ES Xeon Discussion

[RolloZ170]

Interesting and good catch! I wonder if they are just using a stock image that has Q2SR...

the sellers have almost no clue. they get the ES from wholesellers.

 

[osmarks]

It's been annoying to source the parts, but I finally have everything for my build (Q30H/MS03-CE0, since I couldn't get a Q2SR or Q2SP for whatever reason). It should be ready in a few hours unless something goes terribly wrong.

@RolloZ170 Can you send me the patched BIOS for it?

 

[RolloZ170]

It's been annoying to source the parts, but I finally have everything for my build (Q30H/MS03-CE0, since I couldn't get a Q2SR or Q2SP for whatever reason). It should be ready in a few hours unless something goes terribly wrong.
@RolloZ170 Can you send me the patched BIOS for it?

PM you.

 

[osmarks]

PM you.

Thanks!

I have it "working" now, though the bracket for my NIC is taped on because I am too lazy to get my 3D printer to do the tricky parts correctly and I can't do the cabling properly yet because the CPU power connectors are in inconvenient places and I need to get some extension cables.

 

[Ollie499]

Hello everyone, I have ASUS W790 SAGE and QYFU, is there any chance of possible upgrade for EMR-RP with BIOS modifications or this is just a unreal dream?

 

[RolloZ170]

Hello everyone, I have ASUS W790 SAGE and QYFU, is there any chance of possible upgrade for EMR-RP with BIOS modifications or this is just a unreal dream?

unreal dream !
even a retail SPR-SP does not work.
the BIOS is not aware of EMR because there is no EMR Xeon W.
e.g. to run a Xeon W9-3595X is no BIOS update required.
3495X stepping E5 cpuid 806F8
3595X stepping E5 cpuid 806F8

 

[Ollie499]

unreal dream !
even a retail SPR-SP does not work.
the BIOS is not aware of EMR because there is no EMR Xeon W.
e.g. to run a Xeon W9-3595X is no BIOS update required.
3495X stepping E5 cpuid 806F8
3595X stepping E5 cpuid 806F8

Thanks for answer! I will know.. And another question - are there any chance to boost clocks of cpu over based 2900mhz for all cores?

 

[RolloZ170]

And another question - are there any chance to boost clocks of cpu over based 2900mhz for all cores?

QYFU no. if HWinfo shows x29 all cores nonAVX this is fused max. only unlocked cpu can expceed this.

 

[Ollie499]

QYFU no. if HWinfo shows x29 all cores nonAVX this is fused max. only unlocked cpu can expceed this.

Are there any unlocked ES CPU for ASUS W790?

 

[RolloZ170]

Are there any unlocked ES CPU for ASUS W790?

sure. rare D0 SPR-WS, the reason why SPR-SP D0 ES working.
QS are sometimes offered cheap.
with a QYFS and disabled half of the cores you can get 28x 3700mhz
or QYK8 28x 4Ghz.

SPR-WS ES2    D0 (QYQU)            56C/112T
SPR-WS ES2    D0 (QYQV)            36C/72T
SPR-WS ES2    D0 (QYQW)            12C/24T
Xeon W9-3495X    E2,E3 (Q0TU,Q19N,Q19R) 56C/112T
Xeon W9-3475X    E2,E3 (Q19M),Q19S) 36C/72T
Xeon W7-3465X    E2,E3 (Q19L),Q19T) 28C/56T
Xeon W5-3435X    E2,E3 (Q19H,(Q19W) 16C/32T


Xeon W7-2495X    R0 Q07X
Xeon W7-2495X    S2,S3 (Q283,Q1WR)

 

[frogelder]

while the BIOS may nearly the same, it grants not same compatibility because the CSE SPS is the instance which allows ES or not.
means not SPS 6.0.4.25 is blocking ES in any case, the BIOS engineer configures that with a click (spsMFit.exe)

Can SPS region be modified? I bought z13pe-d16 recently, which doesn't support E1~E3.

 

[RolloZ170]

I bought z13pe-d16 recently, which doesn't support E1~E3.

strange. E1 doesn't exists.
there is E0,E2
stepping E3 is EV-QS and must work in any case if it is a SPR-SP.

 

[frogelder]

strange. E1 doesn't exists.
there is E0,E2
stepping E3 is EV-QS and must work in any case if it is a SPR-SP.

