ES Xeon Discussion

[rexggg]

Xeon Max HBM models do not have E steppings but A/B
stepping U0 is SPR-EE
Q22Q 806F5 platform 10 should be stepping B1.

Could you please send me the oldest BIOS for the Gigabyte MS03-CE0? I'd like to check what it contains. Also, I'm curious - Can I add microcode by myself to run these CPUs on Gig's motherboard?

 

[rexggg]

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This is cpu-z screenshot of qygg, run on early supermicro's motherboard.
Someone bought a OEM test board and tried to use this cpu. Without 806f1 microcode, system don't post. After inserting this microcode, system can display something but stuck at self check.

I have the backup files of the BIOS for these super early versions of the Supermicro motherboards. If you need their microcode, please message me and I will send the files to you.

Here are their screenshots. They even date back to 2021.

 

[RolloZ170]

Could you please send me the oldest BIOS for the Gigabyte MS03-CE0?

first is F01 but i don't have. i have F09 and there is the RelNotes from.

Also, I'm curious - Can I add microcode by myself to run these CPUs on Gig's motherboard?

if it would that easy those cpu's will run on every motherboard except supermicro(RoT BIOS can't be modified)
you need old Intel RC/MRC coded BIOS.

 

[RolloZ170]

I have the backup files of the BIOS for these super early versions of the Supermicro motherboards. If you need their microcode, please message me and I will send the files to you.

i have it all and tried all. i have BIOS for supermicro x13sei but you can't flash it on RoT enabled boards.

 

[rexggg]

first is F01 but i don't have. i have F09 and there is the RelNotes from.

if it would that easy those cpu's will run on every motherboard except supermicro(RoT BIOS can't be modified)
you need old Intel RC/MRC coded BIOS.

i have it all and tried all. i have BIOS for supermicro x13sei but you can't flash it on RoT enabled boards.

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Yes, because their CPLDs are different. I have tested it on the Supermicro X13SEW. However, placing the new version of the CPLD, BMC, and BIOS on the version 1.0 motherboard does not work properly. I suspect that Supermicro has made some changes to the hardware.

 

[RolloZ170]

Yes, because their CPLDs are different. I have tested it on the Supermicro X13SEW

and debug motherboard have Debug cert enabled and accept only BIOS with that signature.
STDsp.bin = sp = Standard BIOS, signed production
STDsd.bin = Standard BIOS, signed debug
TESsd.bin = TEST BIOS, signed debug
CPLD FW needs to changed often, e.g. to run SPR HBM only (no RAM)

 

[楚茕茕]

Merry Christmas, everyone. I've been feeling quite frustrated lately because I mistakenly bought a CPU that won't boot. I had faith in my motherboard, which has the 806f1 microcode (the C741 southbridge is also an es（qykv） from China, with a es early BIOS), as it can directly boot D0 stepping CPUs. But despite trying every method, I still can't get this Xeon Max A0 ES to boot. Perhaps I need some technical support. If I could get it to work, it would make a fantastic toy—112 cores and 128GB of HBM2 are quite impressive (even though it likely has many bugs).I am machine-translated, so please ignore my awkward language.

 

[RolloZ170]

I had faith in my motherboard, which has the 806f1 microcode (the C741 southbridge is also an es（qykv） from China, with a es early BIOS), as it can directly boot D0 stepping CPUs. But despite trying every method, I still can't get this Xeon Max A0 ES to boot.

does this motherboard support SPR HBM at all ? HBM needs an additional voltage to the socket some mobo not have,
and the CPLD FW needs to be prepared for HBM models.

 

[楚茕茕]

The motherboard capable of using the Xeon Max ES with a0 stepping (PCH QX30) remains the only one available even after three years. Upon examining the microcode between them, no differences were found. As for the RC version, it's challenging to locate earlier ones (attempting to use a BIOS from 2021 provided by others also proved unsuccessful). Is there still hope to continue tinkering to get this 9480max up and running? my motherboard pch is qykv（c741 es）

 

[楚茕茕]

does this motherboard support SPR HBM at all ? HBM needs an additional voltage to the socket some mobo not have,
and the CPLD FW needs to be prepared for HBM models.

You might be right. Though my socket does support HBM, the CPLD might be preventing it from working. Since the BMC on this motherboard is broken, extracting the firmware is very difficult. It might be time to consider returning it.

