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frogelder

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while the BIOS may nearly the same, it grants not same compatibility because the CSE SPS is the instance which allows ES or not.
means not SPS 6.0.4.25 is blocking ES in any case, the BIOS engineer configures that with a click (spsMFit.exe)
Can SPS region be modified? I bought z13pe-d16 recently, which doesn't support E1~E3.
 

frogelder

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strange. E1 doesn't exists.
there is E0,E2
stepping E3 is EV-QS and must work in any case if it is a SPR-SP.
I just misunderstood what these marks means. I meant steeping 1~3 in my last post.
qyfs and qygg don't post, they may be blocked by SPS. I wonder if this SPS region can be modified
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qyfs and qygg don't post, they may be blocked by SPS. I wonder if this SPS region can be modified
the microcode for SPR D0 (qyfs qygg) is missing in BIOS, nothing todo with SPS.
stepping D0 is step 3
step 1 (B0) and 2 (C0) are not supported by any BIOS except Test/Debug BIOS you wont get.
 

frogelder

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the microcode for SPR D0 (qyfs qygg) is missing in BIOS, nothing todo with SPS.
stepping D0 is step 3
step 1 (B0) and 2 (C0) are not supported by any BIOS except Test/Debug BIOS you wont get.
microcodes added, from cpu806f1 to cpu806f3. I read step from cpu-z screenshot, qyfs is 3 and qygg is 1
 

frogelder

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This is cpu-z screenshot of qygg, run on early supermicro's motherboard.
Someone bought a OEM test board and tried to use this cpu. Without 806f1 microcode, system don't post. After inserting this microcode, system can display something but stuck at self check.
 

Bubu

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Hello everyone,

I have a problem, does anyone have any ideas?

System:
MB: MS73-HB1
CPU: 2x XEON 8480 ES
BIOS: currently R19 (before the problem, R12)
BMC: version 13.06.16
VROC & TMP 2.0 module on MB
RAM: 512 GB | 16x 32GB SK-Hynix HMCG88MEBRA107N
VGA: 2x ASUS TUF RTX 5070TI OC 16G
HDD 1: VROC-RAID0 = 2x Samsung 990 4TB NVMe | MZ-V9P4T0BW
HDD 2: VROC-RAID0 = 3x Crucial T500 2TB NVMe | CT2000T500SSD8
HDD 3: 1x Crucial T500 2TB NVMe | CT2000T500SSD8
HDD 2+3: on PCIe expansion card EZDIY-FAB Quad M.2 PCIe 4.0 x16 4xPCIe NVMe M.2
PSU: 2x be quiet! Dark Power Pro 13 1600W

The system has been extremely stable since May 2025. Only the BMC started acting up after the firmware update to version 13.06.16. I performed this update in May 2025. After that, the Mega-RAC GUI was no longer usable; it would always "time out" after a few seconds and log me out. However, I had to ignore this due to lack of time, and IPMI worked perfectly.

MY PROBLEM:

To fix the BMC, I decided last week to flash the BIOS and the BMC to the latest versions.

I started by flashing the BIOS from R12 to R19. The flash process stalled at 61%, after which the motherboard booted without VGA. All attempts to fix this failed. I then desoldered the BIOS chip MX25L51245GMI-08G, reflashed it to version R19 using a programmer, and resoldered it. Now VGA is working, but the system boots (BMC/Memory) but then gets stuck at "Chipset Initialize," even overnight. Currently, I only have the two CPUs and all the RAM installed on the motherboard.

BMC is usable via IPMI. I'd like to flash the older versions R11 or R12 for testing, but I don't have them anymore, and the Gigabyte website only offers the last three versions, R17-R19.

Does anyone have any idea what might be wrong? Should I also desolder the BMC chip MT25QL512ABB8ESF-0SIT and reflash it with the latest version 13.06.18?

Does anyone happen to have BIOS version R11 and/or R12 for the MS73-HB1?

Best regards.SYS01.jpg
 
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RolloZ170

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This is cpu-z screenshot of qygg, run on early supermicro's motherboard.
Someone bought a OEM test board and tried to use this cpu.
i know that, but the supermicros with test/debug BIOS (full of bugs, lack features) stuck there.
you don't want to use step 1 cpu. don't buy, there are many other better e.g. step 3.
no way on retail motherboards with official BIOSs.
 

justinjja1

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Hello everyone,

I have a problem, does anyone have any ideas?

