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vabch22

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Hey guys, new to the whole buying ES Xeon's. I need to save some cash, so that is why I am going this route. However, trying to figure out what Q-Specs/stepping are closest to the OEM release has me spinning in circles. I am looking to build either a single or dual socket 2011-v3 server. Which CPU offering from xtrememicro (I believe that seller has the best ratings on ebay) should I go with? I am looking to keep it below $350 per CPU. I will be running the CPU(s) in a SuperMicro mobo. I was originally looking at something like the E5-2670v3, but don't want to buy something that doesn't have turbo on all cores or support VT-d. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I was hoping to find a cheat sheet somewhere w/ the Q-Spec's and stepping info, but no luck yet (or the seller doesn't have anything listed besides stepping 1). Thanks!
 

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I don't know the spec off top fo my head and won't be taking it apart to check, sorry. If you knwo wher eI can find it in vspere or command line I can check.
 

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I want to build a general purpose server which will double up as a NAS (using Supermicro X10Dri-T). Is there any downside to ES cpus which could lead to data corruption?
 

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I was wondering if there is a list (other then from the sellers on ebay) of motherboards that actually work with ES v3 and v4 cpu's ..? Would like to see some confirmation from actual people running this hardware at home

Maybe an idea for a sticky with: motherboard brand - Type - BIOS Version - ES cpu type?
 
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I was wondering if there is a list (other then from the sellers on ebay) of motherboards that actually work with ES v3 and v4 cpu's ..? Would like to see some confirmation from actual people running this hardware at home

Maybe an idea for a sticky with: motherboard brand - Type - BIOS Version - ES cpu type?

from a ebay listing
System Compatibility (Updated 6/11/2016):

The following is a list of products that we have tested to be compatible:

Servers & Workstations:

  • Dell: PowerEdge R430/R530/T430 (BIOS 2.0.1), R630/R730/R730XD (BIOS 2.1.6), M630/FC630/M630 VRTX (BIOS 2.1.6), T630 (BIOS 2.1.5), C4130 (BIOS 2.1.5), C6320 (BIOS 2.1.5); Precision T5810 (BIOS A12), T7810 (BIOS A12), T7910 (BIOS A12), R7910 (BIOS 2.0.3)
Motherboards:

  • Supermicro: X10S series (all models with BIOS R2.0), X10D series (all models with BIOS R2.0), C7X99-OCE (BIOS R2.0)
  • Tyan: S562 series (BIOS V2.00), S707 series (BIOS V2.00), S708 series (BIOS V2.00)
  • Asus: Z10PA-D8 (BIOS 3107), Z10PE-D16 (BIOS 3104), Z10PR-D16 (BIOS 3104), Z10PE-D16 WS (BIOS 3204)
  • ASRock: EPC612 series (all models with BIOS 2.10), FH-C612NM (BIOS 1.10); X99 series (all models with BIOS 3.00 or above)
  • MSI: X99 Godlike Gaming Carbon (BIOS 2.3); X99A XPower Gaming Titanium; X99A Gaming Pro Carbon (BIOS 1.1); X99A Gaming 9 ACK (BIOS 3.4); X99S Gaming 9 AC (BIOS 1.B); X99A XPower AC (BIOS A.5); X99S XPower AC (BIOS 1.B); X99A/S Gaming 7 (BIOS H.E); X99A Raider (BIOS P.4)
  • EVGA: X99 Family (all models with BIOS 2.01 or above)
Note: A BIOS upgrade may be necessary for motherboards manufactured prior to the introduction of Xeon E5-2600 v4 series.