I just misunderstood what these marks means. I meant steeping 1~3 in my last post.
qyfs and qygg don't post, they may be blocked by SPS. I wonder if this SPS region can be modified

 

[RolloZ170]

qyfs and qygg don't post, they may be blocked by SPS. I wonder if this SPS region can be modified

the microcode for SPR D0 (qyfs qygg) is missing in BIOS, nothing todo with SPS.
stepping D0 is step 3
step 1 (B0) and 2 (C0) are not supported by any BIOS except Test/Debug BIOS you wont get.

 

[frogelder]

the microcode for SPR D0 (qyfs qygg) is missing in BIOS, nothing todo with SPS.
stepping D0 is step 3
step 1 (B0) and 2 (C0) are not supported by any BIOS except Test/Debug BIOS you wont get.

microcodes added, from cpu806f1 to cpu806f3. I read step from cpu-z screenshot, qyfs is 3 and qygg is 1

 

[RolloZ170]

microcodes added, from cpu806f1 to cpu806f3

there is no support for step 0,1,2.

I read step from cpu-z screenshot, qyfs is 3 and qygg is 1

step 3 = D0
QYGG step 1 no way....

 

[frogelder]

This is cpu-z screenshot of qygg, run on early supermicro's motherboard.
Someone bought a OEM test board and tried to use this cpu. Without 806f1 microcode, system don't post. After inserting this microcode, system can display something but stuck at self check.

 

[Bubu]

Hello everyone,

I have a problem, does anyone have any ideas?

System:
MB: MS73-HB1
CPU: 2x XEON 8480 ES
BIOS: currently R19 (before the problem, R12)
BMC: version 13.06.16
VROC & TMP 2.0 module on MB
RAM: 512 GB | 16x 32GB SK-Hynix HMCG88MEBRA107N
VGA: 2x ASUS TUF RTX 5070TI OC 16G
HDD 1: VROC-RAID0 = 2x Samsung 990 4TB NVMe | MZ-V9P4T0BW
HDD 2: VROC-RAID0 = 3x Crucial T500 2TB NVMe | CT2000T500SSD8
HDD 3: 1x Crucial T500 2TB NVMe | CT2000T500SSD8
HDD 2+3: on PCIe expansion card EZDIY-FAB Quad M.2 PCIe 4.0 x16 4xPCIe NVMe M.2
PSU: 2x be quiet! Dark Power Pro 13 1600W

The system has been extremely stable since May 2025. Only the BMC started acting up after the firmware update to version 13.06.16. I performed this update in May 2025. After that, the Mega-RAC GUI was no longer usable; it would always "time out" after a few seconds and log me out. However, I had to ignore this due to lack of time, and IPMI worked perfectly.

MY PROBLEM:

To fix the BMC, I decided last week to flash the BIOS and the BMC to the latest versions.

I started by flashing the BIOS from R12 to R19. The flash process stalled at 61%, after which the motherboard booted without VGA. All attempts to fix this failed. I then desoldered the BIOS chip MX25L51245GMI-08G, reflashed it to version R19 using a programmer, and resoldered it. Now VGA is working, but the system boots (BMC/Memory) but then gets stuck at "Chipset Initialize," even overnight. Currently, I only have the two CPUs and all the RAM installed on the motherboard.

BMC is usable via IPMI. I'd like to flash the older versions R11 or R12 for testing, but I don't have them anymore, and the Gigabyte website only offers the last three versions, R17-R19.

Does anyone have any idea what might be wrong? Should I also desolder the BMC chip MT25QL512ABB8ESF-0SIT and reflash it with the latest version 13.06.18?

Does anyone happen to have BIOS version R11 and/or R12 for the MS73-HB1?

Best regards.

 

[RolloZ170]

This is cpu-z screenshot of qygg, run on early supermicro's motherboard.
Someone bought a OEM test board and tried to use this cpu.

i know that, but the supermicros with test/debug BIOS (full of bugs, lack features) stuck there.
you don't want to use step 1 cpu. don't buy, there are many other better e.g. step 3.
no way on retail motherboards with official BIOSs.

 

[RolloZ170]

Now VGA is working, but the system boots (BMC/Memory) but then gets stuck at "Chipset Initialize," even overnight.

no SPR-SP D0 ES support with R17 and later. stop at chipset init.