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RolloZ170

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QVV5 and QYGH CPU must light up with the 806f1 microcode(other limitation still not discovered),
the 806f1 microcode inside is platform 10 (SPR HBM) not platform 87 SPR-SP
you need 806f1_87
you can add microcode with MMTool and repair correct RBU checksum to flash in BMCWebGUI
 

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the 806f1 microcode inside is platform 10 (SPR HBM) not platform 87 SPR-SP
you need 806f1_87
you can add microcode with MMTool and repair correct RBU checksum to flash in BMCWebGUI
Sure. I will try to add that. Thanks ; )

I will also report the later results.
 

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QVV5 and QYGH CPU must light up with the 806f1 microcode(other limitation still not discovered), which is removed in the later version.
Not even in F06. The version mentioned earlier got the SPR-A- step microcode inside.
sorry i had no coffee, for QYGH platform 10 is correct.
i still looked only for QVV5 which i guess is not a HBM model ?
 

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Sure. I will try to add that. Thanks ; )

I will also report the later results.
MS33-AR0 BIOS F01
Code:
F01
1. [Feature] Update RC 86D.16 (EagleStream BKC 2022 WW35).
2. [Feature] SPR D0-Stepping \ MCC - m_87_806f3_8d000510 ; SPR E Stepping:
m_87_806f7_ab000060; SPR HBM B-Steppping: m_10_806f8_ac000060; SPR Production D0
Step: m_87_806f3_0d0004b1 ; SPR Production E Step: m_87_806f7_2b000041 ;
3. [Feature] Update VROC driver to v8.0.0.1336.
4. [Feature] SPR HBM A stepping is no longer supported from this BIOS version.
[Feature] SPR HBM A stepping is no longer supported from this BIOS version.
you need Debug BIOS D18 but i have never seen.
 

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sorry i had no coffee, for QYGH platform 10 is correct.
i still looked only for QVV5 which i guess is not a HBM model ?
Yes I believe it is a SPR-SP XCC es (56Core maybe?)

I went through the other imformation, QVV5 might not require 806f1 indeed, however that is not 100% sure.

D18 version will definitely be the best to test, F04 is the latest version which support SPR-HBM A- according to the update log. However D - - version will be the internal BIOS I suppose?
 

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F04 is the latest version which support SPR-HBM A- according to the update log
no F01
edit: F01 does not support any HBM models.
Code:
F01
1. [Feature] Update RC 86D.16 (EagleStream BKC 2022 WW35).
2. [Feature] SPR D0-Stepping \ MCC - m_87_806f3_8d000510 ; SPR E Stepping:
m_87_806f7_ab000060; SPR HBM B-Steppping: m_10_806f8_ac000060; SPR Production D0
Step: m_87_806f3_0d0004b1 ; SPR Production E Step: m_87_806f7_2b000041 ;
3. [Feature] Update VROC driver to v8.0.0.1336.
4. [Feature] SPR HBM A stepping is no longer supported from this BIOS version.
D - - version will be the internal BIOS I suppose?
yes. have seen T (Test) BIOS but not D ones.
 

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no F01
edit: F01 does not support any HBM models.
Code:
F01
1. [Feature] Update RC 86D.16 (EagleStream BKC 2022 WW35).
2. [Feature] SPR D0-Stepping \ MCC - m_87_806f3_8d000510 ; SPR E Stepping:
m_87_806f7_ab000060; SPR HBM B-Steppping: m_10_806f8_ac000060; SPR Production D0
Step: m_87_806f3_0d0004b1 ; SPR Production E Step: m_87_806f7_2b000041 ;
3. [Feature] Update VROC driver to v8.0.0.1336.
4. [Feature] SPR HBM A stepping is no longer supported from this BIOS version.
yes. have seen T (Test) BIOS but not D ones.
rare panda, D ver is.

But I've tried to use F06 and MS33-AR0 just few hours ago, and it did actually lights up. And of course it will stuck somewhere: Memory Intalizition code:B1. May because of incomplete memory control?

At least it is a good news, maybe will work with later BIOS+microcode.
 

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But I've tried to use F06 and MS33-AR0 just few hours ago, and it did actually lights up. And of course it will stuck somewhere: Memory Intalizition code:B1. May because of incomplete memory control?
some not funtional without microcode.
At least it is a good news, maybe will work with later BIOS+microcode.
doubt that.
SPR D0 ES (like QYFS ) stoppped working at Intel CSI/MRC ver. 115.D14 update
 

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How do (US English only) people buy stuff off GooFish? I think I may need this eventually but the entire site seems pretty inaccessible for non-Chinese speaking people... This is a custom part so can't really find it anywhere else.
 

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How do (US English only) people buy stuff off GooFish?
i use superbuy agent to buy there, 20cny fee. it will be delivered to superbuy warehouse. you can merge multiple items in one parcel from there.
the VRM power stages are soldered to the motherboards pcb. air flow to the underside will help alot, you can put big thermal pads to sink heat to the case/chassis.
 