The following is a list of products that we have tested to be incompatible:

Servers & Workstations:

  • HP servers and workstations: support V4 processors with B0/M0/R0 stepping only
Motherboards:

  • Asus X99 series (all models): stalk at Q-Code 19 after reboot; support V4 (pre-)QS or production processors only
  • Asus Z10PE-D8 WS (BIOS 3204): cannot power on when the 2nd CPU is installed; supports V4 (pre-)QS or production processors for dual-CPU configuration
  • Gigabyte X99 series (all models with BIOS F22): boot loop; support V4 processors with B0/M0/R0 stepping only
  • MSI X99 series (all models with BIOS released prior to 05/23/2016): boot loop; support V4 processors with B0/M0/R0 stepping only
Note: Please look for V4 QS processors or 24-core QHYH processor in our eBay store that are compatible to these products.
 

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What happens if the mobo (Asus Z10) comes with an older BIOS? Will it boot at some low speed and allow a BIOS update at some stage or it won't work at all and we'd need to find a "proper" CPU to do BIOS update first?
 
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socra

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Yeah, that is what I mean...I know for a fact that list is incorrect that is why I was wondering if the topicstarter would be so kind to put a sticky in the topic with stuff that people have running or tested for themselves.

We are already pioneering here so why not take it all the way :)
 

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Thanks a lot!

Since that CPU seems to dissapear from stock all the time, I wonder if anyone can recommend other V3 or V4 cpus that have around 2000 Cinebench score and 1-2 core Turbo of 3.5GHz or more, and work well with multiple gpus. Will be ordering parts in September, so if the 2686V3 isn't available, need an alternative.
I'm simply looking to build a single cpu workstation for 3d and video work. I had a dual E5-2660 (V1) system before and would like to at least match that system in cpu rendering performance, and get higher turbo speed for single threaded applications.
In preparation for possible use of gpu renderers (one reason why I avoid 5820k/6800k), and after looking at recommended boards from ebay sellers, I'm going for an Asrock X99 WS (the simplest one of their WS line). Anyone has an ES chip in this board?
 

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What happens if the mobo (Asus Z10) comes with an older BIOS? Will it boot at some low speed and allow a BIOS update at some stage or it won't work at all and we'd need to find a "proper" CPU to do BIOS update first?
My guess would be the latter, can't do much if you can't get to the bios
 

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I believe that's the workstation board I moved into my bakup NAS system @socra
 
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If that's your backup, I wonder what you're using for primary NAS ;)
 

T_Minus

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Well it's a backup ESXI Host too with my NAS on it :) as the only VM currently ;)
 

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Still interested if anyone is runnning: E5-2658 v3 - QEYP, as it looks like the best deal out there.
Any alternatives? Faster without HT may be?
 

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Not sure if this belongs in this thread, but does anyone know if these E5-2695 V2's on eBay would work with an Asus Z9-PAD8?

Intel Xeon E5 2695 V2 QS 2.4Ghz 30MB L3 12 Core Max Turbo 3.2GGhz 115W CPU

I have the Asus board and dual E5-2670's on the way, but after reading more about ES chips and eBay chips in general, I'm wondering if the 2695 v2 or even 2697 v2 would be a better purchase. If I install the E5-2670's now, would it be relatively simple to swap them out for 2695 v2's or 2697 v2's later on?

This is all LGA 2011 as far as I know, so any of these chips should just work, right?
 

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Not sure if this belongs in this thread, but does anyone know if these E5-2695 V2's on eBay would work with an Asus Z9-PAD8?

Intel Xeon E5 2695 V2 QS 2.4Ghz 30MB L3 12 Core Max Turbo 3.2GGhz 115W CPU

I have the Asus board and dual E5-2670's on the way, but after reading more about ES chips and eBay chips in general, I'm wondering if the 2695 v2 or even 2697 v2 would be a better purchase. If I install the E5-2670's now, would it be relatively simple to swap them out for 2695 v2's or 2697 v2's later on?

This is all LGA 2011 as far as I know, so any of these chips should just work, right?
For any cpu/motherboard check socket type for both. If they match then the cpu is compatible with the motherboard. You might also want to check TDP for both cpu and motherboard.
As for swapping cpus it should be an easy task.
 
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