ES Xeon Discussion

[Nima0908]

Isnt intel boot guard the thing that keeps us from using a modified bios and not bios guard in the first place?

 

[RolloZ170]

Isnt intel boot guard the thing that keeps us from using a modified bios and not bios guard in the first place?

no BIOS Guard reflashes modified parts if possible or stops Boot.
Boot Guard is used with TXT, but TXT executes startup ACM which erases memory to protect from RAM resident malware,
this is disabled if the Platform supports S3 sleep.

 

[Nima0908]

Ah, ok, thanks

 

[RolloZ170]

Ah, ok, thanks

and of course if there is a way and we did it, the motherboards rise in price. there aren't many of them anyway.

 

[niki163540]

Hey guys.
Just got an MS73-HB1 motherboard and two Q30G CPUs. Which BIOS should I flash, and how can I optimize the BIOS settings?
Thanks in advance!

 

[RolloZ170]

Just got an MS73-HB1 motherboard and two Q30G CPUs. Which BIOS should I flash,

PM you.

 

[Micro]

gigabyte only at C741 motherboards, gigabyte W790 do not support SPR-SP D0 ES like QYFS.
(but gigabyte BIOS is moddable)

I haven't modded a bios since 2011 Xeons, so I am curious.
Is this by adding the correct microcode for the CPU or is there more involved ?

 

[RolloZ170]

Is this by adding the correct microcode for the CPU or is there more involved ?

yes add the microcode is required, and disable ACM execution in _FIT_ (ASUS SAGE/ACE BIOS do not use startup ACM)
finaly you have to correct the checksum (footer of RBU file)

 

[osmarks]

Has anyone heard of Q2JH? A seller says it's an "8592 ES" and that "Q2SR has a base clock speed of 1.7 GHz; Q2JH has a base clock speed of 2.0 GHz".

 

[RolloZ170]

Has anyone heard of Q2JH? A seller says it's an "8592 ES" and that "Q2SR has a base clock speed of 1.7 GHz; Q2JH has a base clock speed of 2.0 GHz".

all listing at ebay say Q2JH but show Q2SR 1.7Ghz.
2.0 Ghz is not that improvement, in IDLE processors should park cores (EIST) and under load at all core turbo clock.
if you buy it over ebay there is no risk.

 

[osmarks]

all listing at ebay say Q2JH but show Q2SR 1.7Ghz.

There are no longer listings on the UK eBay site for individual EMR ES CPUs, so I tried directly messaging the sellers who were offering them bundled with a motherboard in case they could do something. One said they didn't have any left and one said they had Q2JH available. I could use the US site I guess.

2.0 Ghz is not that improvement, in IDLE processors should park cores (EIST) and under load at all core turbo clock.

Surely the different base clock numbers must mean something, or they wouldn't quote a base clock. But I'm concerned with whether there are important differences other than that, if these are known about at all.

 

[RolloZ170]

But I'm concerned with whether there are important differences other than that, if these are known about at all.

Q2JH is new to me but price wise not attractive.
Q2JH should be cheaper to compete with Q2SR/Q2SP.
but ebay prices are doubled comparted to goofish/taobao.

 

[Civiloid]

Surely the different base clock numbers must mean something, or they wouldn't quote a base clock. But I'm concerned with whether there are important differences other than that, if these are known about at all.

There were rumours that late chips were basically PVT stage - they might have different amount of accelerators (QAT, DLB and other stuff), different turbo config and so on. But difference shouldn't be that much.

 

[RolloZ170]

intel decides sometimes late how much core and other stuff is in the final SKUs.
remember ivy-bridge sp. the ES have less cores than prod.units.

 

[RolloZ170]

There were rumours that late chips were basically PVT stage

all have fun to blaim intel for they're alleged 12 steppings to build sapphire rapids which is not true.
( you have to separate the physical chops(MCC,XCC) and SPR-HBM )
start 806F0(A0), final 806F3 (D0) here intel decided to rebuild silicon, shrink die sizes. E0,E2,E3,E5

now we have Emerald Rapids:
?? cpuid C06F0 << anyone seen ES with that stepping ???
A0 cpuid C06F1
A1 cpuid C06F2 final

 

[stridervvv]

Hi everyone. I have a Gigabyte MS73-HB1 motherboard and 2x Intel Xeon Platinum 8480 (ES QYFS) processors. Did I understand correctly that this combination works on all BIOS versions without modifications? I want to purchase Samsung rdmimm PC5 64GB RAM. Will it work with my motherboard? If I were to acquire 2x Intel Xeon Platinum 8592 (ES Q2SR), would they work with the motherboard and what potential issues might arise?

 

[RolloZ170]

I have a Gigabyte MS73-HB1 motherboard and 2x Intel Xeon Platinum 8480 (ES QYFS) processors. Did I understand correctly that this combination works on all BIOS versions without modifications?

yes (so far)

I want to purchase Samsung rdmimm PC5 64GB RAM. Will it work with my motherboard?

yes.

f I were to acquire 2x Intel Xeon Platinum 8592 (ES Q2SR), would they work with the motherboard and what potential issues might arise?

EMR-SP A0 (Q2SR) need modified BIOS, PM me if you have EMR ES at home.

 

[RolloZ170]

I want to purchase Samsung rdmimm PC5 64GB RAM. Will it work with my motherboard?

do not buy very very old Samsung DDR5 RDIMM, ask before because there is an issue with early DRAM chips.

 

[StevenJoeZhang]

AsRock Rack SPC621D8
YES, Intel SPS blocks ES, all microcodes are still there
P1621D81.20 - CSE SPS: 04.04.04.053 ES
P1621D81.23 - CSE SPS: 04.04.04.053 ES
P1621D81.30 - CSE SPS: 04.04.04.202 no ES
P1621D81.40 - CSE SPS: 04.04.04.202 no ES

edit:
stepping D0 ES like QWAS,QWAQ,QWAN,QWAT,QWAP are still working
update:
by manualy update ME i got ES working again on X13SRA W790 board.
just keep the data partition. should work with Intel SPS too.

Hi,
I have an AsRock Rack SPC621D8U-2T motherboard and a QWAT CPU, but the system won't boot (there is no video output, and the BMC cannot detect any CPU or memory). This is the Firmware Information shown in the BMC:

• BMC Firmware Version: 0.02.01
• BIOS Firmware Version: L1.01J
• SPS Firmware Version: 4.4.4.202
• Microcode Version: 0d00037b

I found this post, and it appears that SPS version 4.4.4.202 on the SPC621D8 should support QWAT. Therefore, I would like to know how I should further troubleshoot this issue. I am considering downgrading the BIOS, but I'm worried about encountering other potential problems.
Thank you!

 

[RolloZ170]

I have an AsRock Rack SPC621D8U-2T motherboard and a QWAT CPU, but the system won't boot

knwon working motherboard and CPU ?

I am considering downgrading the BIOS, but I'm worried about encountering other potential problems.

what should happen other than it works ? you can update if not work and do further throubleshooting.

and the BMC cannot detect any CPU or memory)

this is done by BIOS POST, no POST = no data