Findings with Asrock W790-WS, Xeon SPR-SP D0, and BCLK OC (and lack thereof)

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Kizune

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As promised - here’s the R2.0 BIOS that I got from support. It eliminates the secure boot issue - otherwise it is the same as 3.01 they have on the download page on their servers. Link will be good for at least a month, hopefully ASRock will have it on their official site by that time. Note that ASRock support recommended to do the BIOS flashback operation to flash this version - meaning renaming .rom file to creative.rom, putting it on a USB stick and inserting it into the correct USB port, then doing power on with BIOS flashback button pressed until flashback LED starts blinking then waiting for 10 minutes and do the power cycle. Enjoy. W790-WS R2.0 BIOS 4.03
 
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I also got the 6.02 BIOS for my Asrock which fixed the secure boot issue. I am using the computer as my primary development machine now with a dedicated TPM chip, which runs more stable then firmware TPM.

I am running this MB with QYK8 CPU with a single 32GB dimm. Still shopping for dimms (bought one, lost during delivery, bought another one, DOA, bought 2 16GB Dimms, I got delivered hard drives instead.).

I probably need to disable hyperthread and perhaps some of the cores to optimize the performance. Not tried BCLK overclocking yet on this one. I am now scared of messing up the system, especially after burning the previous QYK8.
 

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Bumping to report that I'll finally test Q071 (R0 MCC, 32c64t) and the ASRock W790 WS in the next month or so.

I sold my ASUS W790 board; don't need two. The ASRock and its VRM is one I'd like to keep for overclocking the W-2500 series at some point, or server use with Q071 if its idle power draw is low enough.

I'll get QYFU and ASRock reassembled and push my Xeon X5675 4.61GHz aside; I change platforms lots for amusement.

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Emerald Rapids WS hopes are dead in the water, Intel having killed those off in what can be interpreted as an official statement on a Youtube video comment on [1]. Seems to check out on Linkedin too.

I would have liked to see unlocked 30 or 32-core MCC 8-channel on W790, but oh well.
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[1] Intel Hits Refresh on Sapphire Rapids! Xeon W2595 Tested - YouTube
 

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Q071 arrived with no POST. Guessing DOA. Incompatible - see my next post.
 
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gank noob

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sure. there is no microcode and no BIOS support for SPR-HBM in any W790 BIOS.
and SPR-HBM needs add. voltage to the socket.
ah, i see. thank you. i've been pondering whether to go with c741 or the w790 chipset. reading this thread, with people having success with the Xeon platinum, which i thought wouldn't be possible, gave me a glimmer of hope that the max could work on w790 as well. i'll go with the either the asus w790 pro sage or Supermicro X13SWA-TF and a xeon platinum cpu. this thread has been very helpful in helping me narrow down my choices for my next build. my x299 is still going strong, so i'm not in a rush.
 

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Since this seems to be the Asrock W790 thread, I figured I'd ask around here as well.

I currently have Asrock W790 Bios 3.01 with W3-2423 CPU. For workstation purposes, am I better off sticking with W series processors and waiting for a chance to get one at a lower price, or is there a D0 ES CPU that would work well? I'm hoping to get one working without too much hassle, and I would like to know which one ended up being the smoothest-performing of those that will work with this motherboard.

I would rather use an R0 ES, but I've read that they don't work with the Asrock - which I got because it was $150 damaged and the W3 was $40 and I repaired the board, not because of a strong preference. That said, it may be cheaper to get an Asus or Gigabyte as a workstation ($500-700 ish used/new) and use a Q071 or Q079 ($150) if I want a fast system with a monolithic chip than to get a proper Xeon W7 ($1000+) for my Asrock.

Also, I looked at the Asrock BIOS section, and it still ends at 4.04. Does anyone have the BIOS file that was here before? Both links are dead. Alternatively, I was thinking I might audaciously ask Asrock if they can give me a BIOS with the R0 CPUs enabled if such a thing was possible...
 

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it may be cheaper to get an Asus or Gigabyte as a workstation ($500-700 ish used/new) and use a Q071 or Q079
Gigabyte W790 do not support SPR-SP D0/R0
Also, I looked at the Asrock BIOS section, and it still ends at 4.04. Does anyone have the BIOS file that was here before?
all there.
4.04 4.02 4.01 3.05 3.04 3.01 2.02
Asrock if they can give me a BIOS with the R0 CPUs enabled if such a thing was possible
SPR-SP D0 work is not intention. R0 not work is not intention. it is not logical for me.
retail R0 are working.
 

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Gigabyte W790 do not support SPR-SP D0/R0

all there.
4.04 4.02 4.01 3.05 3.04 3.01 2.02

SPR-SP D0 work is not intention. R0 not work is not intention. it is not logical for me.
retail R0 are working.
Ah, I thought there was a special non-public BIOS needed to work with D0 CPUs that had been mentioned in this thread, so I was confused.
Mine is the first Asrock W790, not the R2.0. For the Gigabyte thing, I had mixed up their omni-ES server boards and their WS boards.
I'll ask sellers of Q071 and see if any of them know if it works with Asrock W790 or not. It's E1B so I'm not hopeful, but it would be wonderful if it did. My BIOS is already just 3.01, so it shouldn't need to change if it works with the Q071. Thanks!
 

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The Chinese sellers did not know, as expected. Is QYFU, QYFQ, or QYFP the best/most stable for Asrock W790? I was feeling like the chips intended for multiple slot motherboards and having accelerators that may or may not work properly would be better off avoided for a 1S workstation system, but correct me if I'm wrong and one of the other QY** D0s is the best for my system.
If I can find an Asus board cheap/damaged at some point in the future and repair it, then I might order the R0 chips and test them on the Asrock since at least then I'll have a system that I know they should work on.
 

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Is QYFU, QYFQ, or QYFP the best/most stable for Asrock W790?
no, QYFS/QYFR (or if you want one of the three, QYFU)
I was feeling like the chips intended for multiple slot motherboards and having accelerators that may or may not work properly would be better off avoided for a 1S workstation system
no reason. there are single socket C741 boards work with all 2S capable CPU.
 

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no, QYFS/QYFR (or if you want one of the three, QYFU)

no reason. there are single socket C741 boards work with all 2S capable CPU.
Is there any particular reason to use those two over the others? Is it because they have the same numbers of cores/threads as one of the Xeon W chips and the WS board works better with an expected core count? Also, I read that some unlocked CPUs such as the Q075 exist. Are there any D0s that are unlocked, or is it limited to certain R0s?

There's currently a QYFR selling from America for a decent price, but I want to know all I can before I go for it. I had read that one of these QY**s does not require C-states to be modified in order for it to boot to desktop - which one was that for certain?
 

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Is there any particular reason to use those two over the others?
350W, more boost clocks.
QYFS TDP=350W boost 3700
QYFU TDP=300W boost 3500
QYFQ,QYFP TDP=270W boost 3300
and the WS board works better with an expected core count?
no.
Are there any D0s that are unlocked, or is it limited to certain R0s?
yes. but not seen to buy.
SPR-WS ES2 D0 (QYQU) 56C/112T – 105 MB 350W
SPR-WS ES2 D0 (QYQV) 36C/72T – 67.5 MB 300W
SPR-WS ES2 D0 (QYQW) 12C/24T – 30 MB 200W

allmost all D0 have unlocked memory controller.
I had read that one of these QY**s does not require C-states to be modified in order for it to boot to desktop - which one was that for certain?
afaik only the QYFP
for other you set Package C-state to C2, AUTO will let mesh/LLC sleep.
this is BIOS behave, made for SPR-WS not for SPR-SP.
 
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