That's no problem. You can re-enable and drive it after Nvidia GPU driver installed.
ES Xeon Discussion
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ASPEED first thought, then extract driver to disk and manualy install driver.
but it is easier to use @MillionMiles way
devmgmt.msc
the problem is the NVidia driver(incl.in the win11 24h2 media) takes the ASPEED VGA as a welcome target device.
Perhaps you have forgotten what I said: After installing the Windows, install the Aspeed driver first, and then insert your Nvidia GPU.
Thank you all. I was able to install Windows 11. I had to disable ASPEED from the device manager while Nvidia card is detached, so it doesn't interfere with Nvidia graphics card.
Hello Folks,
I read a little bit into this thread but it is to long and I can't find the answer to my questions so ask here:
I want to build a server for llm and virtualization purposes. I saw that there are ES and QS CPUs of Sapphire Rapids sold cheaper. Also that Sapphire Rapids have special instruction sets like AMX to speed up execution of LLMs. With which boards do ES or QS CPUs work? Do you have any penalties regarding functionality besides a lower speed?
Kind regards
I read a little bit into this thread but it is to long and I can't find the answer to my questions so ask here:
I want to build a server for llm and virtualization purposes. I saw that there are ES and QS CPUs of Sapphire Rapids sold cheaper. Also that Sapphire Rapids have special instruction sets like AMX to speed up execution of LLMs. With which boards do ES or QS CPUs work? Do you have any penalties regarding functionality besides a lower speed?
Kind regards
QS work on all motherboards, QS is prod.stepping/cpuid just ES bit is set.
gigabyte MS03/33/73(C741) run SPR ES out of the Box with latest BIOS(EMR ES with BIOS mod)
avoid supermicro if you want to run ES.
ASRock do not support SPR ES, BIOS mod possible.
ASUS unknown to me (never had one at home)
SPR ES do not have lower speed.
SPR D0 ES get no microcode updates, no known bugs solved.
Thank you for your fast response. I read a little bit through the thread and saw that you actively help all member, also thank you for your support and expertice.
After reading a little bit more through the threads:
So this means on a Gigabyte MS73-HB1 Mainboard i can run 2x Intel Xeon Silver 5411N QS CPUs without modifications?
On the ES CPUs is there some kind of gurantee that features like AMX work or are the active feature set depending on the sold ES CPU?
I am asking this because I see offerings like 2*Intel Xeon Platinum 8592+ ES Q2SR+ with a Gigabyte MS73-HB1 Mainboard or 8480ES with QYFR.
Kind regards
sure. QS are meant for driver programmers, valtidation purposes, or Magazine-People(tester)
normaly they have to return the QS after usage, but not in any case.
no gurantee. better chance with 5th gen. ES.
QYFR is stepping D0, early ES. Q2SR is 5th gen. EMR A0 ES (prod. stepping is A1)
many user here still run Q2SR(EMR A0 ES) for llm, but all EMR A0 need a little help (BIOS tweak)
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For those who might be interested in using PMEM with SPR SE Xeons. I've got QYFS CPU working. Originally I wanted Q2SR, but I had several Series 300 pmem dimms, so I decided to give'em a try. System config:
QYFS CPU,
MS33-AR0 Gygabyte mb,
128 GB DRR5 (4x32GB), SK Hynix 32GB DDR5-4800 ECC RDIMM PC5-38400 HMCG84MEBRA1xxN
512 GB Pmem, (4x128GB), Intel NMC2XAD128GQS
PMEM firmware
Firmware version: 03.01.00.2671
Firmware API version: 03.05
Firmware Active API version: 03.05
MB had R11 BIOS when I received it. It didn't boot with pmem - stuck at memory initialization with B7 POST code. After multiple tries it worked with F01 BIOS from here. I had to manually provision pmem though. I still have error displayed when accessing BIOS setup screen or Total capacity in PMEM configuration.
Linux detects all 512GB as well as BIOS.
Provisioning:
Open Advanced tab in BIOS setup. Go to Intel(R) Optane(TM) Persistent Memory Configuration->Provisioning->Create goal config. Set Memory Mode [%] to 100.
Hit Create goal config. Save & Exit.
I tried to use ipmctl to do the same but it didn't work.
The system also booted with F10 BIOS version, but I didn't try if I can provision pmem with it. With F17 and R09-R11 it didn't boot. Stuck at B7 POST code, memory initialization.
Hope this might be useful.
QYFS CPU,
MS33-AR0 Gygabyte mb,
128 GB DRR5 (4x32GB), SK Hynix 32GB DDR5-4800 ECC RDIMM PC5-38400 HMCG84MEBRA1xxN
512 GB Pmem, (4x128GB), Intel NMC2XAD128GQS
PMEM firmware
Firmware version: 03.01.00.2671
Firmware API version: 03.05
Firmware Active API version: 03.05
MB had R11 BIOS when I received it. It didn't boot with pmem - stuck at memory initialization with B7 POST code. After multiple tries it worked with F01 BIOS from here. I had to manually provision pmem though. I still have error displayed when accessing BIOS setup screen or Total capacity in PMEM configuration.
Linux detects all 512GB as well as BIOS.
Provisioning:
Open Advanced tab in BIOS setup. Go to Intel(R) Optane(TM) Persistent Memory Configuration->Provisioning->Create goal config. Set Memory Mode [%] to 100.
Hit Create goal config. Save & Exit.
I tried to use ipmctl to do the same but it didn't work.
The system also booted with F10 BIOS version, but I didn't try if I can provision pmem with it. With F17 and R09-R11 it didn't boot. Stuck at B7 POST code, memory initialization.
Hope this might be useful.
I ordered 2x Q2SR, a Gigabyte MS73-HB1 mainboard and a 5411N Gold as backup. They should arrive end of next month. What kind of Bios tweaks are needed? Do you have a list or instruction set? Also is here a modded bios necessary?
Q2SR(and other EMR A0) POST takes 6/7 minutes but only in single socket config, dual socket does not POST.
you need old 'T' Test BIOS or mod. BIOS. there are two ways, quick and dirty just disable ACM module execution or swap the ACM with an compatible one. PM me is you have all parts at home.
If you are worry about the Ram temperature, you should try the Corsair Vengeance Airflow Memory Cooling Fans. There is a review of it on Phoronix.
Hi, I am needing some BIOS help!
I have a machine with x2 Q2SR + MS73-HB1 mobo, with BIOS T01 (assume the first test BIOS?). It actaully all boots fine, untill I install the drivers for my nvidia 5090 FE, the screen flickers black and never recovers, and it is impossible to get back into without without using safe mode.
Assuming (hoping!) this is a BIOS issue, could someone point me in the direction of a new modded BIOS?
I have a machine with x2 Q2SR + MS73-HB1 mobo, with BIOS T01 (assume the first test BIOS?). It actaully all boots fine, untill I install the drivers for my nvidia 5090 FE, the screen flickers black and never recovers, and it is impossible to get back into without without using safe mode.
Assuming (hoping!) this is a BIOS issue, could someone point me in the direction of a new modded BIOS?
not a BIOS issue.ASPEED issue.
open device manager while oob install phase, deactivate ASPEED, move on with driver install. after all enable ASPEED and install ASPEED driver.
not BIOS. PM you soon.
Yes, just reading back the thread now, something I should have done in the first instance.
Thank you for the response, I will give this a shot.
Is there a way to tell from the CPU markings itself whether a CPU is QS vs. Retail? If not, how does one tell using CPU-Z? Looking to buy some LGA 4677 CPUs, and stumbled upon this Chinese seller selling the 5411N for far below US prices. Most of the others in this price range are marked as QS using similar photos.
Intel Xeon Gold 5411N LGA-4677 1S Server CPU Processor 1.90GHz 24-Core 45MB 165W | eBay
1PCS; 5411N. We are founded in 20 10, is a professional purchasing B2B & B2C tool in electronic components field. During the warranty period, we can help them repair for free. We will reply you in 24 hours and give your a satified answer.
www.ebay.com
QS/ES = Intel Confidential
Retail = Intel Xeon Platinum (or similar, what it is)
CPU-Z
"0000" = ES
QS "...Platinum 8176 CPU @X.XX Ghz (ES)"
Retail Production = "...Platinum 8176 CPU @X.XX Ghz"