Gigabit + 24 port Gigabit switch 24-port Gigabit fiber Internet diskless - Taobao agent |Tmall agent - EnglishTaobao.net

    24port gig, 4SFP+ ~$200 USD

    It's pretty much a no-name switch from ShenZhenShi ADICS Technology Co (首页-深圳市阿帝克斯科技有限公司)

    Given the interesting price point and port count I did some digging and a number of manufactures build basically the same switch.

    Broadcom Chipset Switch 28 Ports 10gigabit Eterprise Switch - Buy Broadcom Chipset Switch,10gigabit Eterprise Switch,28 Ports Eterprise Switch Product on Alibaba.com

    Little bit cheaper and Zisa does know how to put their site in multiple languages (ZISA -Data Communication solution Provider |xDSL|DSLAM|Fiber|GEPON|SFP|Converter)
    Like many places over in the industrial part of China, they produce multiple skus that are very similar in nature. S4700-28X has a front mounted PSU while the OP4700-28X has rear mounting for the PSU. Both are fanless, draw less than 20w, and are L3 lite switches.

    They also sell the non-SFP+ variant on Amazon...at a slightly higher price point
    Amazon.com: Buying Choices: ZISA Gigabits Optical SFP Ethernet Intelligent Switch with 24 GE Ports, and 4 SFP Slot
     
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    Right now the Mikrotik CRS317 + a CSS326 is a pretty potent combo.

    Two low power switches and you can use 1-2 SFP+ ports for uplinks to the CRS317 all for around $500.

    Should I delete the impacted links?
     
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  8. cheezehead

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    Nice feature...a lot of those sites are just getting shady.

    FWIW, if you check ebay periodically sometimes surplus companies will mis-price equipment and you get a the sfp+ variants for sfp variant prices;).
     
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    Going to Necro this thread, but I think this might be the best deal out there for 10Gb Switches.
    Seeing a lot of Cisco UCS 6120xp and UCS 6140xp gear being disposed of. These are 20/40 port 10GB SFP+ switches.
    They can be flashed to the Cisco Nexus Software and become a Nexus 5010/5020.

    Going rate seems to be around $150
     
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    What? UCS6100 can run NX-OS? Do you have a link for how this is done?
     
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  12. dwasdfdafadfwfafd

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    new Juniper EX2300-12T/P is currently in this range
     
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  13. i386

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    The specs look good, sadly the price in Europe is high (550€+, ~640$) :(
     
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    $420 for EX2300-C-12T
    $462 for EX2300-24T
    $525 for EX2300-C-12P

    Search results for 'ex2300'
     
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  16. cheezehead

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    Netgear GS728TXS - sub $300 anyday, lowest seen was sub $150.
    24x gig ports, 4x SFP+ ports (1w per port active on the SFP+ side), and idles at 25w empty.
     
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  17. Peanuthead

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    I haven’t seen that switch in the us48 that cheap ever.
     
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  18. i386

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    The only switch with (2x) 10gbe ports and poe that I know is the HP Aruba 2930F 8G, but it's over $550 (new).
     
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  19. pyro_

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    Juniper ex2300c is fanless and I believe comes in a poe version but not sure if you will be able to find under 550$ even used
     
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  20. zhoulander

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    Picked up a T1700G-28Q. This thing sips power. 12W from the wall idle nothing attached. Fanless is such a relief... worth trading away 40Gb for a home lab.
     
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