ES Xeon Discussion

[Jointer]

Hi again to everyone.
I was using 2x V4 QHVD in Asus Z10PE-D8 for about 8 months, where one day (well, actually deep night) the system died with CATT_ERR lit on after every boot.
I was able to isolate it to secondary CPU (the damaged one, see my old posts), because the system was working fine with the "primary" CPU, but not with secondary CPU. I replaced the board, which did not helped and i was not able to boot with this CPU in both old or new board.
However, after getting another CPU, i encountered following issues:
- board stuck in early POST with B7 error (NVRAM reset) - resolved by swapping CPUs, removing RAM modules, swapping RAM modules (this error i also got when i was trying the damaged CPU in new board - but the old board did not had this issue, instead it was unable to boot, with CATT_ERR when system should load)
- board does not show any image after boot - removing both my nVidia cards helped - same thing happened on BIOS upgrade

It might be it is caused by RAM, so i will run Memtest on it, but, does anyone have similar experience?
I hope it will be fine, but i finished it today...

Also, in case i would like to try the CPU in single socket board, will MSI X99A SLI PLUS work?
It seems it is the cheapest one i can get and i seen in this thread that MSI Raider is working.
Will it work with normal DDR4 memory?
Get 2400MHz CL16 or CL17?

I would like to give it one more try, before i throw the CPU in a dark corner.
Thanks.

 

[wildpig1234]

what about for dual cpu? what MB has the best dual ES cpu support? My asus z10ped16-ws is doing fine with two 2686 v3 QS cpu but just wondering..

 

[udlr]

I'm looking for a 3.0GHz+ single thread CPU, to build a 'datacenter-in-a-box' gaming (VFIO) + virtual machine host (Alpine) + router (pfSense) server.

What is the best ES/QS Xeon to buy nowadays? I'm looking at the QGN8.

 

[wildpig1234]

What is the experience of SM Board and ES/QS cpu?

Would X9DAX-iF play nice with E7-4880 v2 ES? It's 15 cores! so more cores than e5-26xx v2. I think that's the highest you can reach for v2... Does anyone know of a dual cpu v2 board that works well with ES/QS?

 

[Davewolfs]

What is the experience of SM Board and ES/QS cpu?

Would X9DAX-iF play nice with E7-4880 v2 ES? It's 15 cores! so more cores than e5-26xx v2. I think that's the highest you can reach for v2... Does anyone know of a dual cpu v2 board that works well with ES/QS?

Just go Epyc.

 

[Davewolfs]

E5-2667 V3 QEYY:

Intel Xeon E5-2667 V3 ES QEYY 3.2GHz 8Core 20MB 140W LGA2011-3 CPU Processor | eBay

It's the highest clocked ES2 V3 Xeon I've found. There is also the QEYA but that is an ES2 clocked at 2.9Ghz. It's also 8c/16t which should be sufficient for most tasks. However if you need a higher core version that boosts to 3.0Ghz+ on all cores it will definitely get more expensive.

How do you think the 2667 V2 would stand against the V3?

 

[wildpig1234]

How do you think the 2667 V2 would stand against the V3?

it all depends on what v3 cpu you pick and if your task are highly threaded or single thread.

 

[wildpig1234]

Just go Epyc.

There are instances of being able to beat epyc and TR with xeon for cheaper.

 

[Davewolfs]

There are instances of being able to beat epyc and TR with xeon for cheaper.

Cheaper isn't cheaper when they release the next gen compatible with today's chipset.

 

[Davewolfs]

it all depends on what v3 cpu you pick and if your task are highly threaded or single thread.

2667 v2 vs 2667 v3

 

[wildpig1234]

2667 v2 vs 2667 v3

It's close. if you go strictly by clock, v2 would slightly beat v3 for both single and multithread. then again IPC might make some difference in certain apps?

userbenchmark show v2 slightly better than v3. some other bench shows v3 better....

certainly ddr3 is much cheaper than ddr4.

 

[udlr]

E5-2667 V3 QEYY:

Intel Xeon E5-2667 V3 ES QEYY 3.2GHz 8Core 20MB 140W LGA2011-3 CPU Processor | eBay

It's the highest clocked ES2 V3 Xeon I've found. There is also the QEYA but that is an ES2 clocked at 2.9Ghz. It's also 8c/16t which should be sufficient for most tasks. However if you need a higher core version that boosts to 3.0Ghz+ on all cores it will definitely get more expensive.

Thank you!

What about those with more than 10 cores? Do you by any chance have a list of all those 3.0GHz+ (both normal and turbo clocks) CPUs?

I have a budget of EUR 600,- for the CPU.

 

[wildpig1234]

Thank you!

What about those with more than 10 cores? Do you by any chance have a list of all those 3.0GHz+ (both normal and turbo clocks) CPUs?

I have a budget of EUR 600,- for the CPU.

Here's the comprehensive list with the turbo speed. find what you like and then find on ebay

List of Intel Xeon microprocessors - Wikipedia

 

[vegeta]

I'm hitting issues with my DeLuxe II (Consumer X99, LGA 2011 v3) and with my Z10-PE-D16.

The only stable systems are the Supermicro's. Fortunately I do have 2x 2620 v4 for a low price, but I'd like to scale above motherboards up.

The Asus Z10-PE-D16's second socket doesn't even work with my official Xeons though.

 

[wildpig1234]

I'm hitting issues with my DeLuxe II (Consumer X99, LGA 2011 v3) and with my Z10-PE-D16.

The only stable systems are the Supermicro's. Fortunately I do have 2x 2620 v4 for a low price, but I'd like to scale above motherboards up.

The Asus Z10-PE-D16's second socket doesn't even work with my official Xeons though.

2nd socket doesn't work at all? that's weird? I am running dual 2686 v3 QS right now on same MB...

 

[vegeta]

It doesn't work with legit Xeon CPU's, err, I'll try again in a bit and else I'll RMA it. It's a new board, never worked, but good to know that this set-up should work fine.

 

[vegeta]

My bios is up to date. My stepping says 0000, is that bad?

I got these CPU's.

Intel Xeon E5 V4 ES 12C/24T 1,7 - 2,3 GHz Sockel 2011-3 x99 65W ähnlich 2628L v4 | eBay
€129 $150

Intel Xeon E5 2630 V4 ES QHVK 2.1GHz 25MB 10Core 20threads 14nm 85W CPU
€150 $175

I also have real 2620 V4's, got them for €200. Warranty until 2020.

Could you explain a little more?

 

[vegeta]

I appreciate that!

You would run FreeNAS safely on a server with a QS CPU, but not with a ES2 CPU, right?

I might use a real Intel CPU for FreeNAS via Vmware passthrough and the ES2 CPU's for some other virtual machines.

 

[vegeta]

My concern would be microcode that would interpret CREATE file as DELETE file, so data loss.

It's homelab, but I'd be nice to have an estimate of how much you can trust it.

 

[PaulMD]

I picked up a Gigabyte GA-X99-SLI for free and was looking to put a Xeon ES on it. Here's the support list.

This rig is mostly going to be doing video encoding so my goal is to maximize multi-threaded performance (lots of cores). I'd like to keep this as cheap as possible with a worthwhile level of performance. I could maybe do $300 if there was a significant step in performance, but my ideal price range is $150-200. I certainly don't mind high-clock options, but from the looking I've done the price increases pretty drastically for anything more than 6 cores and the higher core count seems like a better fit for my needs (and also more efficient).

Model QEYN (2650v3, 10C with 2.2 GHz base) seems to be the sweet spot to me, the list says it supports stepping M0, and I've successfully used one on a similar board (Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4). I don't see the QEYP (2658 v3) on the support list, but one person here reported success with it on a Gigabyte board. Am I missing any other good options here given my price range?

Thanks for your help!