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AlexKaz

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There was a message from member at another forum, that SuperMicro X12DAI works nice with Xeon 8360Y ES ICX C0, bios 1.1b, cold version F1.00.09. But the board works only with CPU in the first CPU slot, and the system immediately shuting down with both CPU installed as if there is a short circuit somewhere.
 

heromode

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i have account since 2016, over the years, I've bought a lot of things through taobao and, most recently goofish, without any major problems.
It's not necessarily cheaper, but I only found the items there.
Do you still use ebay to search and buy from china? Can you share any other sources you use? I was under the impression one can find mobo/cpu cheaper on taobao/goofish etc..
 

RolloZ170

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Do you still use ebay to search and buy from china?
sure. some parts are not or not yet available at ebay. on big or high weight items shipping with a parcel forwarder like superbuy costs much money.
e.g. i shipped recently a parcel 48x48x34cm ( 2kg but volume weight 9,7kg ) with a PC case and some small parts. costs me 900 CNY cheapest way. chn ebay seller can ship cheaper but maybe transit takes longer time.
I was under the impression one can find mobo/cpu cheaper on taobao/goofish etc..
only ES CPU are cheaper. motherboards, CPU prod.units and QS not (pls add the extra costs to have them at home)
i buy those parts only at taobao/goofish if they are not available somewhere else.
another expample: i bought a refurb.dell motherboard from a ebay us seller, he don't ship to EU so i used shipito. the motherboard arrived defektive, the seller provided me a free shpping label (from shipito usa back to seller) so i have to ship the board from EU to shipito(usa CA) easy to understand that is not an option for a 40 bucks motherboard. you will have a similar situation with parts from china and use of a parcel forwarder like superbuy.
 
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capone.ephraim

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Hello, I'm deciding between QYFS and Q2SR. I would prefer the Q2SR, but I'm not sure if it runs in MS33-AR0 that I have. The motherboard has recent BIOS R11. Some sellers of Q2SR say it's "compatible" with gigabyte motherboards only. Do you know if I need a modified BIOS for Q2SR to run in MS33? Will older QYFS run with the recent BIOS?
 

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Q2SR, but I'm not sure if it runs in MS33-AR0 that I have. The motherboard has recent BIOS R11. Some sellers of Q2SR say it's "compatible" with gigabyte motherboards only. Do you know if I need a modified BIOS for Q2SR to run in MS33?
Q2SR: you have to wait 6/7 minutes to POST or use a mod. BIOS, PM me for BIOS.
Will older QYFS run with the recent BIOS?
yes.
 

Wasmachineman_NL

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Are there any noteworthy ES Broadwell Xeons for X99? I refuse to pay **** you money for a 6950X that gets curbstomped by a 7500F.
 

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Are there any noteworthy ES Broadwell Xeons for X99? I refuse to pay **** you money for a 6950X that gets curbstomped by a 7500F.
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QK3M 1650v4 ES2 (partly unlocked, ratio OC all core 4200 ) (80-100 CNY goofish)
QK3S 1660v4 ES2 (partly unlocked, ratio OC all core 4200 ) (160-404 CNY goofish)
work on gigabyte and asrock, ASUS RAMPAGE V EXTR.

B0
QHVJ 1660v4 ES1 (99 CNY goofish)
gigabyte,asrock
 

Wasmachineman_NL

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QK3M 1650v4 ES2 (partly unlocked, ratio OC all core 4200 ) (80-100 CNY goofish)
QK3S 1660v4 ES2 (partly unlocked, ratio OC all core 4200 ) (160-404 CNY goofish)
work on gigabyte and asrock, ASUS RAMPAGE V EXTR.

B0
QHVJ 1660v4 ES1 (99 CNY goofish)
gigabyte,asrock
So nothing noteworthy and I'm better off getting a 6900K or 6950X instead. Great. Thanks Intel /s
 

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i got same boards. this is first rev. with only skylake BIOS. the later rev. C2030(cerberus) supports Cascade Lake, maybe we can use the C2030 BIOS. mine has two different BIOS.
BIOS0:
50650,50651,50652,50654
BIOS1:
50650,50651,50652,50653,50654
 

sersmile

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Hello guys, looking for some help here. First please kindly forgive my stupidness.
I am using dual 8368es(QWAT). I have been getting MCE for a week now. The error log in Linux is like:
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Aug 10 05:26:41 astraTZ kernel: mce: [Hardware Error]: CPU 38: Machine Check: 0 Bank 26: 80000040020000b1
Aug 10 05:26:41 astraTZ kernel: mce: [Hardware Error]: TSC 29abee5a339 PPIN 5d4fa8cb73c77cc0
I asked Gemini what this means, Gemini told me that Bank26 is related to memory issue. I am not sure if Gemini is correct, but I do have some memory issues on this platform. Please forgive my ignorance here. The issue I came across is quite complex:
1. When I was first installing memory to the slots, I got distracted and accidentally broke one of the slot. Then I left that slot empty and populated every other slot.
2. After that, I was able to get 14 memory slots working. It was supposed to be 15 since only one slot is missing memory module. I used a tool called cockpit to inspected memory info and found out that 15 out of 16 slots is presented with memory, but the memory in one of the slots has an unknown size, which explains why my server only detects 14.
3. I was still unable to locate the real issue until then. But as I am getting MCE over the last week, two more of my memory modules can’t be detected. I am starting to suspect that the issue is with the CPU (since the OS is reporting MCE about the CPU at the same time)
Below is an image of my memory info captured by cockpit.
Also there is a separate incident that might be related to this. Due to my stupidness, I bent ONE of the socket pins of the socket which the problem CPU is installed (this happened before I install the whole system). I paid a guy to repair the problem socket for me, he used tools to bend the pin back, the angle of the pin is not exactly identical to its original state. But I think it seems fine since it’s “almost” perfect and definitely not touching any other pins in the socket. Could this one imperfect pin cause my problem?
Any help is appreciated :)
 

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sersmile

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I was still unable to locate the real issue until then. But as I am getting MCE over the last week, two more of my memory modules can’t be detected.
guys this is so weird. I rebooted my computer and now it detects 15 memory modules…
 

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guys this is so weird. I rebooted my computer and now it detects 15 memory modules…
some ecc errs can accumulate over time(threshold) and result in outmapping of that slot(until maintenence/replacement)
clear cmos.
early ES stepping B0/C0 are known to have memory channel loss over time(they do not come back), i hope this issue applies not to D0s.
 
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GadflyII

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I have never messed with ES Xeons before (only retail units professionally), and I foolishly and made a purchase off ebay.

I purchased two Xeon 8592+ ES "Q2SR+" and a Gigabyte MS73-HB1 motherboard. In reading this thread, it is clear that I should have done a bit more research before I clicked the buy button. Oh well, live and learn right? I guess I didn't think that some of the features or accelerators would be locked / or down graded to a lower level. I also didn't really understand the steppings, so I won't know exactly what stoppings I am going to get until they show up, as I am guessing that the "Q2SR+" means that they could be any stepping after the Q2SR, and that is not a stepping.

I don't care too much about most features, I am going to use this as a workstation for running and training some AI models (Not LLM's/image/Video creation etc.), for a new project. I went with these CPU's for the on die AMX, etc. accelerators, and I guess that is really all I want running on as many cores as possible, but the more features and accelerators I can unlock the better.

So, How boned am I here? I know... I'm a dumbass that click buy before doing my research. Is this salvageable with modded bios, etc; or do I need to go shopping again?
 
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