System:
MB: MS73-HB1
CPU: 2x XEON 8480 ES
BIOS: currently R19 (before the problem, R12)
BMC: version 13.06.16
VROC & TMP 2.0 module on MB
RAM: 512 GB | 16x 32GB SK-Hynix HMCG88MEBRA107N
VGA: 2x ASUS TUF RTX 5070TI OC 16G
HDD 1: VROC-RAID0 = 2x Samsung 990 4TB NVMe | MZ-V9P4T0BW
HDD 2: VROC-RAID0 = 3x Crucial T500 2TB NVMe | CT2000T500SSD8
HDD 3: 1x Crucial T500 2TB NVMe | CT2000T500SSD8
HDD 2+3: on PCIe expansion card EZDIY-FAB Quad M.2 PCIe 4.0 x16 4xPCIe NVMe M.2
PSU: 2x be quiet! Dark Power Pro 13 1600W

The system has been extremely stable since May 2025. Only the BMC started acting up after the firmware update to version 13.06.16. I performed this update in May 2025. After that, the Mega-RAC GUI was no longer usable; it would always "time out" after a few seconds and log me out. However, I had to ignore this due to lack of time, and IPMI worked perfectly.

MY PROBLEM:

To fix the BMC, I decided last week to flash the BIOS and the BMC to the latest versions.

I started by flashing the BIOS from R12 to R19. The flash process stalled at 61%, after which the motherboard booted without VGA. All attempts to fix this failed. I then desoldered the BIOS chip MX25L51245GMI-08G, reflashed it to version R19 using a programmer, and resoldered it. Now VGA is working, but the system boots (BMC/Memory) but then gets stuck at "Chipset Initialize," even overnight. Currently, I only have the two CPUs and all the RAM installed on the motherboard.

BMC is usable via IPMI. I'd like to flash the older versions R11 or R12 for testing, but I don't have them anymore, and the Gigabyte website only offers the last three versions, R17-R19.

Does anyone have any idea what might be wrong? Should I also desolder the BMC chip MT25QL512ABB8ESF-0SIT and reflash it with the latest version 13.06.18?

Does anyone happen to have BIOS version R11 and/or R12 for the MS73-HB1?

Best regards.
Did you find the older versions of BIOS/BMC, I'm in a similar situation.
Tried upgrading to fix something and now I can't post, stuck at "chipset initialize"
 

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Recently, I have come across more ES's Xeon Max CPUs. They should be of the same stepping as QYGG. QYPF, QYGJ, QYFG - do any of you know their detailed information?
 

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Recently, I have come across more ES's Xeon Max CPUs. They should be of the same stepping as QYGG. QYPF, QYGJ, QYFG - do any of you know their detailed information?
avoid them
stepping A0 (step 1, 806F1 platform 10)
runs on X13SET with test Debug BIOS, no support on actual BIOSes.
 

rexggg

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avoid them
stepping A0 (step 1, 806F1 platform 10)
runs on X13SET with test Debug BIOS, no support on actual BIOSes.
for ms03-ce0 are their any bios which can run this cpu?I just wanted to play with them. In fact, I don't need to use these CPUs for any purpose.
 

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for ms03-ce0 are their any bios which can run this cpu?
not avialable to us(and it is too late, Dxx and Txx BIOS is only avail. before launch of processor series)
edit/update:
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MS03-CE0 BIOS Release Notes
F=Final, R=refresh(EMR support)
D=debug
E=Eval.

F02
1. [Feature] Modify version name.
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D18
1. [Feature] Update RC 86D.16 (EagleStream BKC 2022 WW35).
2. [Feature] SPR D0-Stepping \ MCC - m_87_806f3_8d000510 ; SPR E Stepping: m_87_806f7_ab000060; SPR HBM B-Steppping: m_10_806f8_ac000060; SPR Production D0 Step: m_87_806f3_0d0004b1 ; SPR Production E Step: m_87_806f7_2b000041 ;
3. [Feature] Update VROC driver to v8.0.0.1336.
4. [Feature] SPR HBM A stepping is no longer supported from this BIOS version.
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D17 
1. [Feature] Update RC 85.D15 (EagleStream BKC 2022_WW33).
2. [Feature] SPR D0-Stepping \ MCC - m_87_806f3_8d000510 ; SPR E Stepping: m_87_806f8_ab000040; SPR HBM A-Steppping: m_10_806f1_800003c0; SPR HBM B Steppping: m_10_806f8_ac000040; SPR Production D0-Step: m_87_806f3_0d0004b1 ; SPR Production E Step: m_87_806f8_2b000021 ;
3. [Feature] Update SPS to SPS_E5_06.00.03.176.0
4. [Feature] Update BIOS ACM / SINIT ACM Binaries to Debug_NT,v1.0.E / Debug_NT,v1.0.E.
They may require es chipset.
no, QYGG runs on normal X13/C741 but need early Test/Debug BIOS.
 
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RolloZ170

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for ms03-ce0 are their any bios which can run this cpu?I just wanted to play with them. In fact, I don't need to use these CPUs for any purpose.
i understand your intention, looking at the DDR5 RDIMM prices it would be tempting to run a SPR HBM without RAM if 64GB is enough for the workload.