 

[rexggg]

Merry Christmas, everyone. I've been feeling quite frustrated lately because I mistakenly bought a CPU that won't boot. I had faith in my motherboard, which has the 806f1 microcode (the C741 southbridge is also an es（qykv） from China, with a es early BIOS), as it can directly boot D0 stepping CPUs. But despite trying every method, I still can't get this Xeon Max A0 ES to boot. Perhaps I need some technical support. If I could get it to work, it would make a fantastic toy—112 cores and 128GB of HBM2 are quite impressive (even though it likely has many bugs).I am machine-translated, so please ignore my awkward language.

What is the letter on the top of cpu?

 

[楚茕茕]

What is the letter on the top of cpu?

QYPF

 

[楚茕茕]

I have the backup files of the BIOS for these super early versions of the Supermicro motherboards. If you need their microcode, please message me and I will send the files to you.

Here are their screenshots. They even date back to 2021.

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[frogelder]

I have the backup files of the BIOS for these super early versions of the Supermicro motherboards. If you need their microcode, please message me and I will send the files to you.

Here are their screenshots. They even date back to 2021.

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Thanks for your reply. It's not only problem from microcode. If other parts of bios like SPS doesn't support correspond CPU it still won't work. May I ask what model of motherboard you saved these bios from? Same model (maybe test version only) with your bios
should work.

 

[rexggg]

Thanks for your reply. It's not only problem from microcode. If other parts of bios like SPS doesn't support correspond CPU it still won't work. May I ask what model of motherboard you saved these bios from? Same model (maybe test version only) with your bios
should work.

Super micro x13sew x13set both version 1.0

 

[rexggg]

not avialable to us(and it is too late, Dxx and Txx BIOS is only avail. before launch of processor series)
edit/update:

MS03-CE0 BIOS Release Notes
F=Final, R=refresh(EMR support)
D=debug
E=Eval.

F02
1. [Feature] Modify version name.
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D18
1. [Feature] Update RC 86D.16 (EagleStream BKC 2022 WW35).
2. [Feature] SPR D0-Stepping \ MCC - m_87_806f3_8d000510 ; SPR E Stepping: m_87_806f7_ab000060; SPR HBM B-Steppping: m_10_806f8_ac000060; SPR Production D0 Step: m_87_806f3_0d0004b1 ; SPR Production E Step: m_87_806f7_2b000041 ;
3. [Feature] Update VROC driver to v8.0.0.1336.
4. [Feature] SPR HBM A stepping is no longer supported from this BIOS version.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
D17
1. [Feature] Update RC 85.D15 (EagleStream BKC 2022_WW33).
2. [Feature] SPR D0-Stepping \ MCC - m_87_806f3_8d000510 ; SPR E Stepping: m_87_806f8_ab000040; SPR HBM A-Steppping: m_10_806f1_800003c0; SPR HBM B Steppping: m_10_806f8_ac000040; SPR Production D0-Step: m_87_806f3_0d0004b1 ; SPR Production E Step: m_87_806f8_2b000021 ;
3. [Feature] Update SPS to SPS_E5_06.00.03.176.0
4. [Feature] Update BIOS ACM / SINIT ACM Binaries to Debug_NT,v1.0.E / Debug_NT,v1.0.E.

no, QYGG runs on normal X13/C741 but need early Test/Debug BIOS.

If I get this d bios is it possible to flash into normal version of ms03-ce0??

 

[RolloZ170]

If I get this d bios is it possible to flash into normal version of ms03-ce0??

unknown, possibly it is rejected by BMC flash function. then you need SPI programmer.

If I get this d bios is it possible to flash into normal version of ms03-ce0??

we have flashed BIOS T01 on a MS73-HB1, so this should work.

 

[Aclesc]

unknown, possibly it is rejected by BMC flash function. then you need SPI programmer.


we have flashed BIOS T01 on a MS73-HB1, so this should work.

it is possible to enable the hidden options in the BIOS of the ms03-ce0 motherboard, such as enabling the base frequency options

 

[RolloZ170]

it is possible to enable the hidden options in the BIOS of the ms03-ce0 motherboard, such as enabling the base frequency options

hold right ctrl + right shift, then F2 (to toggle between visible/hide options)

 

[acesea]

the system boots (BMC/Memory) but then gets stuck at "Chipset Initialize," even overnight.

Were you able to successfully flash an older bios onto your board through the BMC webpage and resolve your stuck at "Chipset Initialize" issue?

I am experiencing the same issue. Bought a new board that came with R18. Using ES cpu the board gets stuck at "Chipset Initialize ..." screen. Cannot find older bios versions.

Does anyone know how to successfully downgrade Gigabyte MS33/MS03 boards and flash older bios using the BMCWEbGUI maintenance website ?