Evolving Your OpenClaw Strategy and How to Pick Your Servers

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T_Minus

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to think most openClaw complaints would be resolved by using a better model...

Like the '90s mantra… RTFM! :D
 
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Patrick

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to think most openClaw complaints would be resolved by using a better model...

Like the '90s mantra… RTFM! :D
The number of times I see people who are running tiny models and are like "look at how fast it is" but then get poor results is amazing. In Taiwan this week I have seen three live demos fail because of this. We hooked the demo up to Qwen3.5-397B-A17B as an example, and the failures turned into one shots.

Also - "you can run this under your desk and run your sales flows off of it". I ask "what if the power goes out, or the machine hangs? Does your business stop?"
 

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So help me out here. I've been able to successfully get openclaw installed and using a Qwen3.5 model under LMStudio that can fit locally in the 32GB on my Pro 4500. I've been able to talk to it, have it do stuff and all that, but I'm just not conceptualizing in my mind how I can make this *really* useful.

@Patrick your article Dell GB10 Automation was interesting as it showed one possible use case, but I'm still not seeing how joe general user like me can really take advantage of this stuff. So far all I've seen (especially with the MSP at my employer) is the dumbing down the group of people who can really think for themselves, and all they do is follow the instructions that (insert preferred major AI provider) tells them to do. And then it takes an experienced person like me to fix all the problems created by the instructions that those people followed and managed to break whatever respective network they were working in.

I want to embrace this technology, but I'm just not seeing how. Help me out here?
 

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@ccie4526 I am about to board a plane but three quick tips:
1. Make agents with personalities (e.g. look into Soul.md)
2. Build your own skills or get ones you can relatively trust from ClawHub.

Those two will help guide agents a lot. Think of them as people, maybe like hiring a contractor that can do specific tasks.

Start with a high-level objective. Then just ask how to best accomplish it. Go from a plan (either in a planning mode or just interactively) to an implementation process. Then have a deploy and a monitor process.

Breaking down work like that will get you going.

I would strongly suggest starting on something that is a reasonable size that you want to do, but have never had time or expertise to do. Use that passion project as a starting point. Do not do something too small because the models can do a lot. You want to get to the experience where you can walk away for a few hours and have it work.

3. When things break, it is often due to a small/ older model. That is not just in the actual workflow. Using something like an Opus/ Sonnet or Codex to set everything up is actually quite helpful.

Bonus tip: Get the agent a web browser it can use, and point it to research. For example, if you are configuring a MikroTik switch, tell it to look up documentation or point it to documentation you had bookmarked.

I almost wonder if this is worth having its own thread.
 
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I'd like the idea of a new thread where people could share their implementations, what they're using them for, etc., etc.... as it would hopefully give others (like me) ideas on what can be done.

Wish I were boarding a plane too, but current employer doesn't have me traveling anywhere near as much any more. It sucked losing 1K after over 10 years with it.... so now I'm just a lousy 2MM lifetime platinum. ;)
 

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Wish I were boarding a plane too, but current employer doesn't have me traveling anywhere near as much any more. It sucked losing 1K after over 10 years with it.... so now I'm just a lousy 2MM lifetime platinum. ;)
I'm probably 2-3 years from 2MM. My wife is pushing for the 2MM because in 2027 at 1MM she will not get 1K. I told her I am not going to do 400K this year so she will lose 1K next year.