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How do (US English only) people buy stuff off GooFish? I think I may need this eventually but the entire site seems pretty inaccessible for non-Chinese speaking people... This is a custom part so can't really find it anywhere else.
Just use the translator, it will be fine. I've met a buyer who claim him selves was a Korean, and he use a really… bad translator, the sentence was translated in a very machinery but its fine with understanding the meanings.

However there is a few reminders:

1.The engeering samples seller is not usually independent, especially when thay've posted more than 100 goods(Most of the circumstances). Be careful when communicated with them, try to not leak unnecessary information to businessman of es products, to protect the global market and es players. Thank you.

2. There is spaces to the actual price, you could ask for discounts on there “original price” in a reasonable range.

3. Must ask for the real video of a series of nesscery tests to make sure the goods is really good before shipping.

4. Don't pretend you are a Chinese.

5. If the seller shows a bad aultutide or pretend they are "i-touchable" , switch to another one immediately.

6. If these are too complex, find a agent.
 
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try this. F01 with added HBM A microcode
Hi there,

For now the feedback of the machine is blank.

Well actually there are some feedbacks, which is after waiting for 30 minutes the BMC console still "NO SIGNAL", and the image output of VGA is nothing.
Not sure if it is the F01 BIOS it self is incomplete enough…… or the acm wall thing.

I'm currently still trying to seek for the F04 of AR0, at least it is the later version of "fix SPR-A- CPU lunch issue" report.

However no matter this result, thanks a lot for modifying this BIOS : )

PS: The rbu file was flashed though BMC and verified via Q03K at the first time of setup.
 
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sure. rare D0 SPR-WS, the reason why SPR-SP D0 ES working.
QS are sometimes offered cheap.
with a QYFS and disabled half of the cores you can get 28x 3700mhz
or QYK8 28x 4Ghz.
Code:
SPR-WS ES2    D0 (QYQU)            56C/112T
SPR-WS ES2    D0 (QYQV)            36C/72T
SPR-WS ES2    D0 (QYQW)            12C/24T
Xeon W9-3495X    E2,E3 (Q0TU,Q19N,Q19R) 56C/112T
Xeon W9-3475X    E2,E3 (Q19M),Q19S) 36C/72T
Xeon W7-3465X    E2,E3 (Q19L),Q19T) 28C/56T
Xeon W5-3435X    E2,E3 (Q19H,(Q19W) 16C/32T


Xeon W7-2495X    R0 Q07X
Xeon W7-2495X    S2,S3 (Q283,Q1WR)
Personally I think Q0TU is more likely to be a scalable es.

In CPU-Z it is a "Genuine Intel" but step 5(probably a late stage es), and support PMem300 module on Supermicro and gigabyte 16-dimm slots platforms. Plus, it could work in duo cpu boards.

Didn''t try to use Q19R+C741+DCPMM yet

Hope this information will be helpful.

PS: However Q0TU is a monster, 3.9GHz and 82000+ cinebenchR23 score per CPU with hyper thread on. Just can't imagine the power it costs.
 
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I'm currently still trying to seek for the F04 of AR0, at least it is the later version of "fix SPR-A- CPU lunch issue" report.
MS33-AR0 BIOS F06
[Bug Fix] Fix SPR-HBM CPU can't boot up.
Code:
F06
1. [Bug Fix] Fix SPR-HBM CPU can't boot up.
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F05
1. [Feature] Import SPR HBM Bx stepping microcode.
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F04
1. [Feature] Update Ami kernel 5.29_EagleStreamCrb_0ACOR_065.
2. [Feature] Update RC 89.D01 (EagleStream BKC 2022 WW41).
3. [Feature] SPR D0-Stepping \ MCC - m_87_806f3_8d000520 ; SPR E Stepping:
  m_87_806f7_ab0000c0; SPR HBM A-Steppping: m_10_806f1_800003c0;
 
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Code:
F06
1. [Bug Fix] Fix SPR-HBM CPU can't boot up.
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F05
1. [Feature] Import SPR HBM Bx stepping microcode.
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F04
1. [Feature] Update Ami kernel 5.29_EagleStreamCrb_0ACOR_065.
2. [Feature] Update RC 89.D01 (EagleStream BKC 2022 WW41).
3. [Feature] SPR D0-Stepping \ MCC - m_87_806f3_8d000520 ; SPR E Stepping:
  m_87_806f7_ab0000c0; SPR HBM A-Steppping: m_10_806f1_800003c0;
Sorry, I checked the wrong files : (

It is weird if the system can't go with QYPF but the microcode isn't removed from the BIOS, unless it is not reported. For now the F06 still not able to boot up the QYPF.
 

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I is weird if the system can't go with QYPF but the microcode isn't removed from the BIOS, unless it is not reported. For now the F06 still not able to boot up the QYPF.
QYFP is something different, it works on ASUS W790 motherboards without the anti freeze tweak. maybe a hint.