ES Xeon Discussion

[RolloZ170]

And what about Q415?This ok?

i don't know Q415

 

[KNJ_AI]

One question: when I ask sellers about the 5411N QS whether AMX is enabled and they send me a screenshot, they always tell me yes and send this image. Is it me not seeing the AMX, or is it them? Thanks

 

[RolloZ170]

One question: when I ask sellers about the 5411N QS whether AMX is enabled and they send me a screenshot, they always tell me yes and send me this image. Is it me not seeing the AMX, or is it them? Thanks

you can't see AMX with CPU-Z. i guess they think you mean AVX. chn cpu seller have (mostly) no clue about cpu.
a QS is identical to the porduction unit except the ES bit is set.
a quick look at intel 5411N shows not clear if AMX is supported or not, compared with the 6418H it is clearly shown.

 

[KNJ_AI]

According to the Advantech datasheet, it does support AMX
Intel® Xeon® Gold 5411N 1.9G 45M Processor advantech
CPU-WORLD
CPU-WORD SRMGY
CPU-WORLD Q27X

 

[Andrix]

This is Granite Rapids with the LGA7529 socket, isn't it? Which motherboard are you going to use?

 

[Andrix]

I suppose you don't expect compatibility issues, do you? Did the CPU seller suggest this motherboard?
I have been looking at this CPU today and scratched my head if it is not too much of a gamble.

 

[Techiedudeon]

Just a follow up, that ES 8592+ I setup as a firewall is working perfectly reliable, no issues and far better performance than my previous dell server with dual 8280s. So another ES success story

 

[RolloZ170]

Hello everyone, which ES or QS processor do you recommend for the Tyan S5652?

And what about Q415?This ok?

sorry, don't fit in Tyan S5652

 

[RolloZ170]

I suppose you don't expect compatibility issues, do you? Did the CPU seller suggest this motherboard?
I have been looking at this CPU today and scratched my head if it is not too much of a gamble.

LGA4710 GNR-SP A0/A2 work on Gigabyte MS04/MS34/MS74
so i expect same with LGA7529 MA34-CP0

edit: but like GNR-SP ES, GNR-AP ES have very low clocks compared to prod.unit and previious gens like EMR or SPR ES.

 

[RolloZ170]

I have been looking at this CPU today and scratched my head if it is not too much of a gamble.

I bought many (cheap) EMR A0 ES when they were still listed as "defective, not working properly"...
e.g. Q2T7 400 CNY. not working with std. BIOS but i found the trick.

 

[RolloZ170]

This is mine cpu!

View attachment 45146

mmh, two ES with same serial, rare and strange.

 

[KNJ_AI]

I like the 8454H QS a lot, but it’s too expensive for me. With 32 cores, manageable power and temperatures, and 4 units per core of QAT, DLB, DSA, and IAA, it’s impressive. However, the 5411N QS seems more reasonable for its price, and I can wait for a future update.

 

[RolloZ170]

I like the 8454H QS

and 4 units per core of QAT, ...

4 QAT units at all, not per core. they are virtualy chared.

 

[spongioblast]

I read for MC03-CE0 motherboard I need to modify the BIOS with "noACM" for 2QSR. Is there a guide how to do that or where might I be able to fetch an altered version? Thank you! A new BIOS just came out for this board Aug 22, 2025.

 

[RolloZ170]

I read for MC03-CE0 motherboard I need to modify the BIOS with "noACM" for 2QSR.

i can provide the BIOS R12 (PM me), you can wait 6/7 minutes for POST with stock BIOS but that is very annoying(don't work for dual socket config.)
latest BIOS R17 needs validation.

 

[9999pcielanes]

@RolloZ170 back at it I finally have funds to splash on a proper (dual?) ES setup. Do you happen to know if the Asus Z13PE-D16 supports ES Xeon Max? I'm thinking of the Asus because it's the only dual socket known to work properly with the production variants. Thanks for all your answers on this forum, you are a saint and an unlimited source of knowledge lol.

 

[RolloZ170]

Do you happen to know if the Asus Z13PE-D16 supports ES Xeon Max?

yes. there are rel.cheap QS. avoid early ES Xeon Max.

 

[9999pcielanes]

yes. there are rel.cheap QS. avoid early ES Xeon Max.

Sorry I somehow edited out the ES I have found, it's QYGG. Why are those to be avoided, huge quirks with the HBM memory?
And do you have any links for the cheap QS?

 

[RolloZ170]

Sorry I somehow edited out the ES I have found, it's QYGG. Why are those to be avoided, huge quirks with the HBM memory?

yes, the stepping in ignored in BIOS, you don't want to work with very old or prep production BIOS (full of bugs and vulnerabilities)

And do you have any links for the cheap QS?

had one at home for testing(borrowed by a STH user)
runs on my MS33-AR0, MS33-CPA_V10
they are sold for under $900 that time.

 

[9999pcielanes]

yes, the stepping in ignored in BIOS, you don't want to work with very old or prep production BIOS (full of bugs and vulnerabilities)

had one at home for testing(borrowed by a STH user)
runs on my MS33-AR0, MS33-CPA_V10
they are sold for under $900 that time.

Thanks for the info. waa that's a lot. The working 6462 ES I have found are way less than that. Do you know if some motherboards are less buggy than others on older BIOSes? I can see that they use the Z13PE-D16 a lot to test these CPUs, maybe it's not that bad overall. Others test with X13SEI/X13SET also.

They seem like fun chips, 64 or even 128GB of HBM2e paired with AMX would be great, the 500GB/s effective bandwidth helps with compile tasks as well. You can't even get it by populating all ($$$$) RAM channels...

Alternatively EMR could be valid still. About that, do you know the newest steppings that are still relatively cheap? So far my options are the Q10G we've discussed some time ago or the Q2SR, but maybe there is something newer I'm